With the expectation that he won't answer....

[00Dawg]

can anyone tell me where Brad Locke is getting his bowl ticket sales numbers for our 2010 and 2011 seasons?
He tweeted that we sold 12,748 tickets out of 15k in 2010, and wrote an article saying we sold 86% of our allotment in 2011.
This is despite articles showing us selling everything with pre-sales in both cases, and ordering more.
The thought that our university was ordering tickets to cover players, staff, and key boosters occurred to me, but I don't think that would account for 2k+ tickets, and it would still seem crazy to order more tickets.

http://jacksonville.com/sports/2010-12-05/story/michigan-mississippi-state-picked-gator-bowl
http://nashvillecitypaper.com/conte...-does-not-expect-sellout-figures-be-satisfied

 

[00Dawg]

Correction. Marcello made the Gator Bowl tweet.

 

[CadaverDawg]

Did he correct it?

 

[00Dawg]

Sorry for the confusion. No, neither has corrected their info. Locke didn't respond to my comment and link on his TDJ article, and Marcello hasn't responded on his end, either.
The last time I checked Locke also hadn't responded to article-linking tweets from MedDawg about it

 

[Spidey.sixpack]

I would try taking it up with Marcello in an upcoming chat.

Usually Thursdays at 3pm.

 

[jcdawgman18]

Here's my guess: they found the number of tickets we sold the last two years and compared it to the number of tickets we were given this year. Thing is, 15,000 is a larger allotment than we have been given previously. So I'm betting that's where these odd numbers are coming from.

The last two years, I'm sure we wouldn't have had any issues selling that allotment. Hopefully the story remains the same this year.

 

[00Dawg]

I'm afraid that doesn't work out. The difference in tickets given is the bowls....the Gator has given us an initial allotment of 15k both times while the MCB gives 12k.
Per the articles, we sold out the 15k to the Gator in 2010 in pre-sales and ordered 2k more. We sold out the 12k from the MCB in pre-sales and requested another 2k.

Locke mentioned to MedDawg that he was looking at official "numbers", so my guess is they have annual reports from the university with line-items for tickets the university paid for, and are simply applying that to the original allotments.

 

[MedDawg]

And the MAIN point....

I'm afraid that doesn't work out. The difference in tickets given is the bowls....the Gator has given us an initial allotment of 15k both times while the MCB gives 12k.
Per the articles, we sold out the 15k to the Gator in 2010 in pre-sales and ordered 2k more. We sold out the 12k from the MCB in pre-sales and requested another 2k.

Locke mentioned to MedDawg that he was looking at official "numbers", so my guess is they have annual reports from the university with line-items for tickets the university paid for, and are simply applying that to the original allotments.

It was obvious that there were at least 30,000 MSU fans at both the Music City and Gator Bowls, and the bowls know that. We also set the Liberty Bowl attendance record in 2007 (you know UCF didn't contribute).

One of the articles I linked in my tweets to Locke (that I first saw linked on 247 board) had quotes from the MCB bowl people about how they were happy about how many hotel rooms the MSU people were buying. If the bowl knows a school's fans are are buying them from different places, the bowl doesn't care exactly where the tickets sales come from. It just looks better for us to the media if a school sells out its official allotment.

 

[RocketDawg]

I can't answer your question, but have a comment instead. I didn't realize until after I read the first article (maybe my memory is failing) that we were overlooked by the Outback in favor of an inferior Florida team that year. I remember that we were passed over the year we played Clemson in the Peach (2000?), but didn't recall that being the case in 2010. But it apparently was.

It was also interesting to read the article comments that were made before the game was played.

 

[RocketDawg]

It was obvious that there were at least 30,000 MSU fans at both the Music City and Gator Bowls, and the bowls know that. We also set the Liberty Bowl attendance record in 2007 (you know UCF didn't contribute).

One of the articles I linked in my tweets to Locke (that I first saw linked on 247 board) had quotes from the MCB bowl people about how they were happy about how many hotel rooms the MSU people were buying. If the bowl knows a school's fans are are buying them from different places, the bowl doesn't care exactly where the tickets sales come from. It just looks better for us to the media if a school sells out its official allotment.

Actually, there were quite a few of their fans there. And best I could tell, every one of them was given to rudeness and pushing. I've never seen a bunch like that. And they thought they'd beat us too ... and were they sorely disappointed!

 

[PBRME]

I can't answer your question, but have a comment instead. I didn't realize until after I read the first article (maybe my memory is failing) that we were overlooked by the Outback in favor of an inferior Florida team that year. I remember that we were passed over the year we played Clemson in the Peach (2000?), but didn't recall that being the case in 2010. But it apparently was.

It was also interesting to read the article comments that were made before the game was played.

Didn't Slive step in and make the Gator take us over 6-6 UT?

 

[RocketDawg]

You mean last year? Yeah, according to the Jacksonville article, we were in danger of going even lower than the Gator even though we deserved the Outback. Slive stepped in, and supposedly even attended our game for the entire time. I supposed he thought we'd been screwed enough. And it turned out well for him and the SEC.

 

[biguglyjoe]

It was quite a plethora of douchebaggery.