I think that’s exactly what they are doing. It’s a page out of the NASCAR playbook. Create drama because watching it isn’t much fun.
Wnba. Watching indiana and Clark today
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I think that’s exactly what they are doing. It’s a page out of the NASCAR playbook. Create drama because watching it isn’t much fun.
The only issue I can find with Cunningham is that she is the President and CEO of the itty bitty tïtty committee
NBA players do the same thing and media is there to film and photo them. Just adding to the prior comments about how its common in the NFL too.
I find it absurd, but its important to remember that it is not unique to the WNBA.
Sorry to disagree. I'm saying they most likely sck at football. And they sck at coaching. Andrew Tate would agree with me.
Im gonna go with football. Man Barry Sanders against women ? Lawrence Taylor ?It's quite fun to think about
I would argue that being bigger and stronger and faster, not necessarily more skilled, is the difference there, although I recognize that's somewhat splitting hairs.
I think basketball is just the sport that is most obviously different when you compare men and women's sports. If you watch men and women's tennis, golf, and soccer, they basically look like the same sport to me. Obviously different speed involved, but still looks basically the same. Men and women's basketball does not look the same at all. Hell, softball and baseball aren't even the same sport technically, but they look more similar to each other than men and women's basketball.
You don't have to have played the game to understand it, that is the basic first thing to get.
Some guys never knew anything about football other than what they did on each play and played in the NFL. You do know that there are women coaches in the NFL right now. Last year there were 15 Women coaches in the NFL.
Sure, they probably have some basic plays and the wishbone would probably blow their minds but football ain't rocket science, nor is it even important who wins in any sport including the NFL. Do you really care who won last year? I know I don't. It's entertainment.
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If I was the WNBA commissioner there would be a memo that of anyone touches Caitlan Clark it would be a $500 fine. If she falls after the touch another $500. If she has to miss a game you lose a games pay for every game she misses.
Jason Whitlock on Indiana & Clark.
Can I say this now that the NBA season is over and we're still a few weeks away from NFL training camps?
The Indiana Fever (6-7) are a hot mess. The new coach has taken 2 leaves, the top free agent (who the new coach brought with her) disappeared for "personal reasons."
The biggest asset in all of American professional sports (Caitlin Clark) is being mismanaged by a team and a league in over its heads. No one can write or talk honestly about this hot mess because it involves lesbian sexual politics, which are pervasive in women's sports.
The WNBA is in the process of blowing the Caitlin Clark gift. Clark is miserable and off her game. It's the most fascinating story in sports.
'As the WNBA Turns' is the best soap opera since Luke and Laura got married on General Hospital.
Can I say this now that the NBA season is over and we're still a few weeks away from NFL training camps?
The Indiana Fever (6-7) are a hot mess. The new coach has taken 2 leaves, the top free agent (who the new coach brought with her) disappeared for "personal reasons."
The biggest asset in all of American professional sports (Caitlin Clark) is being mismanaged by a team and a league in over its heads. No one can write or talk honestly about this hot mess because it involves lesbian sexual politics, which are pervasive in women's sports.
The WNBA is in the process of blowing the Caitlin Clark gift. Clark is miserable and off her game. It's the most fascinating story in sports.
'As the WNBA Turns' is the best soap opera since Luke and Laura got married on General Hospital.
He is right about all this, but he left out 'race', which is also involved unfortunately. That's a huge part of why it's a 3rd rail topic.
But with Whitlock's background, maybe he's tired of bringing up race. Which I would get.
The race claim continues to be lifted up and continues to be promptly beaten back down. Its like 2 years of this.
Are there people who dislike seeing a white woman be a major face of the WNBA? Sure, I bet there are. Does that mean Clark is widely hated, snubbed, and targeted on the court because she is white? Nope.
There have been a ton of white WNBA stars- MVPs, faces of franchises, etc. Heck, for multiple years now up until like 1 month ago, the only readily available signature shoe was a white girl's(Ionescu). The other signature shoe was...a white girl's(Stewie). All this should easily show that white women can be accepted and viewed as great in the league.
For all the love that Clark gets for her otherworldly play, stats show she is actually pretty human and hardly head and shoulders above everyone else.
With that said, it seems to consistently surprise people when Clark's actual stats are discussed.
- Her team is barely at .500 right now so she definitely isnt some 1 woman wrecking crew.
- she turns the ball over at an almost 25% clip.
- she is shooting 29.5% from deep. 29.5%. That is atrocious when 56% of your shots are from behind the arc. Heck, she is 1 for 23 from deep in her last 3 games.
- her FG% is under 40%.
- a 1.58 to 1 A/TO ratio is simply not good for someone that handles the ball as much as her. Her teammates are to blame for some of her turnovers, but still...that is an objectively bad A/TO for a ball dominant player who facilitates so much.
- she is 11th in PPG.
In reality, she is a dang solid player who has brought a ton of interest to the game, but it is largely through pushing controversial short form video clips. Its a bunch of content farm created junk.
No criticism of her- she seems to be a baller that takes her job seriously and is above the manufactured controversy.
You neglected to mention she's playing on a team that has been often the worst team and always among the worst in the WNBA for a decade before her arrival. One winning record in the last 12 seasons.
in the seven seasons before last year they went 58 and 174. They're basically .500 since her arrival and competitive with the best teams, which they never were before. It's obvious she's made a big difference.
It's possible she doesn't have much good around her and who the hell would have decent numbers with the **** she has to put up with on a constant basis?
Yep, she has helped the team improve. I certainly wasnt trying to imply otherwise.
Her stats though are extremely pedestrian, when compared to the short form highlight reels that flood every platform and also when compared to the flood of manufactured controversy clips of her being held or fouled.
She is continually held up as already being a generational talent for what she does on the court. She is a legendary scorer that isnt in the top 10 in ppg, is shooting under 30% from deep and under 40% overall, and has a bad a/to.
Maybe that is why she isnt treated like royalty by everyone...because her stats dont support it yet.
To be very clear, she seems like a really good person and above much of the manufactured drama that surrounds her on social media. I live in her hometown and saw her playing as a teen and into college- she has continually been a great person. And her CC Foundation has impacted multiple programs in our school district. I hope she continues to be the face of the league and an all-star.
Have you watched her play? As pointed out before, many of her TO’s are simply because her teammates can’t catch while moving. You highlighted poor shooting stats recently. What were they prior to the date you used first?
She’s the only female basketball player I’ve seen that I would classify as entertaining. That’s why many people describe her as a generational talent.
Have I watched her play? In the post you quote, I say I have seen her play since high school. I guess that doesnt specifically state I still follow her and watch her play, but yeah I still do. Admittedly, its probably 70% highlight clips and 30% actual games, but yep I watched last year and this year.
And I am aware that some of her turnovers are due to her teammates...I said that in post 54. I then said that despite that being a factor, I think her a/to isnt good. It just isnt. I watch her make a lot of bad passes that are on her and a lot of decision mistakes that are on her, and both lead to turnovers.
Up next, lets address your question of shooting stats. You asked me what they were prior to the date I used. Well, I clearly identified short term stats as being for the last 3 games. The remaining stats are for the season- so 9 games for her so far.
Her shooting last season over 40 games was better. Still under 35% from deep, but better than the current 29.5%. And her overall FG% was 41.7%. I wouldnt call her full season shooting stats last year 'great' or 'generational' or whatever else.
Hopefully that clears up any confusion on my prior posts.
I think your point was turned over in paragraph 17.
the eye test: that’s why she’s a generational talent.
The eye test saw her go 1 for 23 from deep over her last 3 games.
The eye test has seen her shoot under 30% from deep for the season.
The eye test sees her not even in the top 10 in PPG.
Eye mean, that simply isnt impressive for a generational player that is known as a sharpshooter.
She is talented and plays on a level that few others are at. Her body control is something that not many in the game have. But as of right now, her numbers dont come close to matching her popularity.
I give you a thumbs up for the use of “eye” in paragraph 4. I offer this, no one else in the wnba can do this:
When she is on, she gives a locked-in Steph a run for his money on impressive shooting. DGA17 if its a women's ball, the distance she hits from and her quick release coming off screens or the dribble is crazy to see.
Yeah this is all BS. She's the best player in the WNBA regardless of her current slump. You suggesting she's average loses any credibility you still have.. She's straight, she's white , and they hate her for it. Whether your politics can let you see it or not.
I have never suggested she is average. Nothing close to that has been said or suggested. If you came to that conclusion, thats on you.
I have said she isnt shooting well from deep, which is objectively true. I also said her numbers arent matching her popularity or legendary status.
That doesnt mean I think she is average.
Hell, I have posted a ton of compliments and the post right before yours, I say she gives Steph a run for his money when she is locked-in. 2 posts before that I clearly state that she plays at a level which few others are at.
There is nothing average about Clark.
I love how basketball experts try to tell us how ordinary she is.
I know! She looks 5’8” with those long legs in my mind, but II bet she’s 6’4” in heels. Still looking good
She's very good. And she may one day be the best, but she's not that now. All you have to do is look at Napheesa Collier's numbers and it'll be pretty obvious who's the better player right now...
They are definitely hyping it up as they should but CC gets hammered a lot on the court. Maybe that’s on purpose and maybe it isn’t.