Well ... if you can't stand the heat, then get out of the kitchen. We're giving these players the honor of going to MSU totally free of charge. The least they can do is try, and trying includes going to class. Remember ... it's a university and academics comes first, athletics second ... or at least that's the way it should be.
Worst kept secret ever, Roquez Johnson.
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Are you crazy? Bost would be leader? Bost would be kicking their asses for getting in trouble? Bost got suspended TWICE in his senior season for a total of about half the year. How can he kick Steele's *** for getting suspended once for a measly 3 games? Bost was a freaking cancer. He was worried about himself, not winning.
We've got to change the culture, and Rick Ray is trying. As coach34 says, you set the tone in year 1. You can always ease up, but you can't toughen up. We tried the Bost/Sidney/Augustus way. It led to suspensions, fights in the stands, and total dysfunction. I can't believe you want that back.
I had a course last spring with Steele and Moultrie. It was an HR class. Moultrie came to the first two classes, probably dropped it. Steele sat in front of me and he was there everyday the class met. Even after an overtime win last season in Columbia, Steele was there the next day. I was impressed.
...Had principles of Macroeconomics with Steele last spring and I can count on one hand with leftovers how many times I didn't see him there.
Has anyone heard of Tom Crean? He took over a disheveled IU program and had a few bad years to start with.
I think he gets 4 years.
Especially after what he was left without and all the stoners from Stan's teams.
Especially after what he was left without and all the stoners from Stan's teams.
No offense, but I hate when people say this about Ray. What do you think the policies are at the top programs where a player like that might go? They aren't anymore lax than ours are.
Definitely ...
Don't think that the definition of a "good" coach actually includes dismissing/suspending 33% of your team. So the coach doesn't deserve any blame for his players actions?
Seems like every transfer, dismissal or suspension was Stans fault when he was coach, but now, this is a sign of a 'good' coach.
And, not too long ago, you raving about Johnson and how Stans didn't give him a shot. That was 'before' he disappeared in the SEC, especially his last three games where he scored 3, 3, and 6 points, despite averaging over 24 minutes off the bench.
So, what changed?
Don't think that the definition of a "good" coach actually includes dismissing/suspending 33% of your team. So the coach doesn't deserve any blame for his players actions?
Seems like every transfer, dismissal or suspension was Stans fault when he was coach, but now, this is a sign of a 'good' coach.
And, not too long ago, you raving about Johnson and how Stans didn't give him a shot. That was 'before' he disappeared in the SEC, especially his last three games where he scored 3, 3, and 6 points, despite averaging over 24 minutes off the bench.
So, what changed?
Ray is still having to clean up Stands mess
And that wasnt me raving about Johnson. I havent said anything about him not playing last year. He was a true freshman- he didnt need to play and should have redshirted