Would Brown be interested

[WVUALLEN]

In a lump sum buyout. Cash in hand is better than cash in the future. Offer 75% of his contract.

If Brown and WVU negotiate a lump sum payment of 75% his remainder owed would require West Virginia to pay Brown $9.5M. Otherwise West Virginia would have to wait until January 1, 2025 have Brown’s guaranteed salary down to that level.

Also need to remove assistant coaches as well. Seven of the ten assistants are on the last year of their contract, so West Virginia will not be on the hook for their future salaries. The only three coaches who are signed for next year are Defensive Coordinator ($750,000), wide receivers coach Bilal Marshall ($200,000) and tight ends coach Blaine Stewart ($200,000). That’s only $1,150,000 and that those numbers will reduce if any of the three take a coaching job.

Neal Brown’s contract should not scare anyone into thinking that West Virginia can’t pay him off. A total of 10.6M to get rid of a sub-.500 coach and his staff that has ranked near the bottom in turnovers, turnover margin and wins is not the end of the world. Its also considerably less than what other teams have paid their coaches to stop coaching.

Then begin negotiating for new contract for future coaching staff.

Story from smoking musket by WVUnite.

 

[oceantide83]

Best option is to stick with Brown. He'll get it turned around.

 

[WVUALLEN]

Best option is to stick with Brown. He'll get it turned around.

Year 5 with 7 games in. It's not looking promising.

 

[oceantide83]

Year 5 with 7 games in. It's not looking promising.

Frank Beamer only won 2 games his 5th year after not having won more than 6 games in any previous season.

 

[Rootmaster]

Best option is to stick with Brown. He'll get it turned around.

Frank Beamer only won 2 games his 5th year after not having won more than 6 games in any previous season.

Stop being a dope.

 

[deedoubleyou]

In a lump sum buyout. Cash in hand is better than cash in the future. Offer 75% of his contract.

If Brown and WVU negotiate a lump sum payment of 75% his remainder owed would require West Virginia to pay Brown $9.5M. Otherwise West Virginia would have to wait until January 1, 2025 have Brown’s guaranteed salary down to that level.

Also need to remove assistant coaches as well. Seven of the ten assistants are on the last year of their contract, so West Virginia will not be on the hook for their future salaries. The only three coaches who are signed for next year are Defensive Coordinator ($750,000), wide receivers coach Bilal Marshall ($200,000) and tight ends coach Blaine Stewart ($200,000). That’s only $1,150,000 and that those numbers will reduce if any of the three take a coaching job.

Neal Brown’s contract should not scare anyone into thinking that West Virginia can’t pay him off. A total of 10.6M to get rid of a sub-.500 coach and his staff that has ranked near the bottom in turnovers, turnover margin and wins is not the end of the world. Its also considerably less than what other teams have paid their coaches to stop coaching.

Then begin negotiating for new contract for future coaching staff.

Story from smoking musket by WVUnite.

Imo, it would be worth every penny. At an average price of $97 per ticket, for every 10k seats that are empty, WVU loses nearly a million dollars to play with, not including drinks and food. When the stadium is only half full at our last game like it was last season, that is a lot of money lost. Not too mention this whole thing is damaging to the program. Thank God for the B12 payout or we'd be screwed. Neal and his staff have ushered in the biggest negative media circus we've ever seen geared towards WVU on top of it. Every single week its all about how hot or cool his seat it. Done with it....

As far as his contract goes, he has completely failed at what he was hired to do. If he wont renegotiate, then fk him, he is no friend of WVU. I thought he said he would step down is he wasnt getting it done when we hired him? Time for it now, imo. I like the idea of a reduced buyout in one lump sum. Do us a favor Neal Catfish Brown.....

 

[WESTBGVA]

the vendors make the lion's share of drinks and food,,, the standard for most colleges 22%

 

[westyrick]

Frank Beamer only won 2 games his 5th year after not having won more than 6 games in any previous season.

And Brown aint no Beamer!!!

 

[WVUALLEN]

Frank Beamer only won 2 games his 5th year after not having won more than 6 games in any previous season.

Frank Beamer didn't have to deal with NIL, Transfer Portal or the Woke generation.

 

[eerdoc]

And Brown aint no Beamer!!!

Says whom? Beamer NEVER encountered the myriad of difficulties in running a program that NB has had to deal with.
Why not shut up and give the guy a chance without the constant barrage of negative pity from the likes of you? Beamer did not experience Covid, the Portal. player free agency, the legalized buying of players with teams determined not by coaching and play but by the amount of money available to buy established, productive players. Let alone a non-recruiting former coach and staff that did not leave much from which to start the transition. Gotta also toss in the horrible officiating we seem to annually encounter that HAS cost us dearly.
WHY NO shut up with the negative barrage and see just what is possible with support and a calm atmosphere in which to operate? Will better quality kids want Eto play here IF they are not subject and see the coaches exposed to unreasonable critics by self appointed experts and accomplished biased operatives. Try for a couple years NOT uttering the slanted commentary and see what may develop. You, with your self impressed egotism IS hurting the program. STOP and try understanding the scenario under which this staff has had to adapt and try to move the program from where it was to what they desire. Try a little more patience and a LOT MORE UNDERSTANdING of the last few years and the total impact on THIS program.

 

[Shirley Knott]

In a lump sum buyout. Cash in hand is better than cash in the future. Offer 75% of his contract.

If Brown and WVU negotiate a lump sum payment of 75% his remainder owed would require West Virginia to pay Brown $9.5M. Otherwise West Virginia would have to wait until January 1, 2025 have Brown’s guaranteed salary down to that level.

Also need to remove assistant coaches as well. Seven of the ten assistants are on the last year of their contract, so West Virginia will not be on the hook for their future salaries. The only three coaches who are signed for next year are Defensive Coordinator ($750,000), wide receivers coach Bilal Marshall ($200,000) and tight ends coach Blaine Stewart ($200,000). That’s only $1,150,000 and that those numbers will reduce if any of the three take a coaching job.

Neal Brown’s contract should not scare anyone into thinking that West Virginia can’t pay him off. A total of 10.6M to get rid of a sub-.500 coach and his staff that has ranked near the bottom in turnovers, turnover margin and wins is not the end of the world. Its also considerably less than what other teams have paid their coaches to stop coaching.

Then begin negotiating for new contract for future coaching staff.

Story from smoking musket by WVUnite.

Even the Big lotteries only payout about 50% of winnings as cash payout...

 

[Shirley Knott]

Says whom? Beamer NEVER encountered the myriad of difficulties in running a program that NB has had to deal with.
Why not shut up and give the guy a chance without the constant barrage of negative pity from the likes of you? Beamer did not experience Covid, the Portal. player free agency, the legalized buying of players with teams determined not by coaching and play but by the amount of money available to buy established, productive players. Let alone a non-recruiting former coach and staff that did not leave much from which to start the transition. Gotta also toss in the horrible officiating we seem to annually encounter that HAS cost us dearly.
WHY NO shut up with the negative barrage and see just what is possible with support and a calm atmosphere in which to operate? Will better quality kids want Eto play here IF they are not subject and see the coaches exposed to unreasonable critics by self appointed experts and accomplished biased operatives. Try for a couple years NOT uttering the slanted commentary and see what may develop. You, with your self impressed egotism IS hurting the program. STOP and try understanding the scenario under which this staff has had to adapt and try to move the program from where it was to what they desire. Try a little more patience and a LOT MORE UNDERSTANdING of the last few years and the total impact on THIS program.

SHADDUP a-hole

 

[WESTBGVA]

In a lump sum buyout. Cash in hand is better than cash in the future. Offer 75% of his contract.

If Brown and WVU negotiate a lump sum payment of 75% his remainder owed would require West Virginia to pay Brown $9.5M. Otherwise West Virginia would have to wait until January 1, 2025 have Brown’s guaranteed salary down to that level.

Also need to remove assistant coaches as well. Seven of the ten assistants are on the last year of their contract, so West Virginia will not be on the hook for their future salaries. The only three coaches who are signed for next year are Defensive Coordinator ($750,000), wide receivers coach Bilal Marshall ($200,000) and tight ends coach Blaine Stewart ($200,000). That’s only $1,150,000 and that those numbers will reduce if any of the three take a coaching job.

Neal Brown’s contract should not scare anyone into thinking that West Virginia can’t pay him off. A total of 10.6M to get rid of a sub-.500 coach and his staff that has ranked near the bottom in turnovers, turnover margin and wins is not the end of the world. Its also considerably less than what other teams have paid their coaches to stop coaching.

Then begin negotiating for new contract for future coaching staff.

Story from smoking musket by WVUnite.

No

 

[Rootmaster]

Says whom? Beamer NEVER encountered the myriad of difficulties in running a program that NB has had to deal with.
Why not shut up and give the guy a chance without the constant barrage of negative pity from the likes of you? Beamer did not experience Covid, the Portal. player free agency, the legalized buying of players with teams determined not by coaching and play but by the amount of money available to buy established, productive players. Let alone a non-recruiting former coach and staff that did not leave much from which to start the transition. Gotta also toss in the horrible officiating we seem to annually encounter that HAS cost us dearly.
WHY NO shut up with the negative barrage and see just what is possible with support and a calm atmosphere in which to operate? Will better quality kids want Eto play here IF they are not subject and see the coaches exposed to unreasonable critics by self appointed experts and accomplished biased operatives. Try for a couple years NOT uttering the slanted commentary and see what may develop. You, with your self impressed egotism IS hurting the program. STOP and try understanding the scenario under which this staff has had to adapt and try to move the program from where it was to what they desire. Try a little more patience and a LOT MORE UNDERSTANdING of the last few years and the total impact on THIS program.

You're quite the accomplished apologist.

 

[The Bell Tolls for Thee]

Frank Beamer only won 2 games his 5th year after not having won more than 6 games in any previous season.

That was taking over a program that at the time had zero significant accomplishments. No way VT after Beamer's success would tolerate that kind of building process and nor should they. Just like FSU wouldn't and shouldn't after what Bowden built from when he took over that program.

Taking more than 5 years to get a program going that never was or has been mired in a generation of futility is not unreasonable. Neither applies to WVU however. And a coach that struggles to a .500 record in year 5 is nearly guaranteed to not bring a conference championship to that school.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

If Brown were smart, he would hold wvu accountable for every penny his contract promised. Every coaching hire is a risk it's not a guarantee.

 

[westsiderSJHS77]

Imo, it would be worth every penny. At an average price of $97 per ticket, for every 10k seats that are empty, WVU loses nearly a million dollars to play with, not including drinks and food. When the stadium is only half full at our last game like it was last season, that is a lot of money lost.

Only point I want to make. How many tickets were sold and not used for a rainy day game and the 70% empty student section (which are already covered in the student fees)? The financial impact may not be as big as it appears on TV.

 

[westsiderSJHS77]

…..Yet.

 

[ThePunish-EER]

If Brown were smart, he would hold wvu accountable for every penny his contract promised. Every coaching hire is a risk it's not a guarantee.

Yes, a very risky move by Lyons and the BOG backfired. I’m really not sure why they chose to invest so heavily into a HC who hadn’t won more than 6 games when they really didn’t have to. That is still a very puzzling move that in hindsight still never made sense to me. It wasn’t like Brown was irreplaceable regardless of whether he won 8-10 games or 4-5 games. I mean, did they think he was the next Nick Saban?

 

[WESTBGVA]

If Brown were smart, he would hold wvu accountable for every penny his contract promised. Every coaching hire is a risk it's not a guarantee.

he will...don't put this on Brown's shoulders, WVU offered the contract and he agreed to it. Whoever wrote that article had to be thinking about people taking cash options on lotto wins...that money is paid out over a 20 yr period..totally different ball game and really just something only a moron would dream up.

 

[WESTBGVA]

Only point I want to make. How many tickets were sold and not used for a rainy day game and the 70% empty student section (which are already covered in the student fees)? The financial impact may not be as big as it appears on TV.

if you have X you know that a program record was set for MP ticket's and that was reached in the first week of August

 

[spartansstink]

In a lump sum buyout. Cash in hand is better than cash in the future. Offer 75% of his contract.

If Brown and WVU negotiate a lump sum payment of 75% his remainder owed would require West Virginia to pay Brown $9.5M. Otherwise West Virginia would have to wait until January 1, 2025 have Brown’s guaranteed salary down to that level.

Also need to remove assistant coaches as well. Seven of the ten assistants are on the last year of their contract, so West Virginia will not be on the hook for their future salaries. The only three coaches who are signed for next year are Defensive Coordinator ($750,000), wide receivers coach Bilal Marshall ($200,000) and tight ends coach Blaine Stewart ($200,000). That’s only $1,150,000 and that those numbers will reduce if any of the three take a coaching job.

Neal Brown’s contract should not scare anyone into thinking that West Virginia can’t pay him off. A total of 10.6M to get rid of a sub-.500 coach and his staff that has ranked near the bottom in turnovers, turnover margin and wins is not the end of the world. Its also considerably less than what other teams have paid their coaches to stop coaching.

Then begin negotiating for new contract for future coaching staff.

Story from smoking musket by WVUnite.

No, he wouldn't.

Why would he? Why would he give up guaranteed money? Doesn't make sense...pay him his full amount.

The benefit of doing it this year is you may ultimately get to do it at a reduced price in the long run. Sure, WVU would owe Brown his full amount but as you wrote would be off the hook for 7 assistant coaches. If WVU waits until next year, although Brown's buyout would be less, the added price of paying off assistant coaches may cost more in the long run.

 

[spartansstink]

Says whom? Beamer NEVER encountered the myriad of difficulties in running a program that NB has had to deal with.
Why not shut up and give the guy a chance without the constant barrage of negative pity from the likes of you? Beamer did not experience Covid, the Portal. player free agency, the legalized buying of players with teams determined not by coaching and play but by the amount of money available to buy established, productive players. Let alone a non-recruiting former coach and staff that did not leave much from which to start the transition. Gotta also toss in the horrible officiating we seem to annually encounter that HAS cost us dearly.
WHY NO shut up with the negative barrage and see just what is possible with support and a calm atmosphere in which to operate? Will better quality kids want Eto play here IF they are not subject and see the coaches exposed to unreasonable critics by self appointed experts and accomplished biased operatives. Try for a couple years NOT uttering the slanted commentary and see what may develop. You, with your self impressed egotism IS hurting the program. STOP and try understanding the scenario under which this staff has had to adapt and try to move the program from where it was to what they desire. Try a little more patience and a LOT MORE UNDERSTANdING of the last few years and the total impact on THIS program.

Much of what you wrote is pretty spot on. However, there are some things that could be contested.

First, let's remove Beamer from the equation. Different time, different circumstances.

Second, those problems you listed, i.e. the portal, free agency, etc. are exactly right. However, what evidence has been shown that Brown is the right person to handle all those myriad of difficulties? Has progress, tremendous or otherwise, been made in utilizing the portal to improve results? Has recruiting had an uptick to where there is at least hope the future will be brighter? Have the results on the field shown up to the point to where one can at least see a brighter future? Or, have things become stagnant? Does next year appear to be a better year than this one? Is recruiting better? Is there the belief this coaching staff can pull some diamonds from the portal?

The reality is this - college football is now a business. It's not what it used to be when the Beamer's and Nehlen's arrived on the scene; the game was much more pure and arguably enjoyable. In today's world, if you are stagnant, you are falling behind.

I COMPLETELY understand what you wrote. Also agree 100% about how insufferable many on here are. Not to mention ignorant, too. Still, if someone the university believes can improve the situation becomes available, and is willing, they should cut bait with Brown and send him packing. That would apply to anyone who is coaching. But, to fire him, as some call for, without an improvement, perceived or otherwise, already in the works? That would be just as dumb.

 

[oceantide83]

And Brown aint no Beamer!!!

Correct..... he's better.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

he will...don't put this on Brown's shoulders, WVU offered the contract and he agreed to it. Whoever wrote that article had to be thinking about people taking cash options on lotto wins...that money is paid out over a 20 yr period..totally different ball game and really just something only a moron would dream up.

I understand people not being happy with the current situation, but Neal Brown has every right to every penny of that money. People seem to think that every investment is a guarantee and it's not. Hiring a coach is like betting on futures. Sometimes you strike it big but most times you don't.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Yes, a very risky move by Lyons and the BOG backfired. I’m really not sure why they chose to invest so heavily into a HC who hadn’t won more than 6 games when they really didn’t have to. That is still a very puzzling move that in hindsight still never made sense to me. It wasn’t like Brown was irreplaceable regardless of whether he won 8-10 games or 4-5 games. I mean, did they think he was the next Nick Saban?

The timing of it was the biggest head scratcher. He still had many years remaining on the contract at the time this extension was given. Wvu isn't the only university that has done something like this. I think universities would be better off giving coach's more money on the front end. If things don't pan out, you don't have to worry about paying out on the back end.

 

[WVUALLEN]

No, he wouldn't.

Why would he? Why would he give up guaranteed money? Doesn't make sense...pay him his full amount.

The benefit of doing it this year is you may ultimately get to do it at a reduced price in the long run. Sure, WVU would owe Brown his full amount but as you wrote would be off the hook for 7 assistant coaches. If WVU waits until next year, although Brown's buyout would be less, the added price of paying off assistant coaches may cost more in the long run.

Why did Scott do it with Nebraska? What about Colorado, Wisconsin and so forth and so on. Schools negotiate on buy outs with coaches and their guaranteed contracts. Because money up front is better than waiting.

So your willing to go through another .500 or worse season in 2024 just to save a couple of bucks.

 

[WVUALLEN]

Even the Big lotteries only payout about 50% of winnings as cash payout...

It's either that or wait 2 more years and he gets 75% anyway.

 

[spartansstink]

Why did Scott do it with Nebraska? What about Colorado, Wisconsin and so forth and so on. Schools negotiate on buy outs with coaches and their guaranteed contracts. Because money up front is better than waiting.

So your willing to go through another .500 or worse season in 2024 just to save a couple of bucks.

Up front, I have no idea why each of those coaches did what they did. I haven't researched it but I feel assured each had their own reasoning and maybe some extenuating circumstance. Wouldn't make sense for any other reason...

In order for there to be a negotiation, each side would have to be willing. To add, Brown would have to be willing to give up guaranteed money - money he knows is coming to him - by giving up the one thing he has going for him, his "ace in the hole", the guarantee. Plus, he knows he has WVU bent over the barrel - it is he who actually has the upper hand in the deal because he knows WVU probably won't be able to come up with the money it's going to take to get him to leave.

To give you an example, I buy my house this year at 8% interest. Two years from now, if interest rates are lower, I walk into the bank and ask to refinance. The bank doesn't have to negotiate - they have the upper hand. Only if they see a financial benefit will they even agree to negotiate. Otherwise, like WVU, I'm stuck by the terms I agreed to.

This was why I was adamant that WVU should have sold the farm so to speak to get Deion here (assuming it was possible). Yes, it would have cost us some high interest on the front end - but we would have gotten our first choice, it was an immediate upgrade with pretty much guaranteed money coming in, and we could always go back and renegotiate later. Instead, we may be stuck moving from the modular home we have now to the trailer park because we end up getting our 8th option later because of the competition we have to face.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter what I'm "willing to go through" if I don't have the financial means to change the outcome. I don't think WVU does or is willing to part with it without at least an upgrade ready to move in.

 

[deedoubleyou]

I wonder if Brown is interesting in living up to his words though? When he was first hired he said if he wasnt getting it done he would step down. Those words came out of his big mouth, but now, although he knows he has given WVU fans the worst stretch in 40 years and has completely failed, he has still decided to hold WVU hostage and milk every penny. That makes him even worse, imo, because he is totally full of **** and that is part of his problem and has been the whole time. He's a used car salesman who talks a bunch of crap and never delivers on any of it. He is 100% content to trash the WVU football program as far as possible, and milk every penny he can in the process. I expect him to take the low road because its all I've seen from him. He's all talk. If he was a man of his word he would step down.

 

[WESTBGVA]

He never said that..quit making up ******** out of thin air..WVU made the contract not him

 

[deedoubleyou]

He never said that..quit making up ******** out of thin air..WVU made the contract not him

He did say that, when he was first hired.

 

[WESTBGVA]

He did say that, when he was first hired.

no he did not..his opening press conference is on youtube and every press conference after that for that matter...who in the world would ever accept a position and say ..well if I don't get it done I'll step down..no one that's who...you just habitually make stuff up..like the time you wrote that Brown fired G Harrell and threw him under the bus
Harrell quit with two years left on his contract because Purdue offered him $900,000 and he was making $600,000...Purdue had to pay WVU over $400,000 when they took Harrell.

 

[WVex-pat in GA]

In a lump sum buyout. Cash in hand is better than cash in the future. Offer 75% of his contract.

If Brown and WVU negotiate a lump sum payment of 75% his remainder owed would require West Virginia to pay Brown $9.5M. Otherwise West Virginia would have to wait until January 1, 2025 have Brown’s guaranteed salary down to that level.

Also need to remove assistant coaches as well. Seven of the ten assistants are on the last year of their contract, so West Virginia will not be on the hook for their future salaries. The only three coaches who are signed for next year are Defensive Coordinator ($750,000), wide receivers coach Bilal Marshall ($200,000) and tight ends coach Blaine Stewart ($200,000). That’s only $1,150,000 and that those numbers will reduce if any of the three take a coaching job.

Neal Brown’s contract should not scare anyone into thinking that West Virginia can’t pay him off. A total of 10.6M to get rid of a sub-.500 coach and his staff that has ranked near the bottom in turnovers, turnover margin and wins is not the end of the world. Its also considerably less than what other teams have paid their coaches to stop coaching.

Then begin negotiating for new contract for future coaching staff.

Story from smoking musket by WVUnite.

I would like to find a way to keep Blaine Stewart, I think he has promise.

 

[mzman]

It

In a lump sum buyout. Cash in hand is better than cash in the future. Offer 75% of his contract.

If Brown and WVU negotiate a lump sum payment of 75% his remainder owed would require West Virginia to pay Brown $9.5M. Otherwise West Virginia would have to wait until January 1, 2025 have Brown’s guaranteed salary down to that level.

Also need to remove assistant coaches as well. Seven of the ten assistants are on the last year of their contract, so West Virginia will not be on the hook for their future salaries. The only three coaches who are signed for next year are Defensive Coordinator ($750,000), wide receivers coach Bilal Marshall ($200,000) and tight ends coach Blaine Stewart ($200,000). That’s only $1,150,000 and that those numbers will reduce if any of the three take a coaching job.

Neal Brown’s contract should not scare anyone into thinking that West Virginia can’t pay him off. A total of 10.6M to get rid of a sub-.500 coach and his staff that has ranked near the bottom in turnovers, turnover margin and wins is not the end of the world. Its also considerably less than what other teams have paid their coaches to stop coaching.

Then begin negotiating for new contract for future coaching staff.

Story from smoking musket by WVUnite.

It's a pretty straightforward calculation for Brown when he does a discounted cash flow calculation including tax effects. For example, I'm unsure if he would have to pay WV state taxes on future income if he moves to Florida. I also don't know what the buyout says about offsetting income if he takes another coaching job elsewhere. He might be willing to take a little more of a lump sum discount if it does have an offset. At this point, I'm sure his tax accountant has already advised him on this and has a good idea of the amount where a lump sum may make sense.

 

[Shirley Knott]

It

It's a pretty straightforward calculation for Brown when he does a discounted cash flow calculation including tax effects. For example, I'm unsure if he would have to pay WV state taxes on future income if he moves to Florida. I also don't know what the buyout says about offsetting income if he takes another coaching job elsewhere. He might be willing to take a little more of a lump sum discount if it does have an offset. At this point, I'm sure his tax accountant has already advised him on this and has a good idea of the amount where a lump sum may make sense.

pretty sure monies paid for work done or contracted from WV is taxable by WV...Then there's
that due to the IRS...

 

[WVUALLEN]

Up front, I have no idea why each of those coaches did what they did. I haven't researched it but I feel assured each had their own reasoning and maybe some extenuating circumstance. Wouldn't make sense for any other reason...

In order for there to be a negotiation, each side would have to be willing. To add, Brown would have to be willing to give up guaranteed money - money he knows is coming to him - by giving up the one thing he has going for him, his "ace in the hole", the guarantee. Plus, he knows he has WVU bent over the barrel - it is he who actually has the upper hand in the deal because he knows WVU probably won't be able to come up with the money it's going to take to get him to leave.

To give you an example, I buy my house this year at 8% interest. Two years from now, if interest rates are lower, I walk into the bank and ask to refinance. The bank doesn't have to negotiate - they have the upper hand. Only if they see a financial benefit will they even agree to negotiate. Otherwise, like WVU, I'm stuck by the terms I agreed to.

This was why I was adamant that WVU should have sold the farm so to speak to get Deion here (assuming it was possible). Yes, it would have cost us some high interest on the front end - but we would have gotten our first choice, it was an immediate upgrade with pretty much guaranteed money coming in, and we could always go back and renegotiate later. Instead, we may be stuck moving from the modular home we have now to the trailer park because we end up getting our 8th option later because of the competition we have to face.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter what I'm "willing to go through" if I don't have the financial means to change the outcome. I don't think WVU does or is willing to part with it without at least an upgrade ready to move in.

So basically your saying WVU is stuck until the end of 2026 season.

Deion has stated several times he was not interested in WVU.

May God have mercy on us.

 

[ThePunish-EER]

I wonder if Brown is interesting in living up to his words though? When he was first hired he said if he wasnt getting it done he would step down. Those words came out of his big mouth, but now, although he knows he has given WVU fans the worst stretch in 40 years and has completely failed, he has still decided to hold WVU hostage and milk every penny. That makes him even worse, imo, because he is totally full of **** and that is part of his problem and has been the whole time. He's a used car salesman who talks a bunch of crap and never delivers on any of it. He is 100% content to trash the WVU football program as far as possible, and milk every penny he can in the process. I expect him to take the low road because its all I've seen from him. He's all talk. If he was a man of his word he would step down.

He might be a bad HC at WVU, but I do not believe he’s a used car salesman who talks a bunch of crap. I think he’s a good man who is simply overwhelmed. For whatever reason, some HC’s fail badly at a certain school and then highly succeed elsewhere. I’m not sure why, but we see it a lot. Fact is at this point in time, Neal Brown has failed at WVU. Will he turn it around? Maybe? Maybe not? It’s my personal opinion that we should let him finish this season and then evaluate his entire 5 years of work.

 

[deedoubleyou]

no he did not..his opening press conference is on youtube and every press conference after that for that matter...who in the world would ever accept a position and say ..well if I don't get it done I'll step down..no one that's who...you just habitually make stuff up..like the time you wrote that Brown fired G Harrell and threw him under the bus
Harrell quit with two years left on his contract because Purdue offered him $900,000 and he was making $600,000...Purdue had to pay WVU over $400,000 when they took Harrell.

I don't randomly make up stuff, BRU. It wasn't in a press conference either time. These were in interviews on the radio. He threw Harrell under the bus live on the radio. It was as plain as day when he deflected the blame for last seasons offensive woes.

 

[WESTBGVA]

I don't randomly make up stuff, BRU. It wasn't in a press conference either time. These were in interviews on the radio. He threw Harrell under the bus live on the radio. It was as plain as day when he deflected the blame for last seasons offensive woes.

the hell you don't...you've told so many lies it's doubtful that you can remember half of them