Would you move back to Starkville?

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codeDawg

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I'm considering moving from Memphis back to Starkville to be closer to family for my young children and MSU for me. I've heard of several friends of friends moving back, but I don't know anyone directly that has done it. I'm wondering what other people would do if they had the opportunity to take a near lateral position move and their wife was cool with it.

My Pros:
- Very close to family
- MSU
- Simpler life (less traffic, crime, general BS)

My Cons:
- Much less to do (food, culture, kids activities)
- Far fewer professional opportunities.
- Quality of schools compared to top private schools in Memphis, maybe my biggest con
 

codeDawg

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I'm considering moving from Memphis back to Starkville to be closer to family for my young children and MSU for me. I've heard of several friends of friends moving back, but I don't know anyone directly that has done it. I'm wondering what other people would do if they had the opportunity to take a near lateral position move and their wife was cool with it.

My Pros:
- Very close to family
- MSU
- Simpler life (less traffic, crime, general BS)

My Cons:
- Much less to do (food, culture, kids activities)
- Far fewer professional opportunities.
- Quality of schools compared to top private schools in Memphis, maybe my biggest con
 

codeDawg

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I'm considering moving from Memphis back to Starkville to be closer to family for my young children and MSU for me. I've heard of several friends of friends moving back, but I don't know anyone directly that has done it. I'm wondering what other people would do if they had the opportunity to take a near lateral position move and their wife was cool with it.

My Pros:
- Very close to family
- MSU
- Simpler life (less traffic, crime, general BS)

My Cons:
- Much less to do (food, culture, kids activities)
- Far fewer professional opportunities.
- Quality of schools compared to top private schools in Memphis, maybe my biggest con
 

codeDawg

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I'm considering moving from Memphis back to Starkville to be closer to family for my young children and MSU for me. I've heard of several friends of friends moving back, but I don't know anyone directly that has done it. I'm wondering what other people would do if they had the opportunity to take a near lateral position move and their wife was cool with it.

My Pros:
- Very close to family
- MSU
- Simpler life (less traffic, crime, general BS)

My Cons:
- Much less to do (food, culture, kids activities)
- Far fewer professional opportunities.
- Quality of schools compared to top private schools in Memphis, maybe my biggest con
 

codeDawg

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I'm considering moving from Memphis back to Starkville to be closer to family for my young children and MSU for me. I've heard of several friends of friends moving back, but I don't know anyone directly that has done it. I'm wondering what other people would do if they had the opportunity to take a near lateral position move and their wife was cool with it.

My Pros:
- Very close to family
- MSU
- Simpler life (less traffic, crime, general BS)

My Cons:
- Much less to do (food, culture, kids activities)
- Far fewer professional opportunities.
- Quality of schools compared to top private schools in Memphis, maybe my biggest con
 
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the only hangup in the schools. I want my kids in public schools - so I'd have to think about Starkville High, just reality. Other than that, hell yeah I'd move back and I plan on it at some point. Either there or Columbus.

Career wise, it'd have to be a job that I could see myself staying for awhile - I have a few ideas for Starkville. As for the less things to do deal, well, you have a point there. But I would likely go to every game in the Big 3 sports.
 

weblow

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If you are going the public school route, Starkville is not where I would want to send my kids.
 

57stratdawg

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Would you really have that much less to do? You probably go to the same 10 restaurants every time you guys go out to eat.

Not sure on the school district situation.
 

shoeless joe

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and i'm lovin every second of it. just already being in town for any of the big sports weekends is worth it to me. now i'm not very far removed from graduating but i did move down south for a couple years before i had a job opportunity that brought me back. i'm also a big outdoors person so there is plenty to keep me occupied as far as extra things to do. i spend a lot of time hunting on national forest and refuge land or fishing over on the tombigbee.no kids for me yet but i do see the concern for the public schools for some.
 

FQDawg

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When I was at good ole SHS (granted it was back in the early 90's) it was generally viewed as one of the better public schools in the state.
 

Maroonbulldog

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Shopping and all is about 1.5 hours away to Jackson or bham. We r getting new restaurants so that hasn't been an issue at all.
We have kids and our oldest just started kindergarten this yr at public schools. We had a lengthy public vs private debate. The first several yrs public schools are just as good/ better but seem to have issues in middle schools. Sr high seems to be slightly ahead w activities but discipline seems better w private.

Career wise choices are limited obviously but if u find what u want u can b happy in a small town.
Plenty to do w university, bands, and local theater.

Will be glad to discuss further privately.

Jimmy
 

drail14me

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I'm curious as to what y'all are basing your point of view on? Actual experience? Can you explain what's wrong with the Starkville Public Schools?

I live here and I'd send my kids there in a heartbeat if I lived inside the Starkville Separate School Dist. However, since I live out in the county, my choice was the County Schools or Private. My kids go to a private school in another county. I'd send them to Starkville schools in a heartbeat if I could.
 
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but that's a different argument for a different day. And being from central MS I'm fully aware of every angle of the academy argument and I agree that some counties and communities needed private schools. Starkville was not one of them.
 

codeDawg

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I'm specifically talking about the opportunities the top private schools in Memphis provide. PDS/Hutchison/MUS are in a much different class than anything in Starkville.

The Starkville High vs. Starkville Academy I don't really know anything about.
 

mstateglfr

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Those two things would scare the crap out of me.

The lack of economic diversity in that area is stunning.
And I will go all stereotypical here since I am from and currently live in the upper Midwest, but the school system(s) down there would really concern me. I refuse to let my kids get pulled down by their peers and that that means pairing them with like minded families. From what I saw in the school system down there(elementary and HS), that simply isn't up to what I want to see. No idea about the academy.

I would love the housing costs, cost of living, easy access to rural areas and wildlife, and of course MSU sports.

The lack of quick access to basic growth and experience opportunities such as zoo, childrens center/science center, museums, etc would suck.
 

Yawyawfootball

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And your con of having less to do should be mostly negated. You'll be able to hang out with the family more and assuming you like going to State sporting events, you'll be right there for games. I'm sure you like to go to places other than sporting events, but as far as that aspect goes, MSU sports > U of Memphis and the Grizzlies. Plus, Starkville is getting some new restaurants and stores soon. If I had a lateral career move available in Starkville, I would be packing my stuff right now.
 

shoeless joe

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at overstreet elementary and starkville high about 3 years ago. the high school was just a normal mississippi high school to me, i did attend a public school in hinds county. but the elementary school was horrible. the kids were not at their grade levels in any way and the behavior was a HUGE issue for some of the teachers. like someone above stated the problem is that the private school exists.
 

weblow

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that they quit. All 3 of them said that the schools had gotten so bad that they no longer felt safe and also did not feel that they had any support from the school district. They said that kids were being passed to be passed and it had even gotten to where teachers were being threatened if they did not pass certain kids by the kids themselves and their parents.

They said it was really rough on the intelligent kids because they were being mistreated because teachers could not actually teach do to the disruptions in the class or because they had to focus all their time on a few kids that should have not passed the previous grade. Said these kids were getting less of an education than they deserved.


I personally have not witnessed any of this but one of the teachers was a family member of mine and I trust what this person says 100%.
 

mstateglfr

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Down there, it may the the Harvard of public education when compared to other schools in the area or state.

But compared to the north, northwest, and west suburbs of Chicago, it is seriously lacking. This is speaking based on my experiences from 12-7 years ago...the resources arent close- technology and specialized training to be specific. The demands on the student body from an academic perspective is far from the same. The level of education in a certain grade is not on par with that same grade in the multiple districts I am well versed in around the Chicago burbs.

Living in Des Moines now, it also isn't on par with what I compare Starkville schools to. However, the immediate west and north suburbs are far better than Starkville's school system.
 

MSUDawg25

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Its ok to pretty good, but I would consider sending her elsewhere when she gets HS age. My boss's wife works at the academy, and he says the same thing. I went to Northwest Rankin my entire schooling, so this is my first experience with private schools. I thought my education I got at NWR prepared me very well for college at MSU and would gladly send her there if I still lived in that area. Considering what it costs SA leaves some to be desired, but that is easily made up for with just a little bit of extra time spent working with my child. After that rambling, my point: As long as the schools are passable, kids can get an excellent education anywhere as long as you don't mind tutoring and working with them at home some.

ETA: When I first discussed it with my boss, I was<span style="font-weight: bold;"> </span>scared<span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;"> </span></span></span></span>to learn how little the academy teachers make. It is jack ****. However, after being around the school for a while I realized most of the teachers there are the wives of local businessmen or University employees. They are good teachers who don't need to bring home the bacon themselves, but teach because they like it.
 

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I grew up in Starkville
I went to public schools all my life
I graduated from MSU
I married a girl who did.

Starkville is a great place. Period.

It's not perfect, yet. But it's getting there.

My kids are in the public schools now, although I dont know whether they will graduate there. I pray they will. Simple reason, their dad did.

The academy is not a bad school. Matter of fact, it's pretty good.

I bought the home of my dreams.

I'll never leave again.

digger
 

thatsbaseball

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the percentages of seniors receiving scholarships. You can compare these stats to NW Rankin and take the guess work out .
 

MSUDawg25

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So why don't you make it rather than sending me to do research about something that is a moot point because I live in Starkville?
 

GTAdawg

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Columbus and West Point, SHS is doing pretty well. I could sit here and argue why I think SHS (and surrounding public HS's) are not as good as they once were, but then I would really be opening up a can of worms.
 

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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">I know this because my parents spent a combined 61 years working for public schools in the State of Mississippi, and moved to Starkville to teach in 1988. They have both decided to retire this year, but for their own personal reasons, not the state of the district.</span><div style="min-width: 0px; max-width: 99%; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><br style="min-width: 0px; "></div><div style="min-width: 0px; max-width: 99%; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">The problem is a combination of several things. For one, and I don't mind opening up a can of worms, there are a lot of ignorant, selfish, irresponsible parents putting their kids through school right now. This is national epidemic I'm sure, but it's definitely made it hard for teachers to discipline kids without legal (and even physical) threats from parents and kids who just don't get it and probably don't care. There have also been a few teachers who have made bad decisions, and it's made the district suffer as a whole.</div><div style="min-width: 0px; max-width: 99%; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><br style="min-width: 0px; "></div><div style="min-width: 0px; max-width: 99%; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">Secondly, and perhaps more importantly, there's a lack of initiative, creativity, and backbone in the school board right now. The fear of facing repercussions for political, financial, and alleged racial reasons have set the schools back. Administrators have their hands tied in a lot of situations, and it's unfortunate that no one is stepping up to the plate and demanding change.</div><div style="min-width: 0px; max-width: 99%; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><br style="min-width: 0px; "></div><div style="min-width: 0px; max-width: 99%; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">The saddest thing is, there are a lot of good teachers in the public schools. At least there were. In terms of education in the Golden Triangle, Starkville High and Columbus High are as good as it gets. Unfortunately, I fear that these school districts are going down a path where teachers will have less and less control. Education standards are fading, standardized tests are a joke, and enrichment funding simply isn't there anymore.</div><div style="min-width: 0px; max-width: 99%; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><br style="min-width: 0px; "></div><div style="min-width: 0px; max-width: 99%; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">Today's kid is not the same. Today's world is not the same. Kids socialize in a completely different capacity. They are desensitized in many ways that surprise and intimidate teachers. It's just something the education professors in colleges are going to have to catch on to so they can help new teachers adjust.</div><div style="min-width: 0px; max-width: 99%; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><br style="min-width: 0px; "></div><div style="min-width: 0px; max-width: 99%; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">I'm hoping that a rise in the Starkville population will eventually create a good crop of parents who demand better for their kids in the public schools, but right now, it simply isn't there. Until someone comes in with a bunch of money or gets enough community-wide support to change the way these kids are being handled and instructed at the very early grade levels, the problem will continue to worsen. There just isn't enough incentive for underprivileged and/or ignorant parents to pay attention to their kids.<div style="min-width: 0px; max-width: 99%; "><br style="min-width: 0px; "></div><div style="min-width: 0px; max-width: 99%; ">Anyways, I went to the public schools all the way through. In terms of the shift people have referenced in this thread, my graduating class was one of the last to come through that didn't have major problems. I loved my years going through the Starkville School District, and hopefully one day I can do something to help make it better. But that's neither here nor there.</div><div style="min-width: 0px; max-width: 99%; "><div style="min-width: 0px; max-width: 99%; "><br style="min-width: 0px; "></div><div style="min-width: 0px; max-width: 99%; ">Rant over.</div><div style="min-width: 0px; max-width: 99%; "><br style="min-width: 0px; "></div><div style="min-width: 0px; max-width: 99%; ">To answer your original question, if you've had your fill of bars, culture, concerts, restaurants, and wild times in general, moving back to Starkville isn't such a bad idea. But I'm decades away from making that move myself.</div></div></div>
 

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as well as they could have been educated at NW Rankin. I`m simply saying there are ways to at least get some comparison of the two schools academically. </p>
 

coach66

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Starkville has come a long, long, way since I graduated in 82. When I retire I plan to spend alot more time up there but I don't know that I will ever completely move to Starkville, we will see.
 

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57StratDawg said:
Would you really have that much less to do? You probably go to the same 10 restaurants every time you guys go out to eat.

Not sure on the school district situation.
but compare the ten restaurants..
 

GABully24

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and just moved back from the ATL area about 6 weeks ago. I honestly go out to eat/ out to the bar here in Starkville about as much as i did in ATL which isnt that much. As for comparing the restaurants comment, If you were to take the 10 best restaurants in ATL vs. the 10 best in Starkville there is no comparison, but ofthe three years i lived in ATL I probably went to one of those top 10 restaurants a total of 5 times. What I am saying is that for the restaurantsI "normally" wouldgo to, I would take Obys, Old Venice, and Mugshots over something like Jason's Deli, Olive Garden, or 5 Guys any day. Just my opinion.
 

jwbigcreek

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Had the chance and turned it down. Didn't like the schools or housing situation. Maybe when my youngest gets out of high school.
 

ShaNaNa

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I had a long response to reply with, but Ideleted itbecause this is a sportsmessage board. I will say this do not post a jab at Starkville Academy because you do not have a clue what you are talking about. You did not grow up here and you do not live here. It is not fair for you to assume that is the problem because you have some misconception that everyone educated in a private school is a racist biggot. If you would like to debate further maybe we could do so one day over a cup of coffee.</p>
 

ShaNaNa

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My wife teaches at the public school now. The students these days have zero responsibility or accountability. If they fail a test, they just get to retake it. My wife was reprimanded for taking points off a childs teast for cheating. Yep cheating. The parents got pissed and the principal took the parent'sside and said the teacher, my wife,did not have the right to take points off for cheating. Cheating and Failing is okay becasue someone will fix it for you.
 

Johnson85

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The public school, which hasmoremoney andpays its teachers betteris insuch a state that people choose to spend thousands of dollars per year for their kid to go to a different school, and your conclusion is that the problem is that the other school exists? Youthink youknow more than every parent atStarkville Academy about what's good for their child?</p>
 
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