Wow ! Lloyd Terry story on NJ.Com
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I don't believe the failed drug tests. I can't see any way that could be kept secret for months. IF it is true and Coach Flood knew, then that would be the end of me supporting Coach Flood. Again, I will beyond stunned if it is true and Flood knew.
Not so fast.
I'm pretty certain that it is NOT team policy to implicate players in drug test failures.
During Schiano's tenure, both Anthony Davis and Kenny Britt flunked drug tests for weed. Officially, they were "suspended for violation of team rules."
I was gonna earn a ship, but I got high
I was gonna get a Rutgers degree, until I got high
Now I'm singing like a canary
To save my hide. Why?
Because I got high
Because I got high
Because I got high
He's trying to take down anyone associated with him. This is what people do when their caught red handed. Try and take down everyone around them. I would take what he says with a huge grain of salt. Kid's pissed he got caught and will lie to take everyone down.
A walk on failing a drug test is not something they are going to report to the press. For all we know he could have been suspended multiple times before being kicked off. Who even knew this kid was on the team until he was arrested. Under HPPA they may not even be allowed to say anything about failed drug tests. Back of the ledge!!!
And away we go....
...IIRC every athletic department has their own set of rules, for drug testing, failed tests, etc., and it is up to EACH TEAM to monitor their roster. If the failed tests were being reported, and suspensions were given equally - to any and all players on a specific roster - than there should be no issues. If they weren't reported, or suspensions were doled out with , let's say, "favoritism," there could be big, big problems. Just spitballin' here, for now....
...So let's not assume anything, but, it'll be interesting to see what comes of this.
...IIRC every athletic department has their own set of rules, for drug testing, failed tests, etc., and it is up to EACH TEAM to monitor their roster. If the failed tests were being reported, and suspensions were given equally - to any and all players on a specific roster - than there should be no issues. If they weren't reported, or suspensions were doled out with , let's say, "favoritism," there could be big, big problems. Just spitballin' here, for now....
...So let's not assume anything, but, it'll be interesting to see what comes of this.
RU4real,
I remember that happening,but everyone in the stands knew what was the real reason. IF Coach Flood knew and there was no suspension, I can no longer support him. I think the kid is just making this stuff up though. I just want all this garbage to end--pretty soon schools are going to have to do legal background checks and have PI's follow kids around 24/7.
I remember that happening,but everyone in the stands knew what was the real reason. IF Coach Flood knew and there was no suspension, I can no longer support him. I think the kid is just making this stuff up though. I just want all this garbage to end--pretty soon schools are going to have to do legal background checks and have PI's follow kids around 24/7.
addicted to weed?
Either way, I cannot imagine the staff violated any policy to protect a walk-on who had no shot of ever helping the team in any meaningful way. Hopefully I am not proved wrong, because I am continually amazed at how inept Rutgers is showing itself to be.
Either way, I cannot imagine the staff violated any policy to protect a walk-on who had no shot of ever helping the team in any meaningful way. Hopefully I am not proved wrong, because I am continually amazed at how inept Rutgers is showing itself to be.
More to do about nothing. The vast majority of teams in the country have players failing tests for weed. I would go so far as to say maybe every single one.
Next drama piece, please.
Next drama piece, please.
Nobody cares about a kid failing a drug test (let's not be hypocrites here, lol...). That's no an issue at all IMHO and you're 100% correct re: it happens everywhere (and a lot...).
Correct. There is no NCAA regulation that stipulates a kid get "outed" for failing a drug test.
I realize I live my life in the 1600's,but I still think there should be some suspension IF he failed and Coach Flood knew.
Hey, everyone uses the if I'm going down, then I'm taking everyone with me strategy.
It was Rutgers case against Murdock and I believe nothing happened. School just moved on.
When the prosecutor asked him, why did this (home invasion) happen, Terry replied, "No reason."
Not only did he implicate teammates, but he refuted the notion there was a reason why the house was targeted.
This can't move through the courts quickly enough ...
Not only did he implicate teammates, but he refuted the notion there was a reason why the house was targeted.
This can't move through the courts quickly enough ...
He should tell all. Why spend more time in jail to protect a couple of losers you hooked up in college with. He's not Vito Corleone and this isn't The Godfather. Tell all and get the best deal you can get so you can get your life back as soon as you can and move on.
And kids get suspended for it at most places. Tyrone Matthews...aka the Honey Badger was kicked off the team at LSU.
And Rutgers isn't LSU
I don't believe the University ever counter-sued Murdock, but it's possible you may be confusing that with this.
And away we go....
...IIRC every athletic department has their own set of rules, for drug testing, failed tests, etc., and it is up to EACH TEAM to monitor their roster. If the failed tests were being reported, and suspensions were given equally - to any and all players on a specific roster - than there should be no issues. If they weren't reported, or suspensions were doled out with , let's say, "favoritism," there could be big, big problems. Just spitballin' here, for now....
...So let's not assume anything, but, it'll be interesting to see what comes of this.
B.) Rutgers University Sanctions and Procedures A violation of this policy is defined as a drug screen that has tested positive for a banned substance or a violation of the provisions of this policy regarding alcohol.
1.) First Violation: Notification, Treatment, and Sanctions
Positive drug screen results will be communicated by the laboratory to the Director of Sports Medicine. The Director of Sports Medicine will communicate to the Athletic Director, Head Coach, and Sport Psychology Team positive drug screens or other policy violations.
The student-athlete will receive a physical exam and be required to attend a mandatory counseling session with a counselor assigned by the Director of Sports Medicine. The student-athlete and the counselor will develop an individualized treatment contract. The contract will include treatment expectations for the student and it will detail probable future sanctions should the student-athlete commit further violations of the policy.
The specifics of counseling sessions will remain confidential, but the student-athlete will be asked to agree in writing to release reports on attendance and compliance to the Director of Sports Medicine, the Head Coach and the Athletic Director and Sport Psychology team. If discussion with other parties might be helpful to the student-athlete other appropriate releases of information may be specified.
Every student-athlete who commits a first violation of this policy may be suspended for a period of up to two weeks from practice and competition. The Director of Athletics will set the sanction in consultation with the Director of Sports Medicine, the Sports Psychology team, and the Head Coach.
2.) Second Violation: Notification, Treatment and Sanctions
The Athletic Director, Head Coach, and the Sport Psychology team will be notified by the Director of Sports Medicine of a second positive test result or violation of the alcohol policy. A second violation will be understood to mean that the student-athlete is in need of more extensive help. An appropriate counseling and rehabilitation program will be developed for the student-athlete and a written contract will outline that program. The specifics of counseling sessions will remain confidential, but the athlete will be asked to release a report on attendance and treatment compliance to the Director of Sports Medicine, the Head Coach and the Athletic Director. The student-athlete will be expected to follow all treatment recommendations.
The student-athlete who violates the Substance Abuse Policy for a second time will be suspended from all participation in athletic activities immediately for a minimum period of two weeks. If the violation occurs when the athlete is not in season, he or she may be suspended for the first two weeks of their competitive season.
3.) Third Violation of the Substance Abuse Policy
If the student-athlete violates the Substance Abuse Policy for a third time, it must be assumed that the student-athlete has a very significant problem or he or she has made a decision to not abide by the policies of the Division of Intercollegiate Athletics. This will be treated very seriously. All parties notified of the first two offenses will again be notified.
The third offense will dictate a suspension from practice and athletic competition for a minimum of one full calendar year from the date of the positive drug screen.
The Athletic Director in consultation with the Director of Sports Medicine, the Head Coach, and the Sport Psychology Team will decide whether he or she will be allowed to return for participation as a student-athlete within the Rutgers Division of Intercollegiate Athletics after the suspension. Prior to the suspension the student-athlete will have the opportunity to discuss the matter with the Athletic Director and present evidence of any mitigating circumstances that the student feels are important.
Any further offenses will result in final dismissal from participation in athletics as a member of the Rutgers Division of Intercollegiate Athletics. The Athletic Director will discuss the appropriate action with the Head Coach and the Director of Sports Medicine. In addition, the Director will recommend to the University Financial Aid Committee that any athletic grant-in-aid not be renewed for any subsequent year.
Still angry that my glowing Yelp review of Murdock's restaurant was removed:angry: Is that roach trap still in business?
Too tired to look it up but I thought it was the 5th that got him tossed. Anyway tomorrow is Homecoming...smoke em if you got em, none of us are eligible anyway
I still can't understand why Marijuana is illegal. Excellent way to relax and much less toxic than alcohol.