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This so cool.

After his football career was over, he went back to college, earning a Bachelor of Science in mechanical engineering from University of Central Florida in 2022[16] and a Master of Science in industrial engineering and systems engineering from University of Florida in 2025.[17]

As of 2025, he is employed by Lockheed Martin as an aeronautical engineer since 2023

17, the NFL won't let me link it or share it.

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Vick Ballard talks going from Colts starting RB to aeronautical engineer
 
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MagnoliaHunter said:
This so cool.

After his football career was over, he went back to college, earning a Bachelor of Science in mechanical engineering from University of Central Florida in 2022[16] and a Master of Science in industrial engineering and systems engineering from University of Florida in 2025.[17]

As of 2025, he is employed by Lockheed Martin as an aeronautical engineer since 2023

17, the NFL won't let me link it or share it.

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What the hell's with all the links?
 
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That’s impressive, but surely Dontae Jones has found the cure for cancer by now considering the pace of his studies
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I ain’t saying Vick doesn’t have the paper, but I AM saying I hired a Chem E from MS State in 2022 that couldn’t operate the chuck on a cordless drill. Didn’t know a flathead from a wrench. I’m not saying he couldn’t pass P Chem, I’m saying he couldn’t pass College Algebra without some assistance. That likely came from quotas. Only my employer kept me from calling the Dean.
 
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TroyMcClure2025 said:
I ain’t saying Vick doesn’t have the paper, but I AM saying I hired a Chem E from MS State in 2022 that couldn’t operate the chuck on a cordless drill. Didn’t know a flathead from a wrench. I’m not saying he couldn’t pass P Chem, I’m saying he couldn’t pass College Algebra without some assistance. That likely came from quotas. Only my employer kept me from calling the Dean.
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Meh…sounds like ME tasks.
 
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TroyMcClure2025 said:
I ain’t saying Vick doesn’t have the paper, but I AM saying I hired a Chem E from MS State in 2022 that couldn’t operate the chuck on a cordless drill. Didn’t know a flathead from a wrench. I’m not saying he couldn’t pass P Chem, I’m saying he couldn’t pass College Algebra without some assistance. That likely came from quotas. Only my employer kept me from calling the Dean.
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Do they teach that stuff in Chem E? I learned that stuff in the driveway under a car on weekends with my dad.
 
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TroyMcClure2025 said:
I ain’t saying Vick doesn’t have the paper, but I AM saying I hired a Chem E from MS State in 2022 that couldn’t operate the chuck on a cordless drill. Didn’t know a flathead from a wrench. I’m not saying he couldn’t pass P Chem, I’m saying he couldn’t pass College Algebra without some assistance. That likely came from quotas. Only my employer kept me from calling the Dean.
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Sounds like you had him doing maintenance technician duties. Did you hire a Chem E and expect him to be a mechanic?

Sounds like you and the taskings you assigned him were a bad fit for him.
 
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Barkman Turner Overdrive said:
Absolutely! Because P Chem is all about using impact wrenches and lathes. Eyeroll
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Jesus 17in Christ. Ok…he also couldn’t average 3 cells in Excel and couldn’t make a rocket out of Mentos and Coke. There was a time when an “engineer” had a basic, common sense skill set regardless of discipline. I’ve been in business a long time and will only tell you the overall caliber of “engineering” graduates has declined significantly. He couldn’t think. That’s what I hired him to do. He wasn’t the first.

If you think only a ME should know the difference between basic tools, you’re part of the problem. Go back to playing Halo with your online friends.
 
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Jesus 17in Christ. Ok…he also couldn’t average 3 cells in Excel and couldn’t make a rocket out of Mentos and Coke. There was a time when an “engineer” had a basic, common sense skill set regardless of discipline. I’ve been in business a long time and will only tell you the overall caliber of “engineering” graduates has declined significantly. He couldn’t think. That’s what I hired him to do. He wasn’t the first.

If you think only a ME should know the difference between basic tools, you’re part of the problem. Go back to playing Halo with your online friends.
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I’m sorry. The things you described in your earlier posts were maintenance mechanic tasks, not graduate engineer tasks. You never mentioned his inability to do Excel, which unfortunately is not taught the way it should be in Eng classes.

But in future experiences such as this, I highly encourage you to personally call the Dean of Engineering to complain to him that their curriculum didn’t teach the right wrench or screwdriver to use in situations so he can laugh at your medial work-a-day a$$.
 
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Barkman Turner Overdrive said:
I’m sorry. The things you described in your earlier posts were maintenance mechanic tasks, not graduate engineer tasks. You never mentioned his inability to do Excel, which unfortunately is not taught the way it should be in Eng classes.

But in future experiences such as this, I highly encourage you to personally call the Dean of Engineering to complain to him that their curriculum didn’t teach the right wrench or screwdriver to use in situations so he can laugh at your medial work-a-day a$$.
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You’re correct. That “medial work-a-day” only paid $150k a year for an “engineer” with less than 5 years of experience. My expectations are obviously the problem. Perhaps in the future, I should offer $200k and request an honor graduate? And remind him that both salaries are likely more than his “doctoral sit-on-his-pretentious-a*$-a-day” makes.
 
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TroyMcClure2025 said:
I ain’t saying Vick doesn’t have the paper, but I AM saying I hired a Chem E from MS State in 2022 that couldn’t operate the chuck on a cordless drill. Didn’t know a flathead from a wrench. I’m not saying he couldn’t pass P Chem, I’m saying he couldn’t pass College Algebra without some assistance. That likely came from quotas. Only my employer kept me from calling the Dean.
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He should have had my HS shop teacher; in freshman shop, I sure learned about left-handed screwdrivers, plank stretchers, skyhooks, etc., etc.
 
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TroyMcClure2025 said:
Sadly, only 19.83% of the readers here will understand this post.
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Excuse meeeeee.....if one in five of any demographic understands what a skyhook is then we are in pretty good shape. Not all of us are engineering grads, there are a lot of other disciplines represented on this board. Like most guys here, we learned mechanical skills from our dads or shop class or simply self taught. In my daily life, I don't need to know about stretchers, LH screwdrivers or skyhooks. Your hire's skill set was probably restricted to only textbook knowledge and he missed learning the practical knowledge somewhere down the line. If that's the case, he probably isn't a right fit unless you truly have the time to mentor him to fit your needs.
 
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TroyMcClure2025 said:
Jesus 17in Christ. Ok…he also couldn’t average 3 cells in Excel and couldn’t make a rocket out of Mentos and Coke. There was a time when an “engineer” had a basic, common sense skill set regardless of discipline. I’ve been in business a long time and will only tell you the overall caliber of “engineering” graduates has declined significantly. He couldn’t think. That’s what I hired him to do. He wasn’t the first.

If you think only a ME should know the difference between basic tools, you’re part of the problem. Go back to playing Halo with your online friends.
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Doesn’t say much for your interviewing and hiring skills. It’s like you hired Rick Ray.
 
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TroyMcClure2025 said:
I hired a Chem E from MS State in 2022 that couldn’t operate the chuck on a cordless drill. Didn’t know a flathead from a wrench. I’m not saying he couldn’t pass P Chem, I’m saying he couldn’t pass College Algebra without some assistance. That likely came from quotas. Only my employer kept me from calling the Dean.
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I didn't know @Barkman Turner Overdrive changed jobs?
 
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TroyMcClure2025 said:
You’re correct. That “medial work-a-day” only paid $150k a year for an “engineer” with less than 5 years of experience. My expectations are obviously the problem. Perhaps in the future, I should offer $200k and request an honor graduate? And remind him that both salaries are likely more than his “doctoral sit-on-his-pretentious-a*$-a-day” makes.
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If only there was an Exam that an engineering senior or a graduate engineer could take that could that would demonstrate that he or she knows the Fundamentals of Engineering.**
 
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If only there was an Exam that an engineering senior or a graduate engineer could take that could that would demonstrate that he or she knows the Fundamentals of Engineering.**
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The FE exam is good for bridge building at the DOT and/or if you want to work alone or in consulting. Few others give a damn. I’ve met PEs that I wouldn’t trust to build a smoker.
 
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TroyMcClure2025 said:
The FE exam is good for bridge building at the DOT and/or if you want to work alone or in consulting. Few others give a damn. I’ve met PEs that I wouldn’t trust to build a smoker.
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1) Passing the FE helped me get the first job out of college. It would have helped me get the Controls Engineering job I wanted very early in my career had we not been in an economic recession.
2) I have probably hit on ~ 50% my hires, but I took a graduate level class taught by an attorney and Management PhD that specifically went over what you should and cannot ask during an interview
3) I don’t know any PE that has miscalculated a routine percentage calculation that became a weekly, running joke for 20 years.
4) Welcome back.
 
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TroyMcClure2025 said:
I ain’t saying Vick doesn’t have the paper, but I AM saying I hired a Chem E from MS State in 2022 that couldn’t operate the chuck on a cordless drill. Didn’t know a flathead from a wrench. I’m not saying he couldn’t pass P Chem, I’m saying he couldn’t pass College Algebra without some assistance. That likely came from quotas. Only my employer kept me from calling the Dean.
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so what you're insinuating is that the only reason Vick got multiple degrees from multiple colleges was because of DEI? 17 outta here with that trash dude. you're an embarrassment to this fan base
 
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TroyMcClure2025 said:
I ain’t saying Vick doesn’t have the paper, but I AM saying I hired a Chem E from MS State in 2022 that couldn’t operate the chuck on a cordless drill. Didn’t know a flathead from a wrench. I’m not saying he couldn’t pass P Chem, I’m saying he couldn’t pass College Algebra without some assistance. That likely came from quotas. Only my employer kept me from calling the Dean.
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You sound a lot like the idiot I worked for straight out of school who got mad at me because I didn't know structures. Then got mad at me again because I couldn't find any oil boom two weeks after the BP explosion.
 
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