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Yes if your program hires an elite coach and spends 60 mil on football, you too can have a massive turn around.

Its still a great story. It just isn't as Cinderella as its made out to be. Im still glad they beat Miami.

Also, until there is a salary cap, big ten is going to win almost every year. They spend the most money which means they get to choose players.

That doesn't mean most athletic, it means best fit. It means you get mendoza, willing to die for his team, instead of jq who's knee started swelling soon as his dad was unhappy. That's why the big ten performs so well down the line in bowl games since pay for play.
 

KyCPA2000

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Yes if your program hires an elite coach and spends 60 mil on football, you too can have a massive turn around.

Its still a great story. It just isn't as Cinderella as its made out to be. Im still glad they beat Miami.

Also, until there is a salary cap, big ten is going to win almost every year. They spend the most money which means they get to choose players.

That doesn't mean most athletic, it means best fit. It means you get mendoza, willing to die for his team, instead of jq who's knee started swelling soon as his dad was unhappy. That's why the big ten performs so well down the line in bowl games since pay for play.
Yep, going all in on football financially will do it.
 

The Nightman2

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Yes if your program hires an elite coach and spends 60 mil on football, you too can have a massive turn around.

Its still a great story. It just isn't as Cinderella as its made out to be. Im still glad they beat Miami.

Also, until there is a salary cap, big ten is going to win almost every year. They spend the most money which means they get to choose players.

That doesn't mean most athletic, it means best fit. It means you get mendoza, willing to die for his team, instead of jq who's knee started swelling soon as his dad was unhappy. That's why the big ten performs so well down the line in bowl games since pay for play.
Lol that 60m figure thrown around was not NIL. They started doing renovations on their awful facilities. Blaming NIL for others winning has gotten old. I'd say we spent as much in NIL on football as Indiana, except we paid people who never played. Coaching matters. Indiana didn't suddenly start buying 5 stars.
 

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I despise IU fans. However, watching this IU football team was refreshing. They were disciplined. No showboating after every single play. They played as a team, and seemed focused on one goal, and that’s winning. They made very few mistakes all season.

Thats what coaching can do.

Hats off to them.

Their fans don‘t deserve this however.
 
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mhs1964

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the more I watch the more convinced I am that a football game between two relatively equal teams the winner is the team that commits the fewest errors, a sure sign of discipline and coaching.
 

bnewt

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Yes if your program hires an elite coach and spends 60 mil on football, you too can have a massive turn around.

Its still a great story. It just isn't as Cinderella as its made out to be. Im still glad they beat Miami.

Also, until there is a salary cap, big ten is going to win almost every year. They spend the most money which means they get to choose players.

That doesn't mean most athletic, it means best fit. It means you get mendoza, willing to die for his team, instead of jq who's knee started swelling soon as his dad was unhappy. That's why the big ten performs so well down the line in bowl games since pay for play.
that is what I assumed.........that IU paid a hefty price for the last 2 years.........
just does not seem feasible to go from the out house to national champs in football otherwise.

With this title, IU has undefeated basketball title, undefeated football title, and NCAA titles in soccer, diving
 

Bluetick2100

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Yes if your program hires an elite coach and spends 60 mil on football, you too can have a massive turn around.

Its still a great story. It just isn't as Cinderella as its made out to be. Im still glad they beat Miami.

Also, until there is a salary cap, big ten is going to win almost every year. They spend the most money which means they get to choose players.

That doesn't mean most athletic, it means best fit. It means you get mendoza, willing to die for his team, instead of jq who's knee started swelling soon as his dad was unhappy. That's why the big ten performs so well down the line in bowl games since pay for play.
Add to that if your starters are older than the starters for the Green Bay Packers helps a lot.
 

Monday Nitro

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Lol that 60m figure thrown around was not NIL. They started doing renovations on their awful facilities. Blaming NIL for others winning has gotten old. I'd say we spent as much in NIL on football as Indiana, except we paid people who never played. Coaching matters. Indiana didn't suddenly start buying 5 stars.
Yes they did. Mark Cuban facilitated it. More than 5 stars, though, he bought 55 guys that were in at least their 3rd year of college.
 
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Lol that 60m figure thrown around was not NIL. They started doing renovations on their awful facilities. Blaming NIL for others winning has gotten old. I'd say we spent as much in NIL on football as Indiana, except we paid people who never played. Coaching matters. Indiana didn't suddenly start buying 5 stars.

I never said it was. They spent a fortune on nil though. They are spending a fortune again. Acting like they didn't just isnt honestly discussing the facts.

Again, it doesn't take away from the fact cignetti is great; but its absolutely a big part of the discussion.

Spending big doesn't guarantee winning big. However not spending big does guarantee not winning big.
 
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I think both Da U and IU are great stories.

Neither is mega rich on the level most have been lead to believe.

Da U’s finances a bit more difficult to really know because they’re private, but Duke and Wake Forest are wealthy and private so…

IU isn’t the wealthiest school nor alumni base either. Even with Cuban. Northwestern and ND are wealthier with bigger whales and deeper pockets. Where’s their titles?

Canes and Hoosiers are the inevitable result of much needed change to the whole system.

The wealthiest alumni bases and programs most willing to spend most money on football did not play last night. They watched 30 year dormant program in pretty much every major sport a relatively small school from Florida probably not half the enrollment of UCF, FSU, UF…

“Cuban bought a team…” IU isn’t anywhere near most of the “title buying” teams in terms of overall athletics money or NIL. Even with Cuban.

Big dogs and big spenders watched last night. That’s the story.
 
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I think both Da U and IU are great stories.

Neither is mega rich on the level most have been lead to believe.

Da U’s finances a bit more difficult to really know because they’re private, but Duke and Wake Forest are wealthy and private so…

IU isn’t the wealthiest school nor alumni base either. Even with Cuban. Northwestern and ND are wealthier with bigger whales and deeper pockets. Where’s their titles?

Canes and Hoosiers are the inevitable result of much needed change to the whole system.

The wealthiest alumni bases and programs most willing to spend most money on football did not play last night. They watched 30 year dormant program in pretty much every major sport a relatively small school from Florida probably not half the enrollment of UCF, FSU, UF…

“Cuban bought a team…” IU isn’t anywhere near most of the “title buying” teams in terms of overall athletics money or NIL. Even with Cuban.

Big dogs and big spenders watched last night. That’s the story.

Miami was one of the biggest spenders for sure. Carson Beck alone was paid a fortune, which is laughable but still accurate.

Hell they paid two IG twins alot of money to play womens basketball, gymnastics or or something there.

They have a well known mega donor and apparently plenty of other money too. Wherever it comes from, they spend loads of money.
 

GrumpyCat70

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Miami was one of the biggest spenders for sure. Carson Beck alone was paid a fortune, which is laughable but still accurate.

Hell they paid two IG twins alot of money to play womens basketball, gymnastics or or something there.

They have a well known mega donor and apparently plenty of other money too. Wherever it comes from, they spend loads of money.
Funny things is the exact reason why Georgia fans couldn’t stand him and wanted him gone ended up being the last play of his college career. He throws the ball to the other team to much.


Nitro called it before it happened. It’s what Beck does I reckon.
 

BBNinSCar

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Yes they did. Mark Cuban facilitated it. More than 5 stars, though, he bought 55 guys that were in at least their 3rd year of college.
This does not become true because a couple of posters insist that it is.
While accurate NIL numbers are hard to find, it is estimated that Indiana football was about $21 million.
Miami NIL estimate is $30 million. All 3 teams beaten by Indiana in the playoffs had spent considerably more NIL money on their rosters.
 

CFE_

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He caught lightning in a bottle. Whether he can do it year after year is another story.
He's done it 2 season's in a row, with 2 QBs and has a highly touted transfer QB inbound and filled out gaps with a good transfer class.

There's zero reason at this point to doubt Cig and his ability to win - regardless of where he's coaching. I hate it just as much as the next Kentucky fan - but Cig is a winner.

It also dispels the notion that you can't win at certain programs - which means, there's zero reason UK can make the CFP and zero reason UKFB couldn't make a run at a title one day soon.
 

CutNets

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None of them duplicated what IU accomplished this year. Everyone wants to be IU today.

Well, no. But there can only be one champ. I think you can have a nuanced expectation of an AD, particularly when one has proven over and over to make bad decisions, and not be seen as a over-the-top reactionary fan.
 
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Funny things is the exact reason why Georgia fans couldn’t stand him and wanted him gone ended up being the last play of his college career. He throws the ball to the other team to much.


Nitro called it before it happened. It’s what Beck does I reckon.

He was way high on his two or three second beyond scrimmage completions vs ole miss. They were all really close to being overthrow picks.

Toney literally carried them via screens vs that depleted ole miss secondary.
 

Monday Nitro

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This does not become true because a couple of posters insist that it is.
While accurate NIL numbers are hard to find, it is estimated that Indiana football was about $21 million.
Miami NIL estimate is $30 million. All 3 teams beaten by Indiana in the playoffs had spent considerably more NIL money on their rosters

Nice try. NIL doesnt mean you’ll win it, it means complete no-name teams like Indiana can come out of nowhere with the right fiancial moves. Ef that classless fanbase.

 
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GrumpyCat70

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Nice try. NIL doesnt mean you’ll win it, it means complete no-name teams like Indiana can come out of nowhere with the right fiancial moves. Ef that classless fanbase.


We should trade a little bit of our class for a championship. I’m with ya tho
 

Monday Nitro

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We should trade a little bit of our class for a championship. I’m with ya tho
the word sosa that is glowing red
 
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