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Right now, I can’t think of a much worse situation to be in than that of Athletic Director Wren Baker, who has alienated a large portion of his fan base by giving Huggins a lethal injection after piling a DUI arrest atop a homophobic slur on radio.
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Allen, I’m sure you meant…

“Right now, I can’t think of a much worse situation than having Wren Baker as Athletic Director.”

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This is amature hour, and I dont think it's all Wren Baker. The only reason Baker is here is because we've been dealing with a bunch of morons for enough time they ran a lot of things into the ground. Gee and Asslop were the worst that Ive seen and the way they handled the Lyons/Brown situation was very bad for business for WVU. Make no mistake this is a business and has to be treated as such. And when your #1 most famous, loved, hall of fame, local grown, puts in his all guy gets fired, you have entered into a place that you may never pull out of. Bob Huggins is more to WVU than Gee, Baker, Neal Brown, Lyons, Holgerson, and everyone else combined. Its literally not even close. Letting him go is program suicide for a while. We may never truly recover from this.
 
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This is amature hour, and I dont think it's all Wren Baker. The only reason Baker is here is because we've been dealing with a bunch of morons for enough time they ran a lot of things into the ground. Gee and Asslop were the worst that Ive seen and the way they handled the Lyons/Brown situation was very bad for business for WVU. Make no mistake this is a business and has to be treated as such. And when your #1 most famous, loved, hall of fame, local grown, puts in his all guy gets fired, you have entered into a place that you may never pull out of. Bob Huggins is more to WVU than Gee, Baker, Neal Brown, Lyons, Holgerson, and everyone else combined. Its literally not even close. Letting him go is program suicide for a while. We may never truly recover from this.
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LOL, utter nonsense.

Huggins fired himself, not anyone else.

Some of us aren't blinded enough to believe one man is bigger than the program.

Bob did a lot for this program, but in the end he did himself in.
 
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This is amature hour, and I dont think it's all Wren Baker. The only reason Baker is here is because we've been dealing with a bunch of morons for enough time they ran a lot of things into the ground. Gee and Asslop were the worst that Ive seen and the way they handled the Lyons/Brown situation was very bad for business for WVU. Make no mistake this is a business and has to be treated as such. And when your #1 most famous, loved, hall of fame, local grown, puts in his all guy gets fired, you have entered into a place that you may never pull out of. Bob Huggins is more to WVU than Gee, Baker, Neal Brown, Lyons, Holgerson, and everyone else combined. Its literally not even close. Letting him go is program suicide for a while. We may never truly recover from this.
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And all Huggins had to do was not drive hundreds of miles drunk as hell at 2.5 times the legal limit, blacking out for 7 hours, drinking beer after beer while driving, getting lost 180 miles from where you think you are, and blocking traffic with a shredded tire because you are too drunk to pull the car out of the middle of the road.

Jesus Christ. Why does everyone act like this is such a terrible expectation to have for anyone, much less a 69 year old accomplished coach under the public eye who already did this once before.
 
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The Bell Tolls for Thee said:
And all Huggins had to do was not drive hundreds of miles drunk as hell at 2.5 times the legal limit, blacking out for 7 hours, drinking beer after beer while driving, getting lost 180 miles from where you think you are, and blocking traffic with a shredded tire because you are too drunk to pull the car out of the middle of the road.

Jesus Christ. Why does everyone act like this is such a terrible expectation to have for anyone, much less a 69 year old accomplished coach under the public eye who already did this once before.
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Huggins has the legal system to deal with. At least 98% of the people who get DUI's dont lose their jobs. The only reason he is losing his job is to appease a bunch of ball-less, whiny **** who are so mentally weak they enjoy seeing others suffer. There is really no other reason. That's why.

I'm not making excuses for Huggins, and I dont even drink, so there is that. I think drunk driving is stupid (hell I think drinking at all is stupid lol), but that is why he will go to court, and pay fines, lose his license or whatever the judge decides is proper punishment. For most people, it ends there. Ive never agreed with the double standard the sports figures have to live up to. It was just a part of the attack on American sports that started when most of us were young. To further peoples punishment to appease the mental midgets literally does nothing good, at all. Nothing comes of it. At least the fines he pays might make it back to the pool of cash they use on fixing roads or something. Literally, all we are doing by firing Huggs is hurting WVU in a big way. Just so a handful of people can feel like they have the moral high ground? Whatever dude. This is totally stupid in every way....this type of double standard should not even be legal, tbh. But they have brainwashed people to think its something good and should happen. Pathetic.
 
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The Bell Tolls for Thee said:
And all Huggins had to do was not drive hundreds of miles drunk as hell at 2.5 times the legal limit, blacking out for 7 hours, drinking beer after beer while driving, getting lost 180 miles from where you think you are, and blocking traffic with a shredded tire because you are too drunk to pull the car out of the middle of the road.

Jesus Christ. Why does everyone act like this is such a terrible expectation to have for anyone, much less a 69 year old accomplished coach under the public eye who already did this once before.
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You forgot to mention that he thought was in Columbus, Oh.
 
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Huggins has the legal system to deal with. At least 98% of the people who get DUI's dont lose their jobs. The only reason he is losing his job is to appease a bunch of ball-less, whiny **** who are so mentally weak they enjoy seeing others suffer. There is really no other reason. That's why.

I'm not making excuses for Huggins, and I dont even drink, so there is that. I think drunk driving is stupid (hell I think drinking at all is stupid lol), but that is why he will go to court, and pay fines, lose his license or whatever the judge decides is proper punishment. For most people, it ends there. Ive never agreed with the double standard the sports figures have to live up to. It was just a part of the attack on American sports that started when most of us were young. To further peoples punishment to appease the mental midgets literally does nothing good, at all. Nothing comes of it. At least the fines he pays might make it back to the pool of cash they use on fixing roads or something. Literally, all we are doing by firing Huggs is hurting WVU in a big way. Just so a handful of people can feel like they have the moral high ground? Whatever dude. This is totally stupid in every way....this type of double standard should not even be legal, tbh. But they have brainwashed people to think its something good and should happen. Pathetic.
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You are making excuses for Huggs though. If this were just some blue collar worker who pulled this **** in a company car, you'd not waste your time bemoaning how the employer did an egregious wrong by firing him.

Just admit you would put up with stupid, reckless behavior with a high probability of killing an innocent person for the sake of giving WVU basketball the best chance of winning.

Also physicians for sure and other professional jobs where a board monitors licensure will not only fire you, but ban you from any job in that sector for multiple DUIs. Hell even a single DUI without completing a rigorous 1 year program that typically includes abstinence in your private life cab result in this ban. High profile, professional jobs actually do have these standards.
 
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You forgot to mention that he thought was in Columbus, Oh.
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That's the 180 miles bit. I don't know who the hell we have on this board treating this as if it's not far beyond the pale. Many act like this is a guy who drank 3 pints at dinner and blew a .09 after getting pulled over for a missing tail light.

Are we supposed to chastise the .09 guy if he gets into a car accident and kills someone just because he was less lucky than Huggins in the consequences of his less stupid actions?
 
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The Bell Tolls for Thee said:
You are making excuses for Huggs though. If this were just some blue collar worker who pulled this **** in a company car, you'd not waste your time bemoaning how the employer did an egregious wrong by firing him.

Just admit you would put up with stupid, reckless behavior with a high probability of killing an innocent person for the sake of giving WVU basketball the best chance of winning.

Also physicians for sure and other professional jobs where a board monitors licensure will not only fire you, but ban you from any job in that sector for multiple DUIs. Hell even a single DUI without completing a rigorous 1 year program that typically includes abstinence in your private life cab result in this ban. High profile, professional jobs actually do have these standards.
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Do you know how many people are actually driving around drunk every single day? I already put up with it. I know people with multiple DUI's in multiple states and they still have their jobs and can somehow drive. Just driving to the store on a Friday night, there are probably 30-40% drunk people on the roads, especially in a ******** like Morgantown.

And btw, no one died lol. Fkn stupid lol. Like a perpetual womans time of month. Does it ever go away with you guys? Do you ever get off your high horse?

They have you convinced that a double standard should exist. That is fine. Maybe you wear a mumu in your spare time and watch soap operas. Good luck with your double standards.....

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Lemme ask you something, and all of the high horse folks. What does this type of double standard help with? Other than the fact that there are people out there who get their rocks off kicking people when they are down, what does firing people like Huggs actually accomplish forreal? What good does it bring our society? Adding insult to injury could be the turning point between someone getting the help they need, or just being shunned and shamed, potentially leading them into a deep depression state and potentially even more bad behavior. An argument could be made that society is safer if Huggins were not forced out of his job, because he has a WAY better chance at not falling deeper into the pits. And many other like him. So really, what good does firing Bob Huggins bring the world? Other than allowing certain people to get their rocks off watching others suffer, I cant see a single thing. If you want him removed from the ability to drink and drive ever again, you'd have to literally take him out lol. He will still be out there, but now with a lot more time on his hands! Fkn dumbasses. That is really all it is.....none of this makes sense and you cant even make it make sense....unless you're a butthurt who loves watching people suffer.
 
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Do you know how many people are actually driving around drunk every single day? I already put up with it. I know people with multiple DUI's in multiple states and they still have their jobs and can somehow drive. Just driving to the store on a Friday night, there are probably 30-40% drunk people on the roads, especially in a ******** like Morgantown.

And btw, no one died lol. Fkn stupid lol.

They have you convinced that a double standard should exist. That is fine. Maybe you wear a mumu in your spare time and watch soap operas. Good luck with your double standards.....
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I don’t wear mumu's. I wear scrubs. I've seen kids, wives, and fathers dead because some ******* with multiple DUI's did not get the appropriate criminal nor societal condemnation they fvcking deserved. I then take care of the drunken piece of **** that always seems to fvcking live through these events as they usually, cuss, spit, and sometimes assault us. And it's mostly because of devil may care attitude's like what you just said. Tell a fvcking child his parent is dead or watch a grown tough man bawl for his dead wife and/or child and say it's no big deal. I'd say the conclusion you should come to is that all those people you know face tougher repercussions, not convienently give clemency to the guy who you believe will make your entertainment better.
 
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The Bell Tolls for Thee said:
I don’t wear mumu's. I wear scrubs. I've seen kids, wives, and fathers dead because some ******* with multiple DUI's did not get the appropriate criminal nor societal condemnation they fvcking deserved. I then take care of the drunken piece of **** that always seems to fvcking live through these events as they usually, cuss, spit, and sometimes assault us. And it's mostly because of devil may care attitude's like what you just said. Tell a fvcking child his parent is dead or watch a grown tough man bawl for his dead wife and/or child and say it's no big deal. I'd say the conclusion you should come to is that all those people you know face tougher repercussions, not convienently give clemency to the guy who you believe will make your entertainment better.
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Ok so you are admitting that this is purely emotional for you, and no logic enters the picture. I get it, Ive seen some bad stuff too. I have pulled many dead bodies from the river. But they never stop because people still want to run the heavy whitewater despite the dangers. Crazy sure, but you will NOT stop people from doing what they want to do even with more laws. Emotional people have no business deciding things though. You will never be able to make sense of the actual double standard that exist, because your emotions on this topic are way too high to see logic.

Reality is the no one got hurt. People do get hurt in life every day, of course, but in this situation no one got hurt at all. In your mind though, someone died and you would treat Bob Huggins as such.
 
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steeleer said:
Stimpy crapped the bed. We spent a week to hire a completely unproven assistant as an interim.
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He did due diligence he reached out to Jay Wright, John Beilen and a few others. No one was willing to take the job so instead of taking the chance on an uninspiring hire he bought himself a year to do a proper search. The word interim doesn't mean permanent.
 
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Ok so you are admitting that this is purely emotional for you, and no logic enters the picture. I get it, Ive seen some bad stuff too. I have pulled many dead bodies from the river. But they never stop because people still want to run the heavy whitewater despite the dangers. Crazy sure, but you will NOT stop people from doing what they want to do even with more laws. Emotional people have no business deciding things though. You will never be able to make sense of the actual double standard that exist, because your emotions on this topic are way too high to see logic.

Reality is the no one got hurt. People do get hurt in life every day, of course, but in this situation no one got hurt at all. In your mind though, someone died and you would treat Bob Huggins as such.
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Reality is this isn't his 1st DUI he should have learned his lesson 18 years ago. He brought this problem on himself.
 
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He Brought this on himself his behavior was reckless and irresponsible. It's pretty clear he didn't learn his lesson the last time.
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That doesnt answer the question. A lot of people get DUI's, but most people only have to face the legal system. They dont lose their jobs over it. The question is, what good is it bringing anyone in the world by firing Huggins? What is the point and will it serve a real purpose other than feeding the wimp mob some small penis juice? Does it make the world more safe? Does it help Huggins? Does it help Pittsburgh (yuk it actually kind of does help Pitt!!)? Does it help WVU? Keep in mind, fans are happy that we just hired a guy who probably wouldnt have even gotten the Fairmont State job..... doesnt seem like anyone in the world is benefitting from this other than the woke mob and ppl who already hated Huggins.
 
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That doesnt answer the question. A lot of people get DUI's, but most people only have to face the legal system. They dont lose their jobs over it. The question is, what good is it bringing anyone in the world by firing Huggins? What is the point and will it serve a real purpose other than feeding the wimp mob some small penis juice? Does it make the world more safe? Does it help Huggins? Does it help Pittsburgh (yuk it actually kind of does help Pitt!!)? Does it help WVU? Keep in mind, fans are happy that we just hired a guy who probably wouldnt have even gotten the Fairmont State job..... doesnt seem like anyone in the world is benefitting from this other than the woke mob and ppl who already hated Huggins.
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Huggins was let go do to a pattern of bad behavior. Whether you realize it or not this has probably been going on for longer than you think. Not everyone that gets a DUI gets fired but not everyone keeps their job as well. In Huggins case this isn't his 1st offense, and it comes on the heels of the incident 6 weeks ago when he was put on notice. The problem with you is your obsessed with the word woke. Everything you don't like is woke. This has nothing to do with woke it's about exhibiting bad judgment on a continuous basis. If Gee is so woke as you say then why is his strongest supporters in the Wvu' legislator conservatives? They are the ones who had his back a couple of years ago in the no confidence vote. I guess they must be responsible for enabling this wokeism that has infatuated your mind.


 
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Huggins was let go do to a pattern of bad behavior. Whether you realize it or not this has probably been going on for longer than you think. Not everyone that gets a DUI gets fired but not everyone keeps their job as well. In Huggins case this isn't his 1st offense, and it comes on the heels of the incident 6 weeks ago when he was put on notice. The problem with you is your obsessed with the word woke. Everything you don't like is woke. This has nothing to do with woke it's about exhibiting bad judgment on a continuous basis. If Gee is so woke as you say then why is his strongest supporters in the Wvu' legislator conservatives? They are the ones who had his back a couple of years ago in the no confidence vote. I guess they must be responsible for enabling this wokeism that has infatuated your mind.


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"Is his strongest supporters" lol. That would be "are" dumbass. "Infatuated your mind"...an example of your middle school education. You are such a dimwit...but then again you are woke.
 
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deedoubleyou said:
What is the purpose of punishing Bob Huggins further than the legal system is going to? What good does it do anyone to fire
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"Is his strongest supporters" lol. That would be "are" dumbass. "Infatuated your mind"...an example of your middle school education. You are such a dimwit...but then again you are woke.
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I’ve lurked on this board for years, making the occasional comment, and must say you are an embarrassment to WVU fans everywhere. You would fit right in with the crowd that protested after Paterno got canned at PSU. Takes some real effort, but you may be the worst person on here. Congrats!
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That doesnt answer the question. A lot of people get DUI's, but most people only have to face the legal system. They dont lose their jobs over it. The question is, what good is it bringing anyone in the world by firing Huggins? What is the point and will it serve a real purpose other than feeding the wimp mob some small penis juice? Does it make the world more safe? Does it help Huggins? Does it help Pittsburgh (yuk it actually kind of does help Pitt!!)? Does it help WVU? Keep in mind, fans are happy that we just hired a guy who probably wouldnt have even gotten the Fairmont State job..... doesnt seem like anyone in the world is benefitting from this other than the woke mob and ppl who already hated Huggins.
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I'll answer this.

Most people don't lose their jobs because of DUI's because their job isn't dependent upon public perception. Some jobs do - teachers, police officers, and especially coaches (why Brown is on the hot seat, right?) - to name a few.

Again, this wasn't just an isolated incident. Regardless of how one feels about the remarks he made on that radio program, his bosses didn't like it - because of public perception. So, he was already treading on thin ice. Add on the lack of wins that are commiserate to the pay, Gee wanting him gone, and some other in-house stuff, Huggins had to watch his step.

Now, who does this help? For one, it helps the public. A person with that Blood-Alcohol Content isn't like the person who just had a beer or couple glasses of wine with dinner. A person with a BAC of 2.1 is someone who is playing Russian Roulette with every car that passes. A person who drives around with a cooler in the vehicle? A person who carries trash bags to fill with empties? That's indicative of someone with an alcohol problem.

So, secondly, and most importantly, it helps Huggins. Without the pressure of leading this basketball team now he can focus on himself. Now, he can go to rehab without worry. Now he can get healthier, mentally and physically. He can get back to being someone who can be trusted to do the right thing again - the very same thing he attempts to teach his charges.

Basketball is important. Wins are important. But, most importantly, Huggins is important. Self-destruction is the worst. Maybe this can serve as a wake-up call, allow him to get on the straight and narrow, and perhaps even allow him to get back to the one thing he loves to do most of all - coaching.
 
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JohnJoeSomething: I’ve lurked on this board for years, making the occasional comment, and must say you are an embarrassment to WVU fans everywhere. You would fit right in with the crowd that protested after Paterno got canned at PSU. Takes some real effort, but you may be the worst person on here. Congrats!

Spoken like a true lefty. If you cant handle opposing points of view, you should probably block me. You are the embarrassment, and not just to WVU fans.
 
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