%!$* you rhett hobart
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Was tents for tickets a logistical nightmare? Yes. But last year they had 35 kids do it There was no way of knowing that 8000 people would be there on Friday.
Maybe your post should say "17 you Mullen for creating expectations!! 11!!!!"
Maybe your post should say "17 you Mullen for creating expectations!! 11!!!!"
griping. I mean it was a cluster17 but I went out to the Junction at 5:00 p.m. yesterday and left after they announced there would be no more check-ins and got back at 7:00 a.m. this morning and had my tickets and t-shirt by 9. It was pretty reasonable considering the situation. There is not a single person involved that thought that many people would show up, and hell even I didn't but I didn't realize how many people thought it was mandatory. There are gonna be crazy lines anytime they do it on a Saturday. Before, they did it during class so it throttled the situation but kinda screwed some people who had and couldn't miss class.
I just got a text from a friend waiting pretty far back in the non-wristband line that said it was moving super fast once they started. Anyone that shows up today will likely get their tickets based on the people I saw in that single file line.
I just got a text from a friend waiting pretty far back in the non-wristband line that said it was moving super fast once they started. Anyone that shows up today will likely get their tickets based on the people I saw in that single file line.
the combination of fast pass & saturday was a bad combination. if they wanted to make an event of students waiting over night, or perhaps have it so that individuals who show up get first dibs that's fine. but what ended up happening was all the promotion the afternoon as the tents went up (twitpics, etc) and confusion about the fast pass made students panic about ticket availability. they probably ought to be glad, cause there's no telling how monday will be and they will sell out of however went on sale today.<div>
</div><div>that being said, the operation went really smoothly once you got to the m club</div>
</div><div>that being said, the operation went really smoothly once you got to the m club</div>
the system that was created this year was 100% fair. If you wanted to set up a tent, you could. If you wanted to wait in the 'stand-by line', you could AND STILL GET A TICKET. It seems like most of the student body was very happy with the process, but no matter what the situation is, students are always going to whine and complain (i.e. This is taking my entire Friday night or I didn't want to get up early Saturday). These people are the ones that are blaming Rhett Hobart who works very hard and attends every possible MSU Athletic event. To say it was a cluster, I agree. I hope the SA does this again next year, and maybe everyone will know what to expect.I pitched a tent at 5 p.m. yesterday, went to the vball game, came back to The Junction and Coach Mullen made a speech and bought everyone pizza. After 11 p.m., I left. Got back at 6:45 this morning and was one of the first 500 in the wristband line.By 8:15 I had my tix. I had a blast! If you didn't, you just missed out.
with that. I think the early communication was the real problem and it caused the huge misconceptions which actually led to "mandatory" aspect nearly coming true. I still feel that if you show up today at 1:00 p.m. you will pretty much get through pretty quickly and get tickets. Which if things had went as they thought it would, the same would have been true at 10:00 a.m. this morning.
I mean early communication was the only really bad thing of it all to me. Plus they really needed a bigger staff. Those poor folks were working hard all night and morning.
On a side note, one of those 17heads working with them would have been lucky not to get his nose broken had he slammed my door and trunk when we pulled up to drop off our tent. I mean it is one thing to tell people not to stop and move along, but that 17head just ran over and slammed their stuff and then told them. It pissed me and my buddy off who just saw it happen to some random folks. You just don't touch other peoples' stuff dressed in street clothes and with no real authority.
I mean early communication was the only really bad thing of it all to me. Plus they really needed a bigger staff. Those poor folks were working hard all night and morning.
On a side note, one of those 17heads working with them would have been lucky not to get his nose broken had he slammed my door and trunk when we pulled up to drop off our tent. I mean it is one thing to tell people not to stop and move along, but that 17head just ran over and slammed their stuff and then told them. It pissed me and my buddy off who just saw it happen to some random folks. You just don't touch other peoples' stuff dressed in street clothes and with no real authority.
this is refreshing. I'm really enjoying reading the post by students pissed off they couldn't just walk up to a ticket window and be done with it. We are finally 17n good in football and people still find something to ***** about. <div>
</div><div>Demand is a *****.</div>
</div><div>Demand is a *****.</div>
Last year, I got to the Union at 9 p.m. the night before they started selling at 8 a.m. and was first in line, or 11 hours early. This year, the guy who was first in line got there 24 hours early. And he wasn't alone for long apparently. If that doesn't show you the excitement level, I don't know what does.
Last year, there were maybe 35 people who camped outside the Union. Optimistic predictions for the Tents for Tickets turnout this year were 1200-1500, while most people expected it would really end up being more like 500. Instead, over 5000 showed up. HOW IS THIS A BAD THING? It means we have a real football program now, a program people want to be associated with. Instead of crying a river over a little personal inconvenience of standing in line, just be glad that our team is good and our fans care.
Last year, there were maybe 35 people who camped outside the Union. Optimistic predictions for the Tents for Tickets turnout this year were 1200-1500, while most people expected it would really end up being more like 500. Instead, over 5000 showed up. HOW IS THIS A BAD THING? It means we have a real football program now, a program people want to be associated with. Instead of crying a river over a little personal inconvenience of standing in line, just be glad that our team is good and our fans care.
Theunorganizedaspect was what everyone was mostfrustratedwith. If everything would have been laid out before Friday got here, it would have been a lot better.<div>
</div><div>Just for a time reference, I arrived in the junction around 6am this morning, didn't move until 10:20ish, and had my ticket at 11:15 and was told we were around 960 in the non wristband line. They should have started the non wristband line 2 or 3 hours after the other line, instead of just saying it started when the other was finished. If they said it wouldn't move until noon, everything wouldn't have gotten so backed up.</div>
</div><div>Just for a time reference, I arrived in the junction around 6am this morning, didn't move until 10:20ish, and had my ticket at 11:15 and was told we were around 960 in the non wristband line. They should have started the non wristband line 2 or 3 hours after the other line, instead of just saying it started when the other was finished. If they said it wouldn't move until noon, everything wouldn't have gotten so backed up.</div>
We are in the Top 20 andhave some great home games this year.I guess some studentsjust don't care about MSUAthletics asmuch as others.For me, I've been ready for the season ever since January 2. This is one ofthe most anticipated seasons in aVERY long time. Get over it and enjoy the excitement that's been created by Mullen, Stricklin,and the SA for hosting a majortailgate event like we had last night.
I have yet to find anyone that actually thought it was a good idea, wristbanders and late comers alike. The system may have been fair to a certain degree, but the point that I disagree with is that it was no where near the most efficient. I'm glad that they're at least trying to do something to go along with the excitement of the season, but this was just horribly executed.mstatedawg15 said:
I was in one of the first 100 tents, and the people around me were having fun. I admitI was wrong about the"MOST OF THE STUDENT BODY."I agree with what you said about the execution. Getting the tent set up in a good location at 5 was key for us and others. The ones who came out early seemed to have had a better time. Even if they were giving away FREE Student Tickets, students would complain that the tickets didn't come with aFREE True Maroon Shirt or some crap like that.</p>
i don't think its the demand that bothers people, but the way the demand was created and handled. but hey, selling people short is fine too
There is no defending that whole system. People who didn't get the wristbands should have gotten their tickets at the Brian building and save everybody 5 hours. They should put in some kind of seniority system like other SEC schools too.
Reasons it was stupid:<div>1) This "demand" was man-made, 300 people would have camped out like normal and everyone would have camesporadicallythroughout the day, like it always has been. Believe it or not, not everything need to be an event.</div><div>2) Should have started giving tickets to the "campers" at 6, since they were there anyway. No reason to start handing them out at 8 with the regular people waiting</div><div>3) I say "campers" because 1/2 of them went and set up a tent, then when theyrealizedthere were no "check-in points", they left and came back at 8 o'clock in the morning.</div><div>4) 4 windows open? Really? Last year we had theathleticsbuilding & union, which together was around 10.Obviously you don't need to have it at the M-Club where the maximum amount is 4 tickets.</div><div>5) Do the t-shirt line after you get your tickets, not before. Why slow down theprocesseven more?</div><div>6) Sure there are some more</div>
If it was organized as perfectly as it can be, you'll have less people complain about the organization and if there were people who weren't able to get their tickets then they'll probably be the ones to complain, but in no part will they be in the vocal majority. I hardly heard people complain last year, but the ones who did had a legitimate reason because of complications with their classes.<div>
</div><div>They could have done things so much differently. I honestly semi-liked the idea of the camping out. I wasn't going to do that **** anyway, but they could have incorporated in a grander scheme. Right off the top of my head, I would have given priority (like I haven been saying for a while) to grads to juniors. Depending on student density in each class, have a certain percentage of tickets to be given to those 3 classifications. Freshmen and sophomores, however, should not be given priority, but allow them the opportunity to receive priority by doing the camp out. If classes higher than sophomores feel that they want to be sure that they'll get a ticket, they could camp if they decided to do so.</div><div>
</div><div>To make things go smoother, arrange different points for the tickets to be picked up. The campers can be in the same location, juniors could be in the union, so on and so forth. They could even take things a step further by incorporating maroon alert or another system similar to it and alert students who haven't received their tickets how many tickets are left. Once a student uses their id, it takes them off the queue to receive said texts.</div><div>
</div><div>Hell... all I'm saying is...something better could have been thought up.</div>
</div><div>They could have done things so much differently. I honestly semi-liked the idea of the camping out. I wasn't going to do that **** anyway, but they could have incorporated in a grander scheme. Right off the top of my head, I would have given priority (like I haven been saying for a while) to grads to juniors. Depending on student density in each class, have a certain percentage of tickets to be given to those 3 classifications. Freshmen and sophomores, however, should not be given priority, but allow them the opportunity to receive priority by doing the camp out. If classes higher than sophomores feel that they want to be sure that they'll get a ticket, they could camp if they decided to do so.</div><div>
</div><div>To make things go smoother, arrange different points for the tickets to be picked up. The campers can be in the same location, juniors could be in the union, so on and so forth. They could even take things a step further by incorporating maroon alert or another system similar to it and alert students who haven't received their tickets how many tickets are left. Once a student uses their id, it takes them off the queue to receive said texts.</div><div>
</div><div>Hell... all I'm saying is...something better could have been thought up.</div>
that said there were 7,500 people in the junction last night. I wasn't willing to risk getting there even after 8 to potentially miss getting tickets. Come to realize, just like you said, all that hype was just that... hype. Reality didn't set it until about 11:00 that they were gonna have 1,500 tickets left over after the madness this morning. Could have been planned much better so you didn't have 3,000 intoxicated (or hungover) dehydrated students sitting on the sidewalks in 90 degree heat waiting for 2 and a half hours on the "priority" line to finish up.<div>
</div><div>Also, some "let's not panic... there are plenty to go around" tweeting would have made sense, too... especially when you are dealing with 8,000 excited people crowding into one area on campus at one time. I understand they probably weren't expecting so many to show up last night, but they could have worked so there weren't so many people crowded at the M-Club. There is too much excitement already, but they gave the perception that there are "very limited supply" of tickets instead of "take your time getting here... there are plenty to go around." That would have saved them a lot of trouble, too. </div>
</div><div>Also, some "let's not panic... there are plenty to go around" tweeting would have made sense, too... especially when you are dealing with 8,000 excited people crowding into one area on campus at one time. I understand they probably weren't expecting so many to show up last night, but they could have worked so there weren't so many people crowded at the M-Club. There is too much excitement already, but they gave the perception that there are "very limited supply" of tickets instead of "take your time getting here... there are plenty to go around." That would have saved them a lot of trouble, too. </div>
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That's fine, but it seems to be a misinformation campaign designed at making it seem like some diabolical plot to keep people from getting tickets. Life is what you make of it. Could some things have run better with the event? Absolutely. But instead of sitting at your computer complaining, why not shoot an e-mail to [email protected] suggesting ways to improve the experience? And it's not productive to say, just do it like last year with lines in the Union and the Bryan Building, because that's not one of the options that was placed on the table for the SA from everything I understand.
Rhett works pretty hard for State. He's constantly setting up events to create excitement for just about everything I can think of. He's one of the better SGA President's I've seen, IMO. Definitely one of the more involved ones.<div>
</div><div>Fine if this one didn't go so well... I doubt it was only his idea. Sometimes things don't work out.. I don't think it will be done this way again.</div><div>
</div><div>He's what? 21 tops? Go tell him to his face rather than make up some anonymous thread saying "*$!% you" so everyone can pile on him alone. Knowing Rhett, he'd actually take time out of his day to listen to you and fix it. I know he'd at least put his name beside his actions.</div>
</div><div>Fine if this one didn't go so well... I doubt it was only his idea. Sometimes things don't work out.. I don't think it will be done this way again.</div><div>
</div><div>He's what? 21 tops? Go tell him to his face rather than make up some anonymous thread saying "*$!% you" so everyone can pile on him alone. Knowing Rhett, he'd actually take time out of his day to listen to you and fix it. I know he'd at least put his name beside his actions.</div>
Here's my two cents...<div>
</div><div>I was one of the top 15 tents. We had a blast down there last night... and I think the SA did fine for being completely underwhelmed. There is no way they could have predicted that. However... where they screwed up was handling the line situation this morning. They lined all the students up like cattle and made us stand there for an hour while they got EVERY SINGLE TENT SECTION LINE UP! WTH? Why not let the tents 1-50 go and then after that call the next section??</div><div>
</div><div>Regardless I do think it's a tradition we should keep. More organization next year will result in a smoother process I hope. I still feel like Rhett and the SA had a chance to make up some ground with the whiners... but they completely dropped the ball on the line situation this morning. One more side note... he has gotten rid of campus wide emails from organizations! This has resulted in drops in members and attendance across MANY organizations. If you want to get rid of "spam" why don't you just create an Opt-Out Program? And before you one of yousmartassessays anything about that, he has been approached with this idea on more than one occasion.</div>
</div><div>I was one of the top 15 tents. We had a blast down there last night... and I think the SA did fine for being completely underwhelmed. There is no way they could have predicted that. However... where they screwed up was handling the line situation this morning. They lined all the students up like cattle and made us stand there for an hour while they got EVERY SINGLE TENT SECTION LINE UP! WTH? Why not let the tents 1-50 go and then after that call the next section??</div><div>
</div><div>Regardless I do think it's a tradition we should keep. More organization next year will result in a smoother process I hope. I still feel like Rhett and the SA had a chance to make up some ground with the whiners... but they completely dropped the ball on the line situation this morning. One more side note... he has gotten rid of campus wide emails from organizations! This has resulted in drops in members and attendance across MANY organizations. If you want to get rid of "spam" why don't you just create an Opt-Out Program? And before you one of yousmartassessays anything about that, he has been approached with this idea on more than one occasion.</div>
Anytime you do some sort of event like this, you are going to have issues that need to be corrected. It happens all the time. You learn from the mistakes and make it better next year.
Rhett wasn't politicing with his buddies and completely ignoring what was going on. I have to give him this, at least for this event. He was freakin' handing out waters this morning, for crying out loud. He communicates with the students and has busted his *** so far. Even though I thought the event could have gone better, he busted his *** for the students... I certainly have to give him that. <div>CEO2044 said:
</div><div>Thomas Sellers didn't know how to read a clock. The pep rallies last year started at least 30 minutes late and he didn't seem to give two ***** about the student body. Props to Rhett for making changes and taking risks.
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I Had a blast myself, but I'm pretty sure that line wrapped all the way up the road by Barnes and Noble up to the North side of DWS and then around to the Chapel. Very happy that I got one of the first 500 tix. Calling tents in groups of 25-50 would be the best thing. Maybe they'll do it again next year. It can only get better and last night was pretty good. Just work on the overall communication and execution.
He's already tweeted someone's fixes to the event for next year and has said he's reading all of them and definitely re-evaluating for next year.
Send him your ideas, I guarantee he's looking at them. Welcome to democracy- things don't always go your way. I still think the SA is doing a LOT more with the students this year than it seems they did when I was there. Be glad.
Send him your ideas, I guarantee he's looking at them. Welcome to democracy- things don't always go your way. I still think the SA is doing a LOT more with the students this year than it seems they did when I was there. Be glad.
The elimination of campus wide emails was a bad move. I remember that being a point in his campaign, but it went along with some kind of opt out program or club bulletin board for people to post stuff on. Now the only thing we have to rely on is the msu activities calendar on the website, which the average student does not check.
Here's the link to that article-http://www.noisefarmer.com/2011/08/better-tents4tickets.html.<div>
</div><div>Pretty good from my observations on the whole deal.</div>
</div><div>Pretty good from my observations on the whole deal.</div>
now that's something I could agree with. I'd be all for us keeping the Tents4Tickets but not the execution. That has got to go.