Your thoughts if Stoops makes no changes to the coaching staff?

Robcatt24

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I believe there is a good chance that Ansley leaves on his own to another job.

But outside of that, how optimistic would you be if Stoops doesn't do some shaking up to his coaching staff?

Personally, I believe he needs to change out at least 2 spots.

I'm doubting he makes any changes, though.
 
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I believe there is a good chance that Ansley leaves on his own to another job.

But outside of that, how optimistic would you be if Stoops doesn't do some shaking up to his coaching staff?

Personally, I believe he needs to change out at least 2 spots.

I'm doubting he makes any changes, though.
If we fire Dawson and hire an experienced OC who runs a pro style. I think we make a bowl. If we keep Dawson i will not renew my season tickets because with him I think 4-8 immenent.
 

ukalum1988

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I would hate to see Ansley leave, but he's got every right to do so if he's offered a better opportunity for himself, his family, etc.

Frankly, it's all on Stoops anyway regardless of what changes he makes or doesn't make. You and I can wail and gnash our teeth all we want about poor OL play, poor ST play, poor WR play (to name a few), but if Stoops wants to keep certain guys on staff, I'm OK with it at this point. If he wants to shake up his staff, I'm OK with that too.

I guess I'm at the point where he's free to do what he wants with his coaching staff as far as I'm concerned. He just needs to show tangible improvement in 2016; i.e. a better win-loss record.
 

Mr Schwump

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I would hate to see Ansley leave, but he's got every right to do so if he's offered a better opportunity for himself, his family, etc.

Frankly, it's all on Stoops anyway regardless of what changes he makes or doesn't make. You and I can wail and gnash our teeth all we want about poor OL play, poor ST play, poor WR play (to name a few), but if Stoops wants to keep certain guys on staff, I'm OK with it at this point. If he wants to shake up his staff, I'm OK with that too.

I guess I'm at the point where he's free to do what he wants with his coaching staff as far as I'm concerned. He just needs to show tangible improvement in 2016; i.e. a better win-loss record.

Agree, if asst changes are to come it'll be after the '16 season. Still, wouldn't be surprised to see Mainord eventually go.
 

Deeeefense

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My thought would be he must have great confidence in all of them than, and that whatever problems they had have been fixed or are fixable, becasue honestly, in 2016 CMS is going to have his back against the wall. If we have another season like the one we just endured it's hard to see how he can survive.
 
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cmark22

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The crowd is going to go before any assistants go. Unless they leave on their own.
 

Rockford

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I find it immaterial when compared to next season's W/L record. Stoops will rise or fall on the W/L record.

Maybe he needs to change some coaches, maybe he doesn't.

It all depends on W's and L's anyway.
 

akaukswoosh

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I believe there is a good chance that Ansley leaves on his own to another job.

But outside of that, how optimistic would you be if Stoops doesn't do some shaking up to his coaching staff?

Personally, I believe he needs to change out at least 2 spots.

I'm doubting he makes any changes, though.
No asst. changes = circling the wagons.
 
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etowncatfan

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I think Stoops doesn't get rid of anyone this year. If things aren't any better next year he will get rid if some assistants. That will allow him another year reprieve with the fans.
 

Allan Brewer

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No. 1 I don't think that the decisions about staff have been made yet, and probably will come out in the next couple of weeks if they happen at all
No. 2 If CMS returns everyone from this year to his staff next season he will be sitting in CWS with about 30,000 empty seats watching his team
 
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Kats23

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No changes in staff tell me everything I need to know about Stoops. Hardheaded, willing to change, failing to realize there are real problems in development. Kind of how he coaches a game.

No changes means a similar season if not worse next year. Worse means we have a brand new staff at the helm in 2017
 

Shydog

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if Coach Stoops doesn't make meaningful changes in his staff, then next year we don't look much more organized than this year then I am gonna say that HE is the problem not his staff. I so hope Stoops turns us into a good SEC program!!
 

sluggercatfan

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I believe there is a good chance that Ansley leaves on his own to another job.

But outside of that, how optimistic would you be if Stoops doesn't do some shaking up to his coaching staff?

Personally, I believe he needs to change out at least 2 spots.

I'm doubting he makes any changes, though.
After over 40+ yrs I think I'm out of optimism... Until I start seeing some concrete results I don't have any
 

BlueRaider22

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Rockford's right. It doesn't matter what we think. It comes down to wins and losses. If we win the staff will be cheered. Lose and the staff will be jeered.
 

dailydouble

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If we fire Dawson and hire an experienced OC who runs a pro style. I think we make a bowl. If we keep Dawson i will not renew my season tickets because with him I think 4-8 immenent.


Funny, but I remember people blasting Joker for trying to implement a pro style offense. Claiming a spread, pass happy offense was the only way to win at UK. Now, with our anemic OL, a pro style is the way to go?
 

Barry MuCockinher

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If we fire Dawson and hire an experienced OC who runs a pro style. I think we make a bowl. If we keep Dawson i will not renew my season tickets because with him I think 4-8 immenent.
Exactly what I've been thinking. No solid changes and upgrades no ticket renewal. Staying the same shows complacency and they way things went last year is acceptable
 
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Funny, but I remember people blasting Joker for trying to implement a pro style offense. Claiming a spread, pass happy offense was the only way to win at UK. Now, with our anemic OL, a pro style is the way to go?
Wel I don't know why you quoted me saying this considering I never thought joker would be good no matter what kind of offense we run.
 

Calsarmy

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I liked the Stoops hire at the time. If he does not try to improve the team ie......by changing assistant coaches he wont be a HC after his stint here at UK. Its up to him really. He was 47 years old getting his first HC job. Old by almost all standards, especially in the SEC. I would do whatever was necessary if I were him. I am fairly confident he wont. The Joker Vandy game will look like 200,000 people compared to where it will be with another 5-7 next year. Honestly I think we will be lucky to be 5-7. Its a way tougher schedule imo.
 

Katwatcher

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No. 1 I don't think that the decisions about staff have been made yet, and probably will come out in the next couple of weeks if they happen at all
No. 2 If CMS returns everyone from this year to his staff next season he will be sitting in CWS with about 30,000 empty seats watching his team

Stoops is in the best position to know what his assistants are doing. Firing someone just because the fans thinks he needs to go is not too smart. All the position coaches are in the same boat in that the majority of players are young and inexperienced.

Fer example, the OL coach probably has the hardest job because it usually takes 3 years of maturity to be able to compete against the Jr. and Senior lineman in the SEC. The offensive line was our weakest group and it may not necessarily be the coaches fault, but Stoops should know and will make the decision to keep or let go.

Firing coaches doesn't always fix the problem especially if its coming from some impatient fans that seems to think its the only way to go. You should also remember the assistant may be responsible for
some of the incoming recruits who could change their mind. jmho
 
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oboroCATfan

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As has been stated Stoops doesn't have to change anything because of the great contract he has. He has 2 years to do what he wants.
 

oboroCATfan

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Stoops may have his faults and short comings but apathy is not one of them IMO.

I don't think he is apathetic, I think he truly believes what he is doing is right and that the people he hired are who needs to be here. That, IMO, will be his downfall.
 
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No. 1 I don't think that the decisions about staff have been made yet, and probably will come out in the next couple of weeks if they happen at all
No. 2 If CMS returns everyone from this year to his staff next season he will be sitting in CWS with about 30,000 empty seats watching his team
Unless they win.....
 

Shavers48

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maybe after 5 years Barnhart will let him spend some money on coaches but for now it seems that the marching order are go recruit and just get by. maybe we'll spend some money on coaches when you have more talent.
 

jauk11

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maybe after 5 years Barnhart will let him spend some money on coaches but for now it seems that the marching order are go recruit and just get by. maybe we'll spend some money on coaches when you have more talent.

Similar to my thought, mitch said the money isn't available. Because he went overboard too early.
 

Shavers48

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Where was it said or documented that Mitch said "money isn't available.?"
it didn't have to be said. there was a USA today story just this week indicating we are 30th in spending for assistants with most of the SEC in the top 10. we clearly aren't spending now to compete and if we make no changes will remain so.
 

VikingsCat

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For the fire Dawson posters on here. Check out the highlights of Mac Jones that wanted to come play for Dawson. Kid got potential to be a great COLLEGE quarterback.



With Dawson gone we will be back to QBs with pro potential (because the can throw long and are tall) and poor college performance
 

cawood12

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Stoops is in the best position to know what his assistants are doing. Firing someone just because the fans thinks he needs to go is not too smart. All the position coaches are in the same boat in that the majority of players are young and inexperienced.

Fer example, the OL coach probably has the hardest job because it usually takes 3 years of maturity to be able to compete against the Jr. and Senior lineman in the SEC. The offensive line was our weakest group and it may not necessarily be the coaches fault, but Stoops should know and will make the decision to keep or let go.

Firing coaches doesn't always fix the problem especially if its coming from some impatient fans that seems to think its the only way to go. You should also remember the assistant may be responsible for
some of the incoming recruits who could change their mind. jmho
Finally an intelligent post.. Too many do not know what they are talking about.
 
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it didn't have to be said. there was a USA today story just this week indicating we are 30th in spending for assistants with most of the SEC in the top 10. we clearly aren't spending now to compete and if we make no changes will remain so.
That is a statement without merit. However, you have stated an opinion while baseless is welcome nonetheless on a message board.
 
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Shavers48

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That is a statement without merit. However, you have stated an opinion while baseless is welcome nonetheless on a message board.
its a fact we spend what we do. my opinion is it is intentional but can't be said publicly as it would hurt ticket sales. you can form your own opinion. but there is more merit there pehaps than you can stand.
 
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its a fact we spend what we do. my opinion is it is intentional but can't be said publicly as it would hurt ticket sales. you can form your own opinion. but there is more merit there pehaps than you can stand.
Another insider with knowledge that made public would hurt ticket sales. OK, I understand and thank you for saving us from this matter of great importance.
 

Allan Brewer

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its a fact we spend what we do. my opinion is it is intentional but can't be said publicly as it would hurt ticket sales. you can form your own opinion. but there is more merit there pehaps than you can stand.

I kind of agree with you Shaver
For years Mike Brown put all the big NLF TV money in his pocket and short-changed the fans and the city with the least-expensive Bengal product he could produce
There is so much guaranteed money for UK from the SEC by just putting any product on the field that they can't afford not to, even if it is the least effective