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[MSUDOG24]

So one of the great things about YTTV is that they put "CDN"'s everywhere close to the ISPs. This just means the distance over the internet from your phone or your TV is not far and they have LOTS of them (Google knows how to do this well because of YouTube and knows where to put them). It also means that the YTTV app on your phones will be better than others for TV streaming, better than the ESPN app and better than any other TV streaming apps. Side note inside baseball here: Google knows that ESPN struggles with delivering video efficiently without buffering and Google knows YTTV is the best at it. So they are giving ESPN the middle finger about this as well because ESPN content works better on YTTV than on the ESPN app. So the more that sign up for ESPN on the ESPN app the worse the buffering will be (kind of like what everyone sees with Starlink service, oversubscribed)

Interesting. I finally moved off DTV to YTTV over their ESPN flap last year and have absolutely loved it. I did have to finally pay the extra 5-10 bucks to upgrade to "4K/extra streaming" as I'll have 4 or 5 TV's going and it kept kicking one out. Once I did, it cranks everywhere including having multiple going on quad box (does that see it as one stream or 4?) Fast navigation, no kicking out or buffering ever on any of them (my big concern changing from satellite to internet TV) .

I signed up for ESPN Ultimate for a month as a bridge and what a POS app it is. Spent the last 2 days buffering, and/or kicking out back to the damn Roku screen and/or logging back in and that was on 3 TV's. Sounds like I shouldn't expect any better.

Frustrating thing is I don't care what it cost and more than willing to pay the "nuisance & hassle avoidance" fee. As someone suggested in another thread, take it out of your base plan and give me the option to pay for it as an add on. Seems the difference between what YTTV is paying and Disney is asking is 10 or 15 bucks? Sign me up today.

Been reading the threads here and a few on the www and still not sure what to do. Guess I'll start T&E'ing my way through the free/reduced price offerings to see what best fits my needs. Maddening.

 

[Bulldog Bruce]

This is why they made all those anti-trust laws at the start of the last century. Disney is a content provider as well as a content distributor. They own 70% of FUBO TV. Their direct competition is YTTV. What better way to beat YTTV than to make the content you create be more expensive to them than to your own content distributor business?

This is what Standard Oil did. They owned stakes in all levels of the oil business where their competition had to buy from Standard refineries. Their stations in direct competition areas sold gas below market rates while they controlled prices of the competition by being the only supplier of gas to them.

 

[dorndawg]

This is why they made all those anti-trust laws at the start of the last century. Disney is a content provider as well as a content distributor. They own 70% of FUBO TV. Their direct competition is YTTV. What better way to beat YTTV than to make the content you create be more expensive to them than to your own content distributor business?

This is what Standard Oil did. They owned stakes in all levels of the oil business where their competition had to buy from Standard refineries. Their stations in direct competition areas sold gas below market rates while they controlled prices of the competition by being the only supplier of gas to them.

Yep! Anti-trust/monopoly laws have been rolling back for probably 20 years, and have really accelerated lately.

 

[rynodawg]

Still sticking with old school satellite Directv.

It takes an annual call to get a loyalty discount tacked on, but sitting at $100/mo right now. They typically include Extra Innings and NBA league pass free too.

 

[woozman]

kicking out back to the damn Roku screen

This is really the only issue I’ve had with it besides it being slow AF on start up. It will randomly show me the ESPN logo and then kick me to the Roku Home Screen an average of 3-4 times during a normal game. It’s frustrating as hell because of the aforementioned slowness of starting the app up again…

 

[Hugh's Burner Phone]

Exactly what I did. I was going to drop yttv anyway because I never watched enough to justify the price. I don't remember the last time I watched live tv that wasn't a msu sporting event or 5 minutes of an NFL game. I can safely say it would be at least 2-3 years or however long the walking dead ended. I did throw in paramount, too. Now I'm watching Landman.

Dropped yttv, got espn ultimate with hulu and Disney + went from 80+ a month to 30 a month.

 

[basedawg]

Just read an update and maybe there is a chance an agreement might be reached soon. Both sides are losing money, MNF was down 21 or 24%.
I imagine it hurt also with college football last Saturday.

 

[Seinfeld]

I am probably moving to FUBO. The reason for not going to HULU is they only allow 2 devices streaming at a time. We have 4 TVs in the house and when I'm home on the weekend we may be streaming 3 as a minimum. With FUBO you can stream up to 10 devices at a time. I left satellite for this very same reason. So I guess moving around will be the way going forward.

This seems to be the direction that I’ll be heading. In addition to including espn unlimited, FUBU has the FanDuel channels too, so I’ll be able to cancel my YTTV, ESPN, and FanDuel subscriptions by moving to them. The only downside I’ve read is that they don’t carry TBS and TNT, but oh well I guess. I’ll live

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

We are looking at DIRECTV because it includes the ESPN/Disney package in its price. I'm giving YTTV one more week to fix the problem.

 

[RebelRH]

This seems to be the direction that I’ll be heading. In addition to including espn unlimited, FUBU has the FanDuel channels too, so I’ll be able to cancel my YTTV, ESPN, and FanDuel subscriptions by moving to them. The only downside I’ve read is that they don’t carry TBS and TNT, but oh well I guess. I’ll live

I'm going to wait another week. Someone on here said they may be getting close. I need some type of streaming service that can satisfy my wife. If that is possible. If it was just me I would drop it all and find ways to stream what I want when I want it. She can't do that.

 

[coach66]

I can’t find any update on the slap fight with Disney. Anyone???

Sucks!!!

 

[basedawg]

Sucks!!!

I google it, we shall see if this is coming to an end this weekend, probably wishful thinking.

 

[PrimeDog]

I am a yttv subscriber AND an ESPN+ subscriber.
Why can't i watch MSU basketball tonight on ESPN+?

Because the game was on SECN+. An ESPN+ sub only gets you access to the plus content, not the content tied to the linear channels.

ESPN Ultimate gets you access to it all.

 

[The Cooterpoot]

Let me get this straight, some of yall are willing to pay double what you paid for YouTube and the ESPN add on, and/or give up live tv, because Disney says so?

 

[DawgsNCowboys87]

Not thread high Jack but I love the newer Beavis and Butthead **** is funny as 17. Bring back all the old memories but they are well written. Season 3 episode 6 on YTTV Metal Detector & Too big too fall is so damn funny. They all are but especially that one to me.

 

[Irondawg]

I'm going to wait another week. Someone on here said they may be getting close. I need some type of streaming service that can satisfy my wife. If that is possible. If it was just me I would drop it all and find ways to stream what I want when I want it. She can't do that.

Same - If push comes to shove this weekend I’ll upgrade my Disney package to the espn unlimited for a bit

 

[Jack Klompus.sixpack]

I'm going to wait another week. Someone on here said they may be getting close. I need some type of streaming service that can satisfy my wife. If that is possible. If it was just me I would drop it all and find ways to stream what I want when I want it. She can't do that.

Your username includes rebel, so what?, go away. There is another message board available for your kind.

 

[Jack Klompus.sixpack]

I'm going to wait another week. Someone on here said they may be getting close. I need some type of streaming service that can satisfy my wife. If that is possible. If it was just me I would drop it all and find ways to stream what I want when I want it. She can't do that.

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

Your username includes rebel, so what?, go away. There is another message board available for your kind.

He has been around since 2013, so ain't stirrin no shat. Let him be, we talking about streaming services.

 

[Colonel Angus.sixpack]

Your username includes rebel, so what?, go away. There is another message board available for your kind.

We talking about TV. Calm down. It’s not like he stole your Space Pen.

 

[AnesthesiaDawg]

Staying with YouTube TV. Best interface by far, great DVR, has Sunday Ticket, love the multi view, and I can use my same account anywhere I go so I don’t need any other service at my place in Starkville.
I’ll just keep using my relative’s credentials (has Xfinity) to stream on the crappy ESPN app until this is resolved.

 

[CochiseCowbell]

Does "white tv" have anything to do with "yt supremecists?"

 

[Jack Klompus.sixpack]

We talking about TV. Calm down. It’s not like he stole your Space Pen.

 

[MStateU]

I would think again before signing back up with direct/dish. Those typically have long term contracts and have a history of falling out with certain channels too.

I would probably do one of the cancel anytime streaming options and suck it up on the interface issues for the time being.

I don’t have issues right now because I’m on Hulu but if I were there’s no way I’m signing one of those Dish network 2 year contracts. Just way too much uncertainty right now.

 

[Dawg1976]

Direct Tv Stream is just like any other streaming service. No contracts. Same with Sling which is owned by Dish. Only the Satellite versions have contracts.

 

[Jack Klompus.sixpack]

He has been around since 2013, so ain't stirrin no shat. Let him be, we talking about streaming services.

I apologize.

 

[mcdawg22]

We talking about TV. Calm down. It’s not like he stole your Space Pen.

I would say something funny about your username but I can’t quite put it together. It’s on the tip of my tongue:

 

[Podgy]

Just read an update and maybe there is a chance an agreement might be reached soon. Both sides are losing money, MNF was down 21 or 24%.
I imagine it hurt also with college football last Saturday.

Those companies are suffering. With everything going on the least we can do is donate to some trust fund for the kids of these CEOs. Alphabet is barely surviving and as we all know, Disney is deeply concerned about the well-being of poor people judging from the incredibly low prices at their parks.

 

[Jack Klompus.sixpack]

I would say something funny about your username but I can’t quite put it together. It’s on the tip of my tongue:

Cunning

 

[basedawg]

It is crazy stuff, same with the politics in Washington with the lockouts, no doubt they are hurting America and should not be paid for the lock out.

 

[00Dawg]

Honestly, this whole thing has led me to an exercise in frustration. We really only need our 4 major locals, the ESPNs (with SEC Network+), and my wife's favorites (Food, HGTV, Fox News, and Hallmark). Bonus points for TBS and TNT during March Madness, and the ability to watch the Braves.
What I found is every solution has drawbacks.
1. Fubo - no HGTV/Food network as they never settled their dispute with Discovery+
2. Hulu + Live TV - horrible interface, sightly more expensive, and you know the price will go up in about a year
3. Sling TV - no local channels in my area
4. DirecTV stream - Starting in month 4, $35 more per month to get the channel lineup we need
5. Spectrum TV - $5 more per month for the first year, then $25 more
6. Budget version (OTA antenna, Discovery+, ESPN Unlimited with Fox, and Hallmark app) - holy heck are the reviews on the DVR options for the locals full of tech landmines, and I'm a tech guy! Not to mention ESPN Unlimited doesn't seem to be wowing anyone.

 

[dorndawg]

Honestly, this whole thing has led me to an exercise in frustration. We really only need our 4 major locals, the ESPNs (with SEC Network+), and my wife's favorites (Food, HGTV, Fox News, and Hallmark). Bonus points for TBS and TNT during March Madness, and the ability to watch the Braves.
What I found is every solution has drawbacks.
1. Fubo - no HGTV/Food network as they never settled their dispute with Discovery+
2. Hulu + Live TV - horrible interface, sightly more expensive, and you know the price will go up in about a year
3. Sling TV - no local channels in my area
4. DirecTV stream - Starting in month 4, $35 more per month to get the channel lineup we need
5. Spectrum TV - $5 more per month for the first year, then $25 more
6. Budget version (OTA antenna, Discovery+, ESPN Unlimited with Fox, and Hallmark app) - holy heck are the reviews on the DVR options for the locals full of tech landmines, and I'm a tech guy! Not to mention ESPN Unlimited doesn't seem to be wowing anyone.

It's maddening that until 10 or so years ago, it was extremely easy to watch the channels you mention - in fact, other than the networks you could ONLY get them together.

 

[ababyatemydingo]

Get you an ONN 4K Plus or Pro Android streaming box for $30 at Walmart, and look into IPTV.

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

Honestly, this whole thing has led me to an exercise in frustration. We really only need our 4 major locals, the ESPNs (with SEC Network+), and my wife's favorites (Food, HGTV, Fox News, and Hallmark). Bonus points for TBS and TNT during March Madness, and the ability to watch the Braves.
What I found is every solution has drawbacks.
1. Fubo - no HGTV/Food network as they never settled their dispute with Discovery+
2. Hulu + Live TV - horrible interface, sightly more expensive, and you know the price will go up in about a year
3. Sling TV - no local channels in my area
4. DirecTV stream - Starting in month 4, $35 more per month to get the channel lineup we need
5. Spectrum TV - $5 more per month for the first year, then $25 more
6. Budget version (OTA antenna, Discovery+, ESPN Unlimited with Fox, and Hallmark app) - holy heck are the reviews on the DVR options for the locals full of tech landmines, and I'm a tech guy! Not to mention ESPN Unlimited doesn't seem to be wowing anyone.

My hairdresser told me yesterday, she watches our games on Youtube, so All Cured.