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OT: Need Career Advice/Opinions

Let me start by saying that I currently serve in the C-Suite of a company that was struggling before my arrival nearly 6 years ago. Without giving too much away this is in an industry that is hyper-competitive with lots of turnover. A bragger I am not, but I've almost single-handedly led us to unprecedent success that the company hasn't seen in over 60 years. I've been able to consistently recruit the best talent and put them in positions to succeed and it's worked great. Not to say that I'm perfect because I'm certainly not, I am extremely ambitious and earlier in my career I was fired or left abruptly from every company I worked for. But the company I'm at now took a chance on me and it's helped me to turn my life around. I've stopped drinking and my ex-wife and I are even reconciling. Enough time has passed and I feel like I've reached my ceiling at my current company. I'm proud of what I've accomplished but I feel dissatisfied and can't help wanting more. I like my current company but don't love it, and I will probably have this job as long as I want - no matter the results going forward. Hell, they'll probably build a statue of me before it's all said and done. So here's the kicker: There have been two larger competitors that have recently had jobs come open and they both are actively pursuing me. I've been in discussions with them since last month and both are making offers that would make me the highest paid in my position in the entire country. Given that my current employer found out, they have offered me a similar contract but I can't make myself sign it. They are beginning to get restless since we're closing in on EOY and we're on track for another good finish, possibly our best. On the other hand, the two other companies are much more prestigious and offer a much higher ceiling for my career. Both companies are located in nicer cities as well. (I pretend to love the town I'm in now but it's kind of a dump). Now, what would you do in my situation? Go for more and scratch the itch? Or settle for what I have now and wonder what-if? Even though this is a long post, I hope I get some helpful input!
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ckDOG

Nov 12, 4:18 PM

Sounds like your mind is made up and you are looking for validation to pull the trigger. How old are you and do you have young children? My advice would be do whatever you think is best for your family.
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GloryDawg

Nov 12, 4:20 PM

You need to stay where you are if they are matching the other offers. You know your situation there and you do not know what kind of situation you will be at the new job. I bounced around until I found my current job 24 years ago. Usually, the grass is not greener. So, if you have any doubts, you better stay where you are, and other offers will come up again in the future. Not that i like ole miss.
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OG Goat Holder

Nov 12, 4:21 PM

It's actually very simple. If you continue to win in your 2025 performance plan, you kinda have to stick around. If you stumble in a couple of weeks and don't win that last contract against your former colleague, you probably fall short of your metric. You'd be best to test the waters in a Florida-area market at that time.
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BulldawgFan

Nov 12, 4:21 PM

ckDOG said:
Sounds like your mind is made up and you are looking for validation to pull the trigger. How old are you and do you have young children? My advice would be do whatever you think is best for your family.
I am 50. I have a son who is starting QB in high school but I don’t mind uprooting him. I have a daughter attending university in the town I’m in but she's dating a guy that lives in one of the towns I'm considering. My reconciled ex-wife grew up in the other town I'm considering.
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ckDOG

Nov 12, 4:24 PM

Oh wait. This went over my head. Woooooosh
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dawgstudent

Nov 12, 4:25 PM

That's hilarious. I had to read it again to get it.
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40 acres and a mule

Nov 12, 4:26 PM

My experience is that it is better to be in a job where you are respected and appreciated than some others with more "perks". Edited to add: Crap I get it now. Damn I am old. You should leave.
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17itdawg

Nov 12, 4:28 PM

BulldawgFan said:
Let me start by saying that I currently serve in the C-Suite of a company that was struggling before my arrival nearly 6 years ago. Without giving too much away this is in an industry that is hyper-competitive with lots of turnover. A bragger I am not, but I've almost single-handedly led us to unprecedent success that the company hasn't seen in over 60 years. I've been able to consistently recruit the best talent and put them in positions to succeed and it's worked great. Not to say that I'm perfect because I'm certainly not, I am extremely ambitious and earlier in my career I was fired or left abruptly from every company I worked for. But the company I'm at now took a chance on me and it's helped me to turn my life around. I've stopped drinking and my ex-wife and I are even reconciling. Enough time has passed and I feel like I've reached my ceiling at my current company. I'm proud of what I've accomplished but I feel dissatisfied and can't help wanting more. I like my current company but don't love it, and I will probably have this job as long as I want - no matter the results going forward. Hell, they'll probably build a statue of me before it's all said and done. So here's the kicker: There have been two larger competitors that have recently had jobs come open and they both are actively pursuing me. I've been in discussions with them since last month and both are making offers that would make me the highest paid in my position in the entire country. Given that my current employer found out, they have offered me a similar contract but I can't make myself sign it. They are beginning to get restless since we're closing in on EOY and we're on track for another good finish, possibly our best. On the other hand, the two other companies are much more prestigious and offer a much higher ceiling for my career. Both companies are located in nicer cities as well. (I pretend to love the town I'm in now but it's kind of a dump). Now, what would you do in my situation? Go for more and scratch the itch? Or settle for what I have now and wonder what-if? Even though this is a long post, I hope I get some helpful input!
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Dawg Raid

Nov 12, 4:28 PM

Sounds like a certain job in Florida is really catching your attention. Stock holders in the company are buying in with rumbling of your consideration.
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dawgman42

Nov 12, 4:28 PM

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bulldognation

Nov 12, 4:29 PM

I think I’d take either one of the better opportunities, toss up a couple middle fingers and burn down the current program in my wake. Oh, and of course I’d make sure my current playe… er… employees I’ve recruited would have a comfy transfer process to my new program.
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Willow Grove Dawg

Nov 12, 4:31 PM

I hate that I can only give this post one LIKE. Posts like this are the reason I continue to frequent this here message board. Ideally without notice you would not attend your last corporate event of the year scheduled for the day after Thanksgiving. This action would probably help you overcome the remaining emotional issues after being fired on the tarmac exiting the plane years ago.
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YesIAmAPirate

Nov 12, 4:31 PM

Sounds like you've maxed out in your current industry. Try looking to go up a level and see what you can do in that sector
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johnson86-1

Nov 12, 4:38 PM

BulldawgFan said:
Let me start by saying that I currently serve in the C-Suite of a company that was struggling before my arrival nearly 6 years ago. Without giving too much away this is in an industry that is hyper-competitive with lots of turnover. A bragger I am not, but I've almost single-handedly led us to unprecedent success that the company hasn't seen in over 60 years. I've been able to consistently recruit the best talent and put them in positions to succeed and it's worked great. Not to say that I'm perfect because I'm certainly not, I am extremely ambitious and earlier in my career I was fired or left abruptly from every company I worked for. But the company I'm at now took a chance on me and it's helped me to turn my life around. I've stopped drinking and my ex-wife and I are even reconciling. Enough time has passed and I feel like I've reached my ceiling at my current company. I'm proud of what I've accomplished but I feel dissatisfied and can't help wanting more. I like my current company but don't love it, and I will probably have this job as long as I want - no matter the results going forward. Hell, they'll probably build a statue of me before it's all said and done. So here's the kicker: There have been two larger competitors that have recently had jobs come open and they both are actively pursuing me. I've been in discussions with them since last month and both are making offers that would make me the highest paid in my position in the entire country. Given that my current employer found out, they have offered me a similar contract but I can't make myself sign it. They are beginning to get restless since we're closing in on EOY and we're on track for another good finish, possibly our best. On the other hand, the two other companies are much more prestigious and offer a much higher ceiling for my career. Both companies are located in nicer cities as well. (I pretend to love the town I'm in now but it's kind of a dump). Now, what would you do in my situation? Go for more and scratch the itch? Or settle for what I have now and wonder what-if? Even though this is a long post, I hope I get some helpful input!
ETA: DAMMIT That went completely over my head. I'm an idiot Not nearly enough information to get helpful advice beyond the generalized "do what's best for your family" advice (which is good advice, but not necessarily helpful when you're trying to figure out what's best for your family). But besides the obvious questions (age, number and age of children if any, salary (i.e., if you're talking about numbers that will set you in 5 years, that's different from numbers that will require you to keep working for 15), etc.), you should be considering whether you are capable of being happy/satisfied right now. There are lots of people that for whatever reason are never happy/satisfied. I don't mean in the positive sense of always striving for better, but just have internal issues that they keep trying to solve by changing external circumstances. It sounds like maybe in the past your issues with leaving abruptly had to do with drinking, but is that all that it was? Or is this basically a 6 year itch that kind of stems from the same issues? Ignoring that, talking about being in a nicer town/city is a big deal at the low end but overrated at the high end. In other words, ignoring family connections and ignoring strong personal preferences (e.g., people who love snow or water skiing should live where they can make that happen, people who love the beach should live where they can make that happen, etc), getting out of Greenville, MS to go to even say, Hattiesburg, is a big deal. Going from Hattiesburg to Birmingham is going to be less so for most people. Similarly, if being in a city is a strong preference, going from Birmingham to Charlotte will probably be a big improvement; going from Charlotte to NYC is probably not. If you really don't like where you live and are sure it's not dissatisfaction coming from something internal, I would move somewhere I liked more. But I would also not underestimate the benefits of living in the same place as family. That's a big deal when people are sick or you otherwise need help or need to give help, plus there is a lot to be said for being able to enjoy holidays with family not burdened by a bunch of travel.
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MoronDawg

Nov 12, 4:47 PM

You should go for it. You can always fly back on your private jet if you get the hankering for some cold chicken tenders.
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RBcoach

Nov 12, 4:47 PM

Is that you Brian Kelley?
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dawgman42

Nov 12, 4:52 PM

BulldawgFan said:
Let me start by saying that I currently serve in the C-Suite of a company that was struggling before my arrival nearly 6 years ago. Without giving too much away this is in an industry that is hyper-competitive with lots of turnover. A bragger I am not, but I've almost single-handedly led us to unprecedent success that the company hasn't seen in over 60 years. I've been able to consistently recruit the best talent and put them in positions to succeed and it's worked great. Not to say that I'm perfect because I'm certainly not, I am extremely ambitious and earlier in my career I was fired or left abruptly from every company I worked for. But the company I'm at now took a chance on me and it's helped me to turn my life around. I've stopped drinking and my ex-wife and I are even reconciling. Enough time has passed and I feel like I've reached my ceiling at my current company. I'm proud of what I've accomplished but I feel dissatisfied and can't help wanting more. I like my current company but don't love it, and I will probably have this job as long as I want - no matter the results going forward. Hell, they'll probably build a statue of me before it's all said and done. So here's the kicker: There have been two larger competitors that have recently had jobs come open and they both are actively pursuing me. I've been in discussions with them since last month and both are making offers that would make me the highest paid in my position in the entire country. Given that my current employer found out, they have offered me a similar contract but I can't make myself sign it. They are beginning to get restless since we're closing in on EOY and we're on track for another good finish, possibly our best. On the other hand, the two other companies are much more prestigious and offer a much higher ceiling for my career. Both companies are located in nicer cities as well. (I pretend to love the town I'm in now but it's kind of a dump). Now, what would you do in my situation? Go for more and scratch the itch? Or settle for what I have now and wonder what-if? Even though this is a long post, I hope I get some helpful input!
Good for you to gather some advice from this group, sir! Have you considered similar positions in Florida for some possible tax benefits at your level?
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gtowndawg

Nov 12, 4:53 PM

If you take the better paying job, give 1/2 to NIL. That's all I ask.
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aTotal360

Nov 12, 4:53 PM

Beanie Babies
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msugrad2003

Nov 12, 4:59 PM

BulldawgFan said:
Let me start by saying that I currently serve in the C-Suite of a company that was struggling before my arrival nearly 6 years ago. Without giving too much away this is in an industry that is hyper-competitive with lots of turnover. A bragger I am not, but I've almost single-handedly led us to unprecedent success that the company hasn't seen in over 60 years. I've been able to consistently recruit the best talent and put them in positions to succeed and it's worked great. Not to say that I'm perfect because I'm certainly not, I am extremely ambitious and earlier in my career I was fired or left abruptly from every company I worked for. But the company I'm at now took a chance on me and it's helped me to turn my life around. I've stopped drinking and my ex-wife and I are even reconciling. Enough time has passed and I feel like I've reached my ceiling at my current company. I'm proud of what I've accomplished but I feel dissatisfied and can't help wanting more. I like my current company but don't love it, and I will probably have this job as long as I want - no matter the results going forward. Hell, they'll probably build a statue of me before it's all said and done. So here's the kicker: There have been two larger competitors that have recently had jobs come open and they both are actively pursuing me. I've been in discussions with them since last month and both are making offers that would make me the highest paid in my position in the entire country. Given that my current employer found out, they have offered me a similar contract but I can't make myself sign it. They are beginning to get restless since we're closing in on EOY and we're on track for another good finish, possibly our best. On the other hand, the two other companies are much more prestigious and offer a much higher ceiling for my career. Both companies are located in nicer cities as well. (I pretend to love the town I'm in now but it's kind of a dump). Now, what would you do in my situation? Go for more and scratch the itch? Or settle for what I have now and wonder what-if? Even though this is a long post, I hope I get some helpful input!
Lane? Is that you?
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MagnoliaHunter

Nov 12, 5:02 PM

BulldawgFan said:
Let me start by saying that I currently serve in the C-Suite of a company that was struggling before my arrival nearly 6 years ago. Without giving too much away this is in an industry that is hyper-competitive with lots of turnover. A bragger I am not, but I've almost single-handedly led us to unprecedent success that the company hasn't seen in over 60 years. I've been able to consistently recruit the best talent and put them in positions to succeed and it's worked great. Not to say that I'm perfect because I'm certainly not, I am extremely ambitious and earlier in my career I was fired or left abruptly from every company I worked for. But the company I'm at now took a chance on me and it's helped me to turn my life around. I've stopped drinking and my ex-wife and I are even reconciling. Enough time has passed and I feel like I've reached my ceiling at my current company. I'm proud of what I've accomplished but I feel dissatisfied and can't help wanting more. I like my current company but don't love it, and I will probably have this job as long as I want - no matter the results going forward. Hell, they'll probably build a statue of me before it's all said and done. So here's the kicker: There have been two larger competitors that have recently had jobs come open and they both are actively pursuing me. I've been in discussions with them since last month and both are making offers that would make me the highest paid in my position in the entire country. Given that my current employer found out, they have offered me a similar contract but I can't make myself sign it. They are beginning to get restless since we're closing in on EOY and we're on track for another good finish, possibly our best. On the other hand, the two other companies are much more prestigious and offer a much higher ceiling for my career. Both companies are located in nicer cities as well. (I pretend to love the town I'm in now but it's kind of a dump). Now, what would you do in my situation? Go for more and scratch the itch? Or settle for what I have now and wonder what-if? Even though this is a long post, I hope I get some helpful input!
Congratulations sir. You have won the internet for the day.
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OopsICroomedmypants

Nov 12, 5:03 PM

Sounds to me like you need to politely thank your current employer for their loyalty and drive aimlessly southeast until you find a place to watch dolphins play.
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CochiseCowbell

Nov 12, 5:16 PM

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dawgman42

Nov 12, 5:17 PM

I wondered if this was the company you currently worked for, but I didn't see that "high turnover" would be part of the equation here.

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