2-team football playoff? Nah!

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

Using the numbers in CBS Sports’ Tom Fornelli article the conclusion doesn’t wash.

The average margin of victory in the BCS and the current playoff championship game is almost identical.

What’s the problem?

Well, take March Madness as an example.

The brainchild of Ohio State’s Harold Olsen in 1939 began with 8 teams, expanded to 16 in 1951, then to 32 in 1975 and finally to 64 in 1982 – with 32 Division 1 conference champs getting automatic bids -- and later 4 play-in teams were added.

Adding teams to the playoffs made it exponentially better and the best college sports tournament in America!

A free-for-all is exceedingly more interesting than only 2 teams settling the national title. The more the merrier and it lets players settle it on the field rather than a comittee deciding how many teams are losers without playing.

The writer goes in the wrong direction. EVERY Power-5 conference champ should be in the National Football Playoffs, which kinda would imitate the BCS. That way, polls by coaches and writers could only manipulate 3 teams if there’s an 8-team playoff.

Manipulators currently with power would hate it, but fans would love it!

It's time to consider contracting the College Football Playoff back to just two teams - CBSSports.com

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

Then we are back to the same ******** as before


The CFP will extend and possibly raise the level of programs.

Florida State 1994-2001.
USC 2002-2009

They missed out on a few NC in the system
A team like Alabama isn't. They can get in as a #4 seed like in 2017 and win a NC

With the BCS that would have been Clemson vs Georgia.


Have to raise the level and get in there like what Clemson has done.
Clemson/Alabama have a strangle hold.
Clemson looks like they possibly have slipped
Ohio State had their chance. But they have their own issues.

You have to take advantage of the current system.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

Then we are back to the same ******** as before


The CFP will extend and possibly raise the level of programs.

Florida State 1994-2001.
USC 2002-2009

They missed out on a few NC in the system
A team like Alabama isn't. They can get in as a #4 seed like in 2017 and win a NC

With the BCS that would have been Clemson vs Georgia.


Have to raise the level and get in there like what Clemson has done.
Clemson/Alabama have a strangle hold.
Clemson looks like they possibly have slipped
Ohio State had their chance. But they have their own issues.

You have to take advantage of the current system.

"You have to take advantage of the current system."

Those who do the best job always win more often.

Those who don't complain about the rules.

 

[locustwv]

This new playoff system has destroyed the other bowl games.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

Disagree.

Have to understand the history of CFB.
The polls were finalized before the bowl games up until the early 1970's.
First the AP changed their policy and then the UPI/coaches poll.

They were exhibitions.

Even after that the status of the bowl game was determined by if a team was playing a NC or not.

The bowl games that didn't have teams playing by a NC were always determined by what teams wanted it more.


Nothing really has changed recently except for players opting out.

We can go around and around about that. But I think it is a great idea because you want to get other players snaps.


Always going to have fanbases who will try to control the narrative if they Lose.


Funny thing is if they win...That narrative isn't there.


This is for recruiting purposes. Have to create a ******** narrative so your recruiting doesn't get hurt.

 

[tOSUaluminWVa]

A team like Alabama isn't. They can get in as a #4 seed like in 2017 and win a NC

Ohio State had their chance. But they have their own issues.

More puke from the fake Texas fan's ***** mouth. Ohio State was the #4 seed and won the National Championship in 2014-15. You must not have been able to afford a TV, computer, or cell phone by then, so I understand.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

More puke from the fake Texas fan's ***** mouth. Ohio State was the #4 seed and won the National Championship in 2014-15. You must not been able to afford a TV, computer, or cell phone by then, so I understand.

Talking about last year...

Ohio State had their chance against Alabama to establish themselves last year

Winning 1 NC didn't establish yourself because it has been Alabama/Clemson 5 out of the other 6 years

Just the truth....
This isn't an Ohio State message board. Get back into your bubble if you want comfort.

 

[tOSUaluminWVa]

Talking about last year...

Ohio State had their chance against Alabama to establish themselves last year

Winning 1 NC didn't establish yourself because it has been Alabama/Clemson 5 out of the other 6 years

Just the truth....
This isn't an Ohio State message board. Get back into your bubble if you want comfort.

The truth is that you're an imbecile who pretends that Ohio State didn't beat Alabama and Oregon to win the first CFP title. You're a fake Texas fan, who is a disgrace to Mountaineer Nation, and, guess what team throttled Clemson this past season? O for the CFP should be enough to shut your mouth, but you're shameless.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

The truth is that you're an imbecile who pretends that Ohio State didn't beat Alabama and Oregon to win the first CFP title. You're a fake Texas fan, who is a disgrace to Mountaineer Nation.

You are obnoxious. Stay on an Ohio State board if you want to hear false narratives.
Alabama and Clemson both have established themselves as the premier programs.

Possibly Clemson has fallen. We will see.

But Ohio State isn't in the conversation.
LSU won a NC as well....

LSU would be there every year if they played in the Big Ten...

Even with 2014 Ohio State hasn't proven itself capable of playing with the premier programs.

The CFP has helped extend and strengthen both Alabama's and Clemson's run.

Would have done the same thing with Florida State in the 1990's and USC in the 2000s

 

[tOSUaluminWVa]

What are you going to do about it, troll? The fake Texas fan continues to bash the only college football program that has beaten both Alabama and Clemson in the CFP, as his conference hasn't won a single CFP game. Not one.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

If you want people to accept the truth you must do as well...

Ohio State hasn't established itself anywhere close to where Alabama and Clemson have been.

Your 1 NC doesn't mean ****...

That was the point. You are reacting. Sounding like a clown because you are reading something you don't agree with on a WVU message board....


The CFP has helped Alabama and Clemson...

Period. End of discussion.

I don't have an issue with it because both programs have their own issues.

Good chance in 5-10 years we will see 1-2 other programs take over.

But the CFP will be pretty similar. Extending and rasing the level of winning programs.


Good thing we didn't have a CFP with USC.
But the NCAA pushed them over.

Alabama will probably self destruct when Saban retires

 

[Rootmaster]

Bunch of fake wvu fans arguing about other teams. Too f.....ing funny.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

If you want people to accept the truth you must do as well...

Ohio State hasn't established itself anywhere close to where Alabama and Clemson have been.

Your 1 NC doesn't mean ****...

That was the point. You are reacting. Sounding like a clown because you are reading something you don't agree with on a WVU message board....


The CFP has helped Alabama and Clemson...

Period. End of discussion.

I don't have an issue with it because both programs have their own issues.

Good chance in 5-10 years we will see 1-2 other programs take over.

But the CFP will be pretty similar. Extending and rasing the level of winning programs.


Good thing we didn't have a CFP with USC.
But the NCAA pushed them over.

Alabama will probably self destruct when Saban retires

"Alabama will probably self destruct when Saban retires"

Let’s check the numbers, my favorite pastime:

J.W. H. Pollard (1906-09) was the best in Alabama football at .783 till Wallace Wade (.812 in 1923-30) and Frank Thomas (.812 in 1931-46) came along.

Things sagged for 11 years till Bear Bryant came aboard and went .824 in 1958-82.

Nobody approached Bear till Nick “Brother” Saban arrived in 2007, TWENTY FIVE YEARS LATER, and is .874, better even than Bear.

Saban is the modern Bear Bryant so your statement sounds pretty, well, sound to me. But, then, like Saban, I am a Monongah High graduate so I am biased about Brother.

Tide fans certainly hope it doesn't take 25 years to again find a Bear/Brother to pursue victories and national titles.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

"Alabama will probably self destruct when Saban retires"

Let’s check the numbers, my favorite pastime:

J.W. H. Pollard (1906-09) was the best in Alabama football at .783 till Wallace Wade (.812 in 1923-30) and Frank Thomas (.812 in 1931-46) came along.

Things sagged for 11 years till Bear Bryant came aboard and went .824 in 1958-82.

Nobody approached Bear till Nick “Brother” Saban arrived in 2007, TWENTY FIVE YEARS LATER, and is .874, better even than Bear.

Saban is the modern Bear Bryant so your statement sounds pretty, well, sound to me. But, then, like Saban, I am a Monongah High graduate so I am biased about Brother.

Tide fans certainly hope it doesn't take 25 years to again find a Bear/Brother to pursue victories and national titles.

You know what people say about Texas Boosters...
Red Elephant Club is just as bad. They didn't even give Mike Price a chance. Ran his *** out of Tuscaloosa.

Saban was man enough and had the resume to get them to shut up.

 

[Pitt4Life34]

More puke from the fake Texas fan's ***** mouth. Ohio State was the #4 seed and won the National Championship in 2014-15. You must not have been able to afford a TV, computer, or cell phone by then, so I understand.

@Cuyahoga Falls Eers @TownesVanZandt ^^^^^^^^^^^^^checkmake! No argument for 2 team playoff system can overcome The King‘s master point. So in the terms of the greatest game ever created...........CHECKMATE!

 

[Pitt4Life34]

If you want people to accept the truth you must do as well...

Ohio State hasn't established itself anywhere close to where Alabama and Clemson have been.

Your 1 NC doesn't mean ****...

That was the point. You are reacting. Sounding like a clown because you are reading something you don't agree with on a WVU message board....


The CFP has helped Alabama and Clemson...

Period. End of discussion.

I don't have an issue with it because both programs have their own issues.

Good chance in 5-10 years we will see 1-2 other programs take over.

But the CFP will be pretty similar. Extending and rasing the level of winning programs.


Good thing we didn't have a CFP with USC.
But the NCAA pushed them over.

Alabama will probably self destruct when Saban retires

Just so we understand you intellectually............“I can’t dent your point so your NC doesn‘t mean ****” says our local racist moron. What a tool you are.

 

[Pitt4Life34]

Talking about last year...

Ohio State had their chance against Alabama to establish themselves last year

Winning 1 NC didn't establish yourself because it has been Alabama/Clemson 5 out of the other 6 years

Just the truth....
This isn't an Ohio State message board. Get back into your bubble if you want comfort.

This isn’t a Texas message board. Get back into your bubble if you want comfort.

 

[Pitt4Life34]

The truth is that you're an imbecile who pretends that Ohio State didn't beat Alabama and Oregon to win the first CFP title. You're a fake Texas fan, who is a disgrace to Mountaineer Nation, and, guess what team throttled Clemson this past season? O for the CFP should be enough to shut your mouth, but you're shameless.

Wow! I check to entertain myself and walked right into a beatdown. Man are you owning @TownesVanZandt

 

[Pitt4Life34]

You are obnoxious. Stay on an Ohio State board if you want to hear false narratives.
Alabama and Clemson both have established themselves as the premier programs.

Possibly Clemson has fallen. We will see.

But Ohio State isn't in the conversation.
LSU won a NC as well....

LSU would be there every year if they played in the Big Ten...

Even with 2014 Ohio State hasn't proven itself capable of playing with the premier programs.

The CFP has helped extend and strengthen both Alabama's and Clemson's run.

Would have done the same thing with Florida State in the 1990's and USC in the 2000s

You are obnoxious. Stay on a Texas board if you want to hear false narratives.

Anyone arguing Ohio St isn’t one of college football’s premier programs can only be viewed as, in the words @Cuyahoga Falls Eers would say, a real dickhead.

 

[tOSUaluminWVa]

Greg destroys TrollVanZandt and his ZERO CFP wins. Well done, sir.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

Someone is triggered.

Ohio State isn't on the level of Alabama nor Clemson in the CFP.

Therefore they aren't one of the premier programs yet.

Same with LSU. LSUs was more recent.


People feel like Ohio State would probably lose 3-4 games a year in the SEC.

 

[Pitt4Life34]

"Alabama will probably self destruct when Saban retires"

Let’s check the numbers, my favorite pastime:

J.W. H. Pollard (1906-09) was the best in Alabama football at .783 till Wallace Wade (.812 in 1923-30) and Frank Thomas (.812 in 1931-46) came along.

Things sagged for 11 years till Bear Bryant came aboard and went .824 in 1958-82.

Nobody approached Bear till Nick “Brother” Saban arrived in 2007, TWENTY FIVE YEARS LATER, and is .874, better even than Bear.

Saban is the modern Bear Bryant so your statement sounds pretty, well, sound to me. But, then, like Saban, I am a Monongah High graduate so I am biased about Brother.

Tide fans certainly hope it doesn't take 25 years to again find a Bear/Brother to pursue victories and national titles.

Ummm ya left out Bill Curry winning over .700% of his games coached in the 80s and Gene Stallings winning over .700% of his games coached in the 90s. Oh I believe you also overlooked a National Tittle in the 90. Listen Mam this site doesn’t tolerate false narratives and poor research. I realize your background isn’t impressive and you cut teeth at a **** local small town paper but you’re gonna need to up your game if you’re gonna be serious about journalism. Time is running out on your career. Step up or step aside.

 

[tOSUaluminWVa]

LSU has made ONE CFP appearance, and won TWO more CFP games than the entire Big 12 conference. Greg owns ***** mouth TrollVanZandt.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

They aren't in the sorry *** B1G

Did you see Ole Miss smash Indiana in the bowl game.

You are obnoxious. Just be happy Ohio State is in a trash conference.

Free ride to the CFP

 

[tOSUaluminWVa]

The winningest Division I football program hails from Columbus, Ohio and has a .730 winning percentage. Texas still hasn't made its first CFP appearance. Eat a bag of d!cks, fraudulent Texas fan TrollVanZandt.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

Like I said obnoxious..

Should actually do something people pumping out your chest.
Until then you still.are Ohio State. The team who can't ever win

 

[tOSUaluminWVa]

Can't ever win? Ha ha, dork VanZandt can't process the best winning percentage in history and 8 national campionships. It sucks to be a fake Texas fan.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

Big Ten has won 2 1/2 NC in 50 years.

As bad as they are in basketball they are even more irrelevant in football...

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

Since 1990

The conference has won 3 1/2 NC in the three major sports..

0 in baseball
1 in basketball
2 1/2 in baseball

I don't get why you run your mouth so much.

 

[Rootmaster]

Hey Talmadgeer...or CFE...see you are still placing exact cut and paste posts all over all the competition forums...including this one. Changing the headline is a good touch. However this self plagiarizing approach confirms that you both a fraud and attention needy *****. You are disliked the same regardless however.

 

[Pitt4Life34]

Someone is triggered.

Ohio State isn't on the level of Alabama nor Clemson in the CFP.

Therefore they aren't one of the premier programs yet.

Same with LSU. LSUs was more recent.


People feel like Ohio State would probably lose 3-4 games a year in the SEC.

”People”
You really are a dickhead.
Ultimate Straw Man Argument here boys. You are literally forwarding the most bogus argument I’ve ever seen online. So when the Steelers won 4 Super Bowls in the 70s the Cowboys and Raiders weren’t premier franchises. I guess when Jordan was running roughshod over the NBA no other premier NBA teams. When Gretzky owned the NHL according to you....no other icemen worthy. I mean think about this one Texas. Coming into this year the ACC won 5 of past 10 Natties with 3 different teams. So a week ago according to your argument no other conference except for SEC would be considered a premier hoop conference.

I‘ve boxed you in easily straw man. Don’t look stupid and move the goalposts. Better yet puppet ignore the beating I just put on you, google a bunch of irrelevant crap, and start arguing with yourself. Off ya go puppet.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

”People”
You really are a dickhead.
Ultimate Straw Man Argument here boys. Your are literally forwarding the most bogus argument I’ve ever seen online. So when the Steelers won 4 Super Bowls in the 70s the Cowboys and Raiders weren’t premier franchises. I guess when Jordan was running roughshod over the NBA no other premier NBA teams. When Gretzky owned the NHL according to you....no other icemen worthy. I mean think about this one Texas. Coming into this year the ACC won 5 of past 10 Natties with 3 different teams. So a week ago according to your argument no other conference except for SEC would be considered a premier hoop conference.

I‘ve boxed you in easily straw man. Don’t look stupid and move the goalposts. Better yet puppet ignore the beating I just put on you, google a bunch of irrelevant crap, and start arguing with yourself. Off ya go puppet.

Read a lot of junk ..

Regarding the ACC...
It has always been the premier basketball conference...

It is a basketball conference in a football world. Probably the biggest issue for the conference.


I think I have said this before..
I have a lot of old college football preview magazines.

In the 1970's even the National ones.

Would have back to back pages talking about the PAC 8, Big 8, SWC, SEC and Big Ten

Then 1/2 page for the ACC with the WAC in the back

This is why a lot of us would take football coaches from the ACC.

When it came to basketball it was legit. No conference was on their level.

Financially they are slipping right now. Trying to compete in both sports Because football is where the money is at.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

Jimbo leaving Florida State really hurt that conference...

But it is what the biggest issue for the ACC is
They have to chase the SEC financially. As of right now the SEC has to chase Texas financially.

 

[Pitt4Life34]

Read a lot of junk ..

Regarding the ACC...
It has always been the premier basketball conference...

It is a basketball conference in a football world. Probably the biggest issue for the conference.


I think I have said this before..
I have a lot of old college football preview magazines.

In the 1970's even the National ones.

Would have back to back pages talking about the PAC 8, Big 8, SWC, SEC and Big Ten

Then 1/2 page for the ACC with the WAC in the back

This is why a lot of us would take football coaches from the ACC.

When it came to basketball it was legit. No conference was on their level.

Financially they are slipping right now. Trying to compete in both sports Because football is where the money is at.

Wait isn’t the Big 12 the only P5 Conference without a playoff win? Wait isn’t the Big 12 the P5 Conference that lost 3 programs with one being a former Blue Blood football program? Wait until this year wasn’t the Big 12 hoops Kansas and then who cares. Wait isn’t the Big 12 football still Oklahoma and then who care. Nothing is more humorous to me than when you post so authoritatively yet we all know what a googling blowhard you are. When you try to make your irrelevant opinion seem like facts it really does make me giggle. You are funny like a clown.

You gotta admit I blew your straw man argument up there skip no? I can always tell when your defeated. You ignore the butt whippin and post into oblivion about out in left field stuff.

I guess you missed the FSU and Clemson Natties versus not one playoff win for Big 12. No worries. I won’t tell anyone

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

Wait isn’t the Big 12 the only P5 Conference without a playoff win? Wait isn’t the Big 12 the P5 Conference that lost 3 programs with one being a former Blue Blood football program? Wait until this year wasn’t the Big 12 hoops Kansas and then who cares. Wait isn’t the Big 12 football still Oklahoma and then who care. Nothing is more humorous to me than when you post so authoritatively yet we all know what a googling blowhard you are. When you try to make your irrelevant opinion seem like facts it really does make me giggle. You are funny like a clown.

You gotta admit I blew your straw man argument up there skip no? I can always tell when your defeated. You ignore the butt whippin and post into oblivion about out in left field stuff.

I guess you missed the FSU and Clemson Natties versus not one playoff win for Big 12. No worries. I won’t tell anyone

The bottom line says different...$$$$ is what determines relevance

People in the Northeast don't care about College Sports.
Who cares what they think

Obviously there isn't enough of them to dictate anything. Need to get out of your bubble, brother.


I get it you hate WVU so therefore hate the Big 12.

Same stupidity that Pitt fans had with the Big East.
Big East was a premier basketball conference but it wasn't enough to save them.

WVU attached themselves to a financially stable conference why Pitt attached themselves to the Big East 2.0

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

Just the sad thing with the internet...

People live in their made up little world. Creates bubbles where stupidity reigns


ACC has major financial issues. Almost as many as the PAC. But if you also add the fact that they are competiting against the B1G and SEC in TV markets it makes them even bigger

At least people in N Carolina recognize this.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.es...aces-big-challenges-easy-answers?platform=amp

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

ESPN has a plan.
They value certain states because they don't just have an interest in college sports but they have the talent.

We will see.

Comes down to WVU and Pitt. Good thing Texas has leverage.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

You know what people say about Texas Boosters...
Red Elephant Club is just as bad. They didn't even give Mike Price a chance. Ran his *** out of Tuscaloosa.

Saban was man enough and had the resume to get them to shut up.

MIKE PRICE DIDN'T HAVE THE ADVANTAGE OF BEING A MONONGAH HIGH GRADUATE, LIKE BROTHER AND ME. SABAN WAS QUARTERBACK OF THE 1968 LIONS TEAM THAT WON THE WEST VIRGINIA HIGH SCHOOL CHAMPIONSHIP. NICK'S FATHER COACHED CHILDREN'S FOOTBALL AND BASEBALL, BOUGHT A BEAT-UP BUS TO TRANSPORT THE PLAYERS TO THE GAMES AND PROVIDED GLOVES TO THOSE TOO POOR TO AFFORD THEM AND MADE HIS SON WASH CARS AT DAD'S SERVICE STATION. THAT GAVE NICK SABAN THE WORK ETHIC, COMPASSION FOR THOSE LESS FORTUNATE THAT HE CARRIES OUT TODAY WITH MILLIONS FOR CHILDREN IN POVERTY. APPLE DOESN'T FALL FAR FROM THE TREE.

 

[muthed]

MIKE PRICE DIDN'T HAVE THE ADVANTAGE OF BEING A MONONGAH HIGH GRADUATE, LIKE BROTHER AND ME. SABAN WAS QUARTERBACK OF THE 1968 LIONS TEAM THAT WON THE WEST VIRGINIA HIGH SCHOOL CHAMPIONSHIP. NICK'S FATHER COACHED CHILDREN'S FOOTBALL AND BASEBALL, BOUGHT A BEAT-UP BUS TO TRANSPORT THE PLAYERS TO THE GAMES AND PROVIDED GLOVES TO THOSE TOO POOR TO AFFORD THEM AND MADE HIS SON WASH CARS AT DAD'S SERVICE STATION. THAT GAVE NICK SABAN THE WORK ETHIC, COMPASSION FOR THOSE LESS FORTUNATE THAT HE CARRIES OUT TODAY WITH MILLIONS FOR CHILDREN IN POVERTY. APPLE DOESN'T FALL FAR FROM THE TREE.

CFE, you keep harping about your love for "brother" Saban. Where's your love for your beloved n'eer coaches?

 

[WVUALLEN]

This new playoff system has destroyed the other bowl games.

They also have locked out the G5 schools and none blue bloods from a realistic shot at playoffs.