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CatDaddy4daWin

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Receivers have absolutely killed me this week. Had Percy Harvin, Moncrief, and Witten at TE. Total of 1 point. My only hope is Beckham tonight.
 

dezyDeco

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Friggin' Steelers.

 

Bodvar Bjarki

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The goal line reception where hitting a defenseless player was called on the 2nd to last play with 5 seconds left... that stopped the clock.

Anyway, if the 2nd tackler doesn't come up and put a hit on that receiver then the receiver spins and scores easily? What in the hell was the defender supposed to do? That was a great football play and I don't understand that call. That roughness was completely necessary. It prevented the receiver from making it into the endzone.
 
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That's a HUGE win for the Steelers. Would be 2-0 with Vick if it weren't for a pathetic kicker. Should have Ben back for Cinci in a couple weeks...
 

Bodvar Bjarki

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I think the Steelers would have gone for the win regardless.
No doubt. The call didn't have any effect other than stopping the clock which saved them a TO... but I was screaming at the TV "WHAT IN THE F(*^ DO YOU EXPECT HIM TO DO, LET THE RECEIVER FALL INTO THE ENDZONE?"
 

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I see on some other boards where the refs didn't give the Steelers around :18 on the last kickoff when there was a touchback. The clock ran from 2:56 to 2:38 on the TV and was never added back on. Could have been TV syncing up with the official clock.
 

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The Mariota kid looks great. I thought he was going to be a little on the soft side but I have been very impressed.
 

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Titans proving once again it doesn't make any difference who their quarterback is, they are just plain bad.
 

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The Cowboys will do well to win any games with Weeden at qb. I think all the Romo bashers are finding out what it's really going to be like when he's gone. Dallas has not drafted a halfway decent qb since 89.

Always amazes me to hear people bash Romo. There's not that many QBs I'd take over him and over half the league would love to have him.
 

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The final test of a great QB is can they win in the post-season. Romo has not shown the ability to hoist the team on his back and deliver in that situation yet. It's called Andy Dalton-ism.
 

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Titans proving once again it doesn't make any difference who their quarterback is, they are just plain bad.

I know right? I used to get frustrated because they basically were a bubble team every single yr but now I wish to have those days back.

At least hopefully they have found a franchise QB and can start their build out.
 

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Got to wonder whether Whisehunt is the right man for the job. They got demolished by a HC in his first game.
 

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Man I remember when my Lions were so bad I felt 0-16 was a good thing, you guys have 10x the talent that team did. It's all very young and the core of good teams is not in place which makes it harder for those guys.

If the GM does not upgrade the OL then all that young talent will be wasted!
 

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Got to wonder whether Whisehunt is the right man for the job. They got demolished by a HC in his first game.

I think we're likely stuck with him for the time being. I don't think he's elite by any means but he's not rubbish either. I just think the roster is "that" bad. Whiz has shown that he can coach well if his roster is good.

But right now, we likely would owe him quite a bit to fire him right now. Also, we appear to possibly have a franchise QB. Whiz is really good with QBs. To make a change now "may" be disastrous to Mariota's career.

After making a quick change after Munchak, the roster is in shambles. We need some consistency right now.
 

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Hate the Steelers, but the Landry Jones post-game interview was pretty cool. It isn't often that you get to see a kid who brought zero interview clothes on the trip and had no idea he would ever be in a situation like that have to answer the questions the media throws at him.
 

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Plus I mean if you look at your schedule at this point the only team I would have said Tennessee is a coin flip to beat was Tampa, which you guys won.

Chill! Mariota looks good, Wright, DGB and Walker will be solid, RB isn't great but Andrews just may be able to handle it. The OL and defense in general has to get better, but the defense would benefit from a bit more consistent offense too.
 

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Before the year began I thought this roster was a 4-5 win roster. Mariota may get us to 6.

In the NFL you have to build out for the future.
-while you search for a QB, you gather together a collection of young guys full of promise that project to be players in a few yrs. You don't want to put yourself in salary cap jail when you aren't ready to make playoff runs.
-when you finally have your QB you can lock up the young guys for the future while supplementing the team with veterans.

Right now the Titans appear to have a QB but the roster is at least 2 yrs from making an impact. We will just have to see how good the front office is at building.
 

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The Steelers might be very formidable when Roethlisberger returns. Somehow 2-1 with backup QB's and would be 3-0 if it weren't for Josh Scobee.

Agreed - their defense is really improving and once they get Ben back, their offense may be the best in the league. Their biggest problem will be that they've now lost 2 OL for the year.
 

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Hate the Steelers, but the Landry Jones post-game interview was pretty cool. It isn't often that you get to see a kid who brought zero interview clothes on the trip and had no idea he would ever be in a situation like that have to answer the questions the media throws at him.


Yeah... I don't like them either...

BUT that kid-outta-nowhere interview was pretty good stuff.
 

krazykats

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Whisenhunt fired. Should be an interesting hire coming with a lot of talent in place and a sure fire top 5 pick coming.
 

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"A lot of talent in place?" I'm not sure about that. The roster is young and there are some bright spots, but I wouldn't say there's a lot of talent there.

Also, there is promise in Mariota. If they make the wrong hire, it could completely ruin his future and the future of the franchise.
 

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Mariota, Andrews, Sankey, DGB, Hunter, Wright and Walker is a lot of talent but OL is suspect.

Morgan, Williamson, Orakpo Cox and McCourty is also talent.
 

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Most of the analysts list the Titans RB's as the worst corps in the NFL. Also DGB has potential, but as you can see he's not the go-to guy at all at this stage in his career. Hunter is pretty much a bust.

There are bright spots, but there are a ton of holes........and lacking lots of depth. Currently this is a 5-6 win type of roster.
 

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^That's what I'm afraid of. I don't think Whiz was a good coach, but I don't think he was as bad as some have made it out to be. The best organizations are built from the top-down. The Titans ownership and front office are shaky.....and now they are without a coach.
 

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Whiz was not a good fit at all and once Locker went down and that project failed they haven't had a QB and that is Whiz's main thing.

I'm not saying they are a playoff team but they got pieces that other "bad" teams don't! And those pieces are sometimes hard to come by. With another top pick and a FA acquisition this group could really turn it around and be competitive next year. Remember that division isn't all that great either!
 
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Attempting to see the silver linings:
-The ownership - however it appears as a knee jerk, emotional reaction, to fire Whiz, they did step up and take decisive action. That's at least better than not saying anything at all like they've done all yr.

-The Titans started a 3-4 yr build-out on the roster. It is one of the top 10 youngest rosters with some fair pieces scattered around. They just need to continue the build-out.

-We may have a decent chance for a franchise QB in Mariota. The right hire could pay off big time.
 

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Heard one Titan fan mention that Mike Holmgren has been asking around for potential head coaching positions. He's certainly not a spring chicken anymore, but he'd certainly bring a large measure of stability to an organization that needs some.

Other possibilities include:
-Sean McDermott - DC Carolina.....one of the hottest young DCs in the game. And has watched Newton practice for the last several yrs......he may be in favor of accomodating Mariota.

-Darrell Bevell - OC Seattle. Probably saved Carroll's job when he pushed for them to draft Wilson. Many see Wilson is having a similar game to Mariota.

-Greg Roman - OC Buffalo. Was Harbaugh's OC in SF and drafted Kap.....in favor of a strong running game.
 

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Like I said above, we need someone that can match up with Mariota.

We also are most of the way through a 4-3 to 3-4 defensive roster change. So, we likely need a 3-4 defensive guy........I actually would love to keep LeBeau around for this reason.
 

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Titans can has all the greatest qb's of all time made into one but it won't do them any good if he can't be protected.
 

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Just looked at a 2016 mock and most likely Tennesse is in line to get one of the best OL coming out or Elliot or Treadwell.

Another possibility that isn't projected is Nkemdiche, and I can only imagine him on one side with Morgan/Orakpo on the other.

As far as coaches go, that list sucks! But so would my suggestion of Josh McDaniel but who knows what happens the feast of the year.
 

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Not sure why some of you are saying Whiz isn't a bad coach. He's an absolutely terrible coach. He only had 2 winning seasons in Arizona during his 6 seasons there. And is 4-33 in his last 37 games as a HC. Terrible. This team isn't a Super Bowl contender, but they have enough talent to win their division. And still can this year as crazy as that sounds. The GM will likely be out after the season too. Wasn't even at the podium for the press conference today and it was stated the owner would be in charge of hiring the new HC, not the GM. Change is coming in TN and I love it!!

As far as replacements, my top picks would be Josh McDaniels and Adam Gase. With a long shot of a college guy. Maybe Sumlin or Garry Patterson.
 

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Look up the records of NFL coaches. The best of the best have records barely above .500 and most of their winning records correspond to good QB play. Whiz is no different. When he had Warner and a good roster, he went to the Super Bowl. When he didn't have a QB he did poorly. Teams don't go to the SB without decent leadership. Whiz surely isn't elite but he's not terrible......he's kinda average.

The Titans need stability from somewhere. They don't have it at ownership. They don't have it in the front office. And they kicked out a coaching staff after 23 games.

We are sitting on the cusp of a decent young roster with a potential franchise QB. The ownership just injected more uncertainty into an unstable situation.
 

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His record as a HC is 48-71. Only won around 40% of the games he's coached. Name another even decent HC that has only won 40% of their games. Some guys are just better as coordinators, and that's fine. But a coach isn't gunna always have a future HOF quarterback to run your team. In fact only a handful of coaches in NFL history have ever had one. Gotta coach what you have and find success and Whiz has shown he's not capable of doing that. And I'd rather have uncertainty for the next 9 games, than the next 3 years. Just one more thing to ponder on Whisenhunt. I guarantee you no one else hires him (or even seriously considers him) next year for a HC opening. If that's the case, how good is he really?