Those are not particularly good examples as for both QB and TE we got at least similar replacements and better depth. Coleman/DE is an area of concern though I would grant. OL, DL and LB is where I think the exodus of talent is most worrisome especially since those are positions where injury/attrition can play a big role during the season. I also think we need a higher end player at WR still, but that isn't the result of anyone leaving.
'25 (in-season) - '26 CFB Portal Thread
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Remember those guys also need to want to stay. MC could want them all he can, but if they see greener pastures, there’s not much he can do. Grunk saw he wasn’t going to start here. Reynolds would have been at best TE 3 as a junior. Reports are that Coleman checked out after the OSU game and it is not surprising that he followed Knowles to the Vols. Remember Knowles praised him early, named him the Chasmainian Devil and gave him early playing time. On top of that, BGJ apparently overpaid bench players to keep them loyal and most were looking at a pay cut to stay. Not easy to give back money you thought you were worth.
If no one knew the Lasch Building was packed w "Franklin Loyalists"
If no one knew that not only was it packed with Franklin Loyalists - but that many of those key folks would likely be adios-ing and following Franklin to VT (or wherever he would end up)
If no one knew that they would - obviously
- be "sabotaging" (borrowing your term) in order to benefit their new employerIf no one knew there was a lot of bad blood and COI between program leadership and many key members of the staff
If no one knew those things, then someone(s) was asleep at the wheel.
Given the (lack of) actions taken to mitigate, asleep at the wheel seems to be a reasonable presumption.
What mitigations could have been engaged? Maybe firings (as you said), but maybe not - simply bringing in someone - either the current chieftan, or someone who could be trusted, or whomever - to monitor and control the situation may have been sufficient. A combination of actions, depending on each important aspect of running the program?
In any event, any number of mitigation tactics depending on each situation and the individuals involved. Obviously, that didn't happen.
That failure to mitigate (and to mitigate against the fallout from an action that was taken with deliberation and intent and control over how "the plan" was to be implemented- it is not like some Act of God befell the program out of the blue) was very damaging.
Obviously
So, what are we going to do about this situation now besides whine and b*tch every single day on this bulletin board? What is your end game in discussing this ad nauseum, day after day? Trolling?If no one knew the Lasch Building was packed w "Franklin Loyalists"
If no one knew that not only was it packed with Franklin Loyalists - but that many of those key folks would likely be adios-ing and following Franklin to VT (or wherever he would end up)
If no one knew that they would - obviously
If no one knew there was a lot of bad blood and COI between program leadership and many key members of the staff
If no one knew those things, then someone(s) was asleep at the wheel.
Given the (lack of) actions taken to mitigate, asleep at the wheel seems to be a reasonable presumption.
What mitigations could have been engaged? Maybe firings (as you said), but maybe not - simply bringing in someone - either the current chieftan, or someone who could be trusted, or whomever - to monitor and control the situation may have been sufficient. A combination of actions, depending on each important aspect of running the program?
In any event, any number of mitigation tactics depending on each situation and the individuals involved. Obviously, that didn't happen.
That failure to mitigate (and to mitigate against the fallout from an action that was taken with deliberation and intent and control over how "the plan" was to be implemented- it is not like some Act of God befell the program out of the blue) was very damaging.
Obviously
I thought the school could directly share 20 million in revenue with the team. I also assumed, subject to correction, that the 30 Million total included the 20 million in revenue sharing. Those were assumptions, I could very well be wrong.
Not that simple. There were, how many, 8-10 on the recruiting staff? How many are left? Two, maybe. Replace 75-80% of them and come up to speed in a matter of days/weeks (assuming you can identify who needs to be fired)? Rock and hard place. I probably would have chosen the rock.If no one knew the Lasch Building was packed w "Franklin Loyalists"
If no one knew that not only was it packed with Franklin Loyalists - but that many of those key folks would likely be adios-ing and following Franklin to VT (or wherever he would end up)
If no one knew that they would - obviously
If no one knew there was a lot of bad blood and COI between program leadership and many key members of the staff
If no one knew those things, then someone(s) was asleep at the wheel.
Given the (lack of) actions taken to mitigate, asleep at the wheel seems to be a reasonable presumption.
What mitigations could have been engaged? Maybe firings (as you said), but maybe not - simply bringing in someone - either the current chieftan, or someone who could be trusted, or whomever - to monitor and control the situation may have been sufficient. A combination of actions, depending on each important aspect of running the program?
In any event, any number of mitigation tactics depending on each situation and the individuals involved. Obviously, that didn't happen.
That failure to mitigate (and to mitigate against the fallout from an action that was taken with deliberation and intent and control over how "the plan" was to be implemented- it is not like some Act of God befell the program out of the blue) was very damaging.
Obviously
So....to summarize, you believe this is a failure of Coach Campbell?If no one knew the Lasch Building was packed w "Franklin Loyalists"
If no one knew that not only was it packed with Franklin Loyalists - but that many of those key folks would likely be adios-ing and following Franklin to VT (or wherever he would end up)
If no one knew that they would - obviously
If no one knew there was a lot of bad blood and COI between program leadership and many key members of the staff
If no one knew those things, then someone(s) was asleep at the wheel.
Given the (lack of) actions taken to mitigate, asleep at the wheel seems to be a reasonable presumption.
What mitigations could have been engaged? Maybe firings (as you said), but maybe not - simply bringing in someone - either the current chieftan, or someone who could be trusted, or whomever - to monitor and control the situation may have been sufficient. A combination of actions, depending on each important aspect of running the program?
In any event, any number of mitigation tactics depending on each situation and the individuals involved. Obviously, that didn't happen.
That failure to mitigate (and to mitigate against the fallout from an action that was taken with deliberation and intent and control over how "the plan" was to be implemented- it is not like some Act of God befell the program out of the blue) was very damaging.
Obviously
I had that question too: Do all team players still receive a stipend or was that mandate nixed when NIL came in?
I agree with you,I’m impressed. We didn’t even give Campbell until the Blue-White Game. Speaking of, imagine what a SH|T. SHOW.
There is nothing in the House settlement (or in any subsequent agreements, to the best of my knowledge) that stipulates how revenue sharing is to be distributed. FWIW, NIL antedates revenue sharing. There is probably a balancing act on distributing money from both sources
Tennessee must have a sugar daddy similar to Cuban at Indiana $$$. They are doing extremely well in the "portal potty."
It’s probably the big boy from Swamp People who wears overalls without a shirt underneath. Bruce?
I would not count on Kraft to be accurate.Every team has the same size roster (more or less), so the only differentiator is how much $X you have to pay for that roster. PSU fans were told, by PSU ICA chief - repeatedly - about how much $ they had (that PSU's "X" was HUGE). Remember the stories about how the Adidas $ was a game changer? et al.
I don't know if anyone believed all that hype - but I am guessing (and certainly judging by the general reaction of folks on this board) that a lot of folks believed it.
"Adidas is making an unprecedented commitment to Penn State: delivering record investment in our department, groundbreaking NIL and marketing opportunities". Numbers were floated around of upwards of $20-30 million per year just from that revenue stream - much of it for "NIL" In addition to the $21 million of media rights revenue share $, not to mention the robust collective money, if all that were true, PSU had oodles of $ to spend - much, much more than just about every other program.
Read more at: https://www.centredaily.com/sports/...-football/article311970545.html#storylink=cpy
Was/is that true? If the talk was "true", PSU was in "elite" position to pay for a top notch roster.
If not?
I’m gone all day and you all can’t even pick up another portal guy, but instead just get Tomlin to retire and hire a new FH HC? Priorities people, come on. 
You have no proof of those claims. If in fact it was happening and someone at Penn State was paying attention, they should have found out about it and done something about it. But of course it’s far easier for some to excuse failure on the ever popular Franklin bogey man.
See my other post. If there was the “level
of outright sabotage” as apparently you and others apparently believe there is absolutely no excuse for other coaches to find out about it and for Kraft to do something about it. WOW. Simply unbelievable.
You mean unlike the posters who constantly blame Franklin for the university’s failures involving the 2026 class. That’s okay right?
Revenue sharing and NIL budgets and payouts! Transfer portal vs. recruiting! Roster shaping and building! Ugh…. This is getting too much like work. I’m retired so I’ll just sit back and wait for the season to start. I’ll let all the big brains hammer this out and argue their various and diverse points of view.
I think the reference was to how recruiting was handled after the Franklin firing and before the Campbell hiring.
Campbell has to back fill 49 players on an actual budget, but you clearly know what you're talking about. I'm sure the millions you gave are being misused.
That horse is dead too. No one is bringing anything new to these two subjects and no one is changing anyone's mind, as everyone has pretty much settled on where they stand. Next step is to throw some folks onto ignore like I have already done with one particular bloviator. I am just genuinely curious as to what it is exactly that the people that keep beating these dead horses hope to accomplish by having the same disagreements day after day after day.
There is an awful lot of misinformation being propagated in these threads. The payments being made to players from revenues are being structured as payments for "endorsement and promotion" just like NIL contracts - they are not being structured as "pay for play" employment contracts. So the claim that the monies source coming from university athletic revenues versus private sources means they are being categorized differently by the court system in terms of what they are compensation for.... - is false. All of the payments being made to the players are being represented as compensation for promotion and endorsement by the athlete, not pay to play football. The athletes are considered independent contractors (1099 vs W2) regardless of source of the payment. Were the payments made by the University structured as payments for playing football for the university, this would make them employees and subject the universities to provide employee benefits (do tax withholding, etc...) - it would also entitle the players to collective bargaining rights.
The Universities are internationally lying in claiming the players are amateur football players who simply have non-employee, independent contractor agreements with the university related to endorsement and promotion of the university based on their individual notoriety (essentially payments for what have come to be called "social influencers"). FBS Football is built on a complete lie and misrepresentation - that these players are not "professional football players" and are not being paid to play football.... that FBS Football is still played by amateur football players who all make a lot of money via "promotional contracts". It's a farce, entirely out of control and unsustainable.
How does that change the argument? It's what I've said since OctoberAnd you claimed I changed arguments.