Thoughts on Thomasville joining the Randolph County teams along with J Matthews and HP Andrews? Talk was the Dogs would be in the conference with all the Davidson county teams that they have been rivals with for many years. And no Thomasville-Lexington game to end the season with playoff implications, wow!
2a Realignment
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Well looks like we can't "AVOID" Andrews any more...we're just gonna have to step it up a couple notches now and man up...Andrews would be the favorite in this conference hands down
Conference F
Bunker Hill
Draughn
East Burke
Fred T. Foard
Hibriten
Newton-Conover
Patton
West Iredell
Very weak conference for football. Hibriten will be the cream of the conference. I absolutely don't like it at all with the exception that FTF and N-C are top state wrestling programs across all classifications going head to head finally.
Bunker Hill
Draughn
East Burke
Fred T. Foard
Hibriten
Newton-Conover
Patton
West Iredell
Very weak conference for football. Hibriten will be the cream of the conference. I absolutely don't like it at all with the exception that FTF and N-C are top state wrestling programs across all classifications going head to head finally.
How else would we divide the schools in this area??? East Burke and Draughn do not want to go to Rutherford County, Im sure Maiden and Bandys do not want to be in a Different Conference than Newton and Bunker Hill and I know they will put the 3 BC schools in the same conference.
During the last pre alignment they fought to not go up the mountain to play. Then they got put in with Shelby, Crest, and Kings Mountain and that was not acceptable. I don't think the Rutherford County teams were a problem, or at least it shouldn't be. Patton to West Iredell is quite the drive.
West Iredell as a 2A is sitting out on an island so they have to come back to somewhere like Catawba County. Maiden and Newton 5 miles away and bumping city limit to city limit will be odd but I just hope we schedule them every year for the rivalry.
Im pretty sure Newton and Maiden and Newton and Bandys would play each other ever year, I think they still did back when Maiden was in that league with Cherryville and shelby.Only other solution I could see is sending West Iredell and Hibriten to the conference with Ashe, North Wilkes, and Wilkes Central. But what would u do with the 1A Schools in that League
Anyone notice the unbelievable number of charter schools established now and going to play football? Good grief, how many schools they going to build to get around integration? Pisses me off.
Once again Rutherford county gets screwed. Put three schools in the same conference with Shelby. ( 3 time champ) and 3a runner up south point. East Rutherford adm was 777 (actual enrollment righ now is below 700) and south point adm is is 1021. As far as drive time. ( a supposed consideration) E Gaston is almost in Charlotte. So assume Shelby and S Point go 1& 2 into playoffs. That leaves everyone else scrambling for #3. Gets no home game. And makes no money cause they always travel. Why not let the 828 area code stay together ( Burke and Rutherford) and let the 704 area code stay together. Once again looks like the well to do schools benefit at the demise of the lesser ones and the financial gap grows.
Doubt it happens. Those schools are geographic matches but that conference is weak in many sports.
Hibriten I can see going in with the mountain teams but West Iredell would be prohibitive in time and costs during non-football season with that set up.
Which sport and is it a non-conference game? If non-con, that is quite different than having to drive a basketball team up to the mountains two or three times in a week to play three different teams.
They play them in football. well u could leave west iredell in the CVAC and move maiden and Bandys in there. Thing is what would u with the other schools that our in the conference with Ashe and Wilkes Central. The 1a schools that
Just my opinion,but the conference realignment sucks...taking conference rivalry's and big money games away from a lot of the teams...are you more likely to go see a nonconference game between a undefeated Maiden and Newton early in the season or a later game that can decide the conference?...conference F will probably be dominated by two teams...I don't know,I guess I like how the conferences are now because of all the good games around this area....hope the realignment gets changed
Burke-Rutherford........Caldwell-Iredell......Catawba-Lincoln......Cleveland-Gaston......I would love it to stay like this and it makes sense
No matter what happens someone is not going to be happy. You could make a 9 team conference out of the Burke/Caldwell/Catawba area and send West Iredell with the Lincoln County Schools and Lake Norman Charter. But what would u do Shelby South Point and East Gaston and the Rutherford County Schools.??
How would Reidsville even schedule a full slate of football games. I didn't think those two math and science schools have football teams and no guarantee Carrboro will have a football team by the time they play Reidsville each year.
As it stands in the current proposal, those schools are in Conference E. If that conference stands (unlikely in my opinion), then Rutherford County will not have a team in the playoffs for the next four years. While the numbers would be 2A, Shelby, SP and EG play like 3A schools and will likely schedule some 3A non-conference games to prepare themselves. The other alternatives are for the SMAC and Big South to remain split conferences (which sucks) OR for SP and EG, and possibly Shelby and LNC, to go in with the Lincoln County schools. Of course, that messes up the ideas that others have about mixing their schools with Lincoln County.
Out of curiosity, are you speaking of specific schools or saying that all charter schools are segregationalist?
Specific, Sasha. I understand the concept, and like it...but have found that they are sometimes used for wrong, and become elitist..if not segregation almost, per se...
I can't speak for gdg, I just got a kick out of his comment...a little brash, but unfortunately sometimes true...then again, I know public institutions that revel in their monochromatic demographics as well.
And don't have to provide meals or go by many of the other regulations that traditional schools have to follow. Easier for the legislature to turn education over to those who can make a profit from it.
Or this:
Teachers
Must public charter school teachers be certified in North Carolina?
State public charter school legislation requires state certification by at least 75 percent of teachers in elementary schools and 50 percent in middle and high schools. Public charter school teachers must follow NCLB requirements for highly-qualified staff, which include a bachelor's degree and demonstrated subject-matter competence.
I would think it depends a lot on the racial makeup of the community where the school is located. If the overall community is 86% white, 16% is black, 7% Hispanic, and 1% Asian, and the charter school has 1500 students (K-12) of which 20% are minority students, it may look segregated while it reflects the community composition. However, compared to a public high school with 1000 students, it would look extremely segregated in contrast.
If you have a charter school in a community that is racially diverse (usually within larger towns and cities) and the white population is only 50-60% but their percentage in the charter school is closer to 70-75% then I would think the case could be made for segregation.
How many charter schools you see in rural areas?
Their is a whole conference in 1A of Mecklenburg and Iredell counties. Centered and delivered to pull kids from the public schools. These schools need janitors, lawn maintenance, buildings, athletic fields, equipment, etc... All which would be shared in a public district system. So in a time of school budget cuts that have gone on for 15 years just show me how that helps. I'm not a CPA but I have a business degree and own a business and fail to see how that equates to better managed funds.
The charters were created for metro areas like Charlotte, Greensboro, Durham, and Raleigh. Yes they have a few in other areas where high minorities or the poor, including white kids reside. One of those is Albamarle where Graystone Day was created which left the poor to fail even more. Just how will a disadvantaged group of kids perform when all that's left are peers like themselves.
Their is a whole conference in 1A of Mecklenburg and Iredell counties. Centered and delivered to pull kids from the public schools. These schools need janitors, lawn maintenance, buildings, athletic fields, equipment, etc... All which would be shared in a public district system. So in a time of school budget cuts that have gone on for 15 years just show me how that helps. I'm not a CPA but I have a business degree and own a business and fail to see how that equates to better managed funds.
The charters were created for metro areas like Charlotte, Greensboro, Durham, and Raleigh. Yes they have a few in other areas where high minorities or the poor, including white kids reside. One of those is Albamarle where Graystone Day was created which left the poor to fail even more. Just how will a disadvantaged group of kids perform when all that's left are peers like themselves.
So are you talking about economic segregation, racial segregation, or both? While it may not equate to better managed funds, you can't blame parents for trying to do their best by their children. For some who can't afford private schools but feel trapped by poor performing public schools in their districts, parents find charter schools are the best option for them to provide a better environment for their kids to learn. Since you mentioned Greensboro, I looked at Zillow.com which focuses on real estate but also includes demographics and school info. Of the three charter schools (K-8/K-9) I looked at were all located in school districts which were basically 40/40/20 white/black/Hispanic - Guilford Charter was 94% black, Triad Math and Science Academy was 60% black, 30% white and 10% other; Greensboro Academy (I think the first charter school) was 82% white, 6% black, the remainder Hispanic/Asian/other. Ironically, the public schools in this same area as Greensboro Academy - Pearce Elementary and Kernodle Middle - are 72% and 65% white, respectively, and 9% and 18% black, respectively.
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