Earned income tax credit is a handout whether a good idea for some or not. Its a subtraction on the balance sheet.
40 Million Americans Receive SNAP Benefits To Help With Food - Many Not American Citizens
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U.S. Senator Elizabeth Warren
Donald Trump deleted this from the government website.Let's be clear: there's funding available to cover SNAP benefits next month. Trump is stopping SNAP benefits because he wants to. He is forcing mommas and babies to go hungry.
I’m shocked at the things that are being paid for. It’s no wonder this is being abused. Door dash from 7/11, $42 Nespresso pods delivered from Amazon. This is supposed to be an emergency stop gap and we’ve basically put 40 million people on Walmart + but at no charge, we are paying not only for the groceries but for them to be delivered to these people. It’s infuriating the things I’m seeing.
The damn poor people are ruining the country and you’ll believe anything online that confirms that belief!
An outrage!
there are laws concerning people who cheat. If someone knows who the cheaters are there are "rewards" for turning in tax cheats. I would guess, and I have no specific fact to prove it, that there are as many tax cheats who are not billionaires as who are. There used to be a section, group or whatever in the IRS to review the really high earners tax returns.
But your post is a little contradictory in that most folks on the left becry the fact the billionaires pay a lower tax rate than Buffet's secretary because they get their earnings from non W-2 means - dividends, gains, etc. If this is the case, there's really relatively easy ways to audit returns.
I think we often like to jump on the billionaires are bad guys train.
its just a point that stuck out to me. Im looking from the MAGA lense I guess? LOL!!!
Yeah, we were talking about people who have gone through the long process of becoming citizens. Legally.
Yeah we are way past the point of its intention when it was started. The program needs to be reigned in and hopefully the shutdown continues so this is brought into the spotlight.
I take lots of deductions, but at no point have they resulted in me paying $0 or negative federal income taxes (ie actually receiving money from the government vs. paying federal income tax). So no, I don’t think they’re the same thing. Similar, but one can result in a net handout and the other does not.
I have no idea when it happened but our immigration policy is completely backwards. We should be vetting them and looking for people that are high performing, smart, educated, hard working and that love what America stands for, what it represents. Instead we’ve allowed millions that have no desire to engage in honest work, they hate our society and culture. They refuse to assimilate, they complain and badmouth Americans, while being completely dependent on them. It’s wrong, it’s gross. It wasn’t the intent of this nation or its founders to be the worlds nanny and take on every sick and downtrodden person and provide them with food, clothes, housing, healthcare, dental care, childcare, education, etc…. Not one tax paying American should be ok with this, not one. If you pay taxes this should make you see red.
This can’t possibly be accurate. That stat is saying that illegals make up 70% of of SNAP costs, which simply isn’t remotely true. Your arguments would be better if you ensured the underlying data was accurate.
Referring to this quote: “If ILLEGALS were removed from SNAP the cost would reduce 70%.”
Not to mention, it's already been debunked (with MAGA agreeing on said debunking) IN THIS THREAD YESTERDAY. It's closer to 3%.
It’s super annoying and frustrating to see this stuff. Illegals should receive precisely $0 from SNAP, but the extreme misinformation destroys the legitimate argument.
She is saying that 70% of the payouts for SNAP go to illegals. I'm not totally sure this is inaccurate but I don't have a way to confirm it or not. I think it's way up there no matter what. I'm sure the libs will try to prove it's not correct. The numbers a few of them are spewing on the other end are obviously incorrect.
Its just the propaganda machine. It's posted everyday all day in this forum, according to whatever the Administration decides. They set the propaganda, the bots run with it all over Telegram, Truth Social, and then Twitter. MAGA eats it up, believes it completely, then takes it as truth and reposts it as well.
Untrue MAGA propaganda is forming our society.
No, it’s super frustrating to have to pay for them to be here. To have to watch Sikh truck drivers get 62000 CDLs in California and kill innocent families. It’s frustrating to know that my sky high health insurance is paying for their children and their healthcare. It’s frustrating watching people fill their grocery carts with 1000s of dollars of food for free. It’s frustrating when I get a letter from the IRS saying I need to give them MORE money so these people can hang out and not work. It’s frustrating when teachers are quitting district jobs because half the class can’t speak English. It’s frustrating watching illegal criminals get treated better than working class Americans. It’s frustrating watching illegals sleep for weeks on end at high price hotels while Americans sleep in the streets. It’s frustrating to be forced into vaccinations while letting third world immigrants take over our cities. It’s frustrating being told you’re a racist for loving your country and wanting America for Americans. Your anger is misplaced imo. These things are frustrating as well.
The truth is that numbers can be manipulated to paint and express differing viewpoints. Safe to say it's millions of illegals on multiple types of welfare. I do not want Americans on long term welfare either.
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Ujjain
This dude is a perfect example. He sits in his MAGA echo chamber all day and just lets himself get riled up on propaganda fed to him by bots making him a hateful and spiteful person.
Here’s another problem with this whole thing. This woman is in front of elected leaders here in America complaining that shes going to starve without her SNAP benefits. This woman has a BMI of 94 and she’s going to starve? How do poor people on food stamps become morbidly obese, if you’re so poor you can’t buy your own food, how the hell did you become a fat slob with no money to eat? It solidifies my point that this is plain and simple abuse by a majority of these people, this is just a fat, lazy *** that has rigged the system. She should be forced to repay her benefits.
Didn’t you call me a red neck, white boy like two days ago?? Didn’t you double down on believing reparations should be paid. But I’m in an echo chamber because I want a sovereign country. Ok bb.
Yes? I did and I'm unsure how that applies here, and your echo chamber actually just reinforces that fact.
Reparations are a personal belief, which no party espouses. I also don't care about undocumented people in the states either, and think they should be treated as humans/receive care/work here. But that is a personal belief as well.
Unsure what you're trying to say here but I'm not scared to be honest about what I personally believe, mainstream or no, and those beliefs are certainly not found in any echo chamber online.
Keep in mind I’m on the side of not giving non-citizens social welfare benefits. But the argument is cheapened when you use extremely inaccurate data as a foundational point. See below from chatGPT. It says about 3.5% of SNAP recipients are non-citizens. Even if there are some additional illegals on there, there is no mathematical possibility of that group making up 70% of SNAP expenditures. It’s so far off it’s comical and kills your argument. Focus on accuracy and defensible facts.
None of that makes dramatically inaccurate data okay. Just use real, accurate information to support your points. Again, I’m on your side with eliminating benefits for non-citizens.
Manipulated is the key word here. You are being manipulated with the spin on data. For example, this statement could be accurate:
70% of immigrant-led households receive some form of social welfare.
But that absolutely does not mean that immigrant-led households represent 70% of those costs. Understanding this takes a middle school level understanding of stats and denominators.
If you believe the government is telling you the truth you’re not as smart as I thought you were. I pulled this excerpt on something much easier to quantify, violence. It’s obvious that any number given by the left is inaccurate and a lie. These are obvious, blatant lies.Keep in mind I’m on the side of not giving non-citizens social welfare benefits. But the argument is cheapened when you use extremely inaccurate data as a foundational point. See below from chatGPT. It says about 3.5% of SNAP recipients are non-citizens. Even if there are some additional illegals on there, there is no mathematical possibility of that group making up 70% of SNAP expenditures. It’s so far off it’s comical and kills your argument. Focus on accuracy and defensible facts.
From Michael Knowles to Conngress:
"Congressman Moulton claimed that three quarters of political violence in the United States comes from the right, while only four percent comes from the left. That claim struck me, as it probably does many of you, as suspect."
"So I looked into just a few recent examples that came to mind of prominent left on right violence. The Covenant School Massacre in Nashville, in which a trans-identifying shooter murdered Christian school children after outlining her ideological motivations. According to authorities, there was no ideological motive there. Go figure."
"The Black Lives Matter riots - overtly leftist demonstrations that left dozens of people dead and over a billion dollars worth of property damage. Likewise, those failed to show up on registers of left-wing political violence."
"Even an attack by Antifa that targeted me personally, as well as conservative college students for our political views, appeared in official records and data sets as nothing more than obstructing law enforcement."
"It turns out the left commits relatively little political violence when you don't count the political violence that the left commits."
These were things we saw with our own eyes that they will lie about. What do you think they’re doing behind closed doors.
Case study for why the eligible food and drinks under SNAP should be limited to healthy options. It’s literally called a nutrition program.
You know what’s really f’d up. Now she can go and apply (and receive) disability due to obesity and obesity related illnesses. That’s how retarded our system is. We give them sugar snacks as food for free, they become morbidly obese, they then go on disability for the remainder of their life, you and I pay for all of that. Imagine the bill when this lady has to go get a stent put in or has to have her gallbladder removed. I hate this stuff. The fact that leftists support this is sickening.
Yeah, he's pretty unhinged. I haven't been lurking here for long, but it's wild seeing how untethered he seems to have gotten over the last few months.