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My brother knows some people who know Golden. Al has put out the word that he wants the RU job.

I don't want him here but it could happen.
 
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You all do realize Golden turned down the offered Penn State job right? He would be a great fit here. If you think he wouldnt succeed here you dont know a lot about northeast college football.
 

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You all do realize Golden turned down the offered Penn State job right? He would be a great fit here. If you think he wouldnt succeed here you dont know a lot about northeast college football.
I know he has a .500 lifetime record. Some of that w/great recruiting classes at Miami.

I fail to see how his record indicates that he'd be a winning coach for RU against the Big Ten elite.
 
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I know he has a .500 lifetime record. Some of that w/great recruiting classes at Miami.

I fail to see how his record indicates that he'd be a winning coach for RU against the Big Ten elite.
I agree with you. If you have hard time winning in the ACC where Miami has major recruiting advantages compared to most of its competition how well will you do at RU in the B10 where we have more disadvantages compared to the competition.

I don't care how well he recruits, it's not going to match the OSUs/Michigans and likely a few others. It's going to boil down the coaching and I don't think highly of him there so it'll be extremely dependent on coordinator choice and he hasn't done a bang up job in that department either. The only thing I'd say I like is that he actually did switch to a spread tempo offense in 2013 and I think that's the best avenue to getting us to be competitive. But again his coordinator choice to execute it wasn't the best and that's with all the speed and talent they had.
 
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mildone_rivals

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I agree with you. If you have hard time winning in the ACC where Miami has major recruiting advantages compared to most of its competition how well will you do at RU in the B10 where we have more disadvantages compared to the competition.

I don't care how well he recruits, it's not going to match the OSUs/Michigans and likely a few others. It's going to boil down the coaching and I don't think highly of him there so it'll be extremely dependent on coordinator choice and he hasn't done a bang up job in that department either. The only thing I'd say I like is that he actually did switch to a spread tempo offense in 2013 and I think that's the best avenue to getting us to be competitive. But again his coordinator choice to execute it wasn't the best and that's with all the speed and talent they had.
I'd rather take a chance on a coach that regularly wins at a lower competitive level than a guy that's had the advantages Golden's had where he's been and still can't get the job done. For the life of me, I don't get what people see in him.
 
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I'd rather take a chance on a coach that regularly wins at a lower competitive level than a guy that's had the advantages Golden's had where he's been and still can't get the job done. For the life of me, I don't get what people see in him.
I'm with you.
 

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I'd rather take a chance on a coach that regularly wins at a lower competitive level than a guy that's had the advantages Golden's had where he's been and still can't get the job done. For the life of me, I don't get what people see in him.

Moorhead!
 

Blitz8RU

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Are you kidding me with Golden?

****** coach with discipline issues at Miami. He can recruit (at miami, mind you which sells itself) but he can't develop or coach players. Is that what you want?

We need someone that can coach, bring in the spread and is a good enough Xs and Os coach to coach one of the OC or DC positions if needed so that we can splurge on the other position like we did with Fridge. Recruiting will come with good coaching. Coaching is the foundation.
 
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ruman

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My brother knows some people who know Golden. Al has put out the word that he wants the RU job.

I don't want him here but it could happen.
Wow. He really is making a bold move there
 
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People around the football world constantly say that Rutgers would win and win big if the best players in the state stayed home. I think our next coach must have a proven track record for successfully recruiting the best players in a state. We've tried the coordinator route before. It has never worked out. Let's try a different approach after 40 years.
 

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People often jokingly ask what is "stain" or "juice" when they hear that Flood lacks those attributes. I think the below comparison gives a little inside peek at what the players see and maybe it helps to quantify "stain," if that is even possible. Either way, if I am a 17 year old football superstar, I know which one has more of my attention.

 
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Fire Sabatical on leave professors! I know its not possible but that would free up the Flood buyout.
Give a 5-year contract to Rick Neuheisl and let him turn Anthony Russo into another Andrew Luck type QB as he has done before.
You obviously forgot what happened the last time we brought in a west coast guy that was known for developing QB's.
 

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this smells like RU would be chasing after what once was "The Next Hot Thing" Coach ... that has now been proven to be 'not so hot' ....

what tangible - or intangible qualities would one point to in order to justify a belief that Golden would become a visionary leader at RU? what anomaly intervened in Miami to thwart his capabilities and prevented success?
 
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Completely hypothetical to the anti-Golden crowd: if Golden was willing to come in at the same $1.6 million that we were to pay Flood next year, should we reject him and stick with Flood?

fwiw, his asking price to coach at RU is $2 million.
 

Caliknight

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You all do realize Golden turned down the offered Penn State job right? He would be a great fit here. If you think he wouldnt succeed here you dont know a lot about northeast college football.

He was never, ever offered the Penn State job. Even after groveling for it.

He is Flood with a tie.
 

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People often jokingly ask what is "stain" or "juice" when they hear that Flood lacks those attributes. I think the below comparison gives a little inside peek at what the players see and maybe it helps to quantify "stain," if that is even possible. Either way, if I am a 17 year old football superstar, I know which one has more of my attention.


Neither coach has anything to do with this. Waaaay below what they are involved in.
 

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Neither coach has anything to do with this. Waaaay below what they are involved in.

That in a nutshell is the problem with flood. No attention to detail. You would never say that about schiano. He was obsessed with the details. And the offer letter, which is the single most significant piece of mail most of these kids will receive in their entire life, is no mundane detail. And yet Flood flubs it anyway.
 

Caliknight

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That in a nutshell is the problem with flood. No attention to detail. You would never say that about schiano. He was obsessed with the details. And the offer letter, which is the single most significant piece of mail most of these kids will receive in their entire life, is no mundane detail. And yet Flood flubs it anyway.

Or you hire forward thinking people and let them create. I guarantee you Nick Saban isn't creating offer letters at night on his Mac.

It's an athletic department thing.
 

AreYouNUTS

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People often jokingly ask what is "stain" or "juice" when they hear that Flood lacks those attributes. I think the below comparison gives a little inside peek at what the players see and maybe it helps to quantify "stain," if that is even possible. Either way, if I am a 17 year old football superstar, I know which one has more of my attention.



Here's the problem with Al:

his D's have sucked at Miami. He would have to come with a DC who knows how to play in a division like the B1G East. No questions asked or no thanks.
 

RUJohnny99

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People often jokingly ask what is "stain" or "juice" when they hear that Flood lacks those attributes. I think the below comparison gives a little inside peek at what the players see and maybe it helps to quantify "stain," if that is even possible. Either way, if I am a 17 year old football superstar, I know which one has more of my attention.


I keep looking at this and laughing. "Jonathan, we believe you are the type...."

His database doesn't even have "preferred nickname" or whatever it's called. I could just imagine Pollock going "IT"S JON. CALL ME JON!"
 
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KingHigh

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I keep looking at this and laughing. "Jonathan, we believe you are the type...."

His database doesn't even have "preferred nickname" or whatever it's called. I could just imagine Pollock going "IT"S JON. CALL ME JON!"

I love the ultra sincere moments where the player's first name is mail merged right into the letter. I wonder if they put real stamps on these things or if it is the presorted standard bulk mail.
 

RUJohnny99

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I love the ultra sincere moments where the player's first name is mail merged right into the letter. I wonder if they put real stamps on these things or if it is the presorted standard bulk mail.
Well, this explains why Flood is 0 for the NJ 4 stars over his career. Their moms keep throwing out the offers thinking it's junk mail.
 
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Letitrip

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The Golden to RU, Schiano to Miami rumor was alive and well at the RAC today.
Rumors are just that - rumors. No way we hire this guy - Top ten classes could not win in the ACC yet somehow will in the BIG 10?
 

aplus29

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Isn't this the scenario pernetti tried to use with Addazzio when Schiano left? Keep the assistants, and then Schiano took all the assistants with him to Tampa...terrible idea
 

Caliknight

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Beggars can't be choosers. I don't think he's going to get too many phone calls.

He won't get any and we shouldn't break that trend. There is a reason no other school talks about that guy. He is a joke.