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A hobbyist's take on the computer ratings

615dawg

615dawg

All-Conference
Jun 4, 2007
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I'm a software engineer. I'm a college football fan. I can write code. I know advanced Calculus. I like to look at things like this.

So, I plugged in teams, their records, their strength of schedule, their offensive and defensive numbers, etc. Put some formulas to it and out came the 615dawg amateur computer ratings. Oklahoma is #1. Boise State is 2. Believe me, I don't like it, but their schedule strength is keeping them from being far and away #1.

Auburn comes in at 3rd, followed by Missouri, who I think is better than the polls think. They play Oklahoma this weekend, so we'll find out. TCU's strong defense and LSU's inept offense allowed the Horny Frogs to edge out LSU for the last spot in the top five.

Other teams that I found interesting:

Oregon at 8th - the official BCS computers have them at 9th, so the computers aren't impressed.
Alabama at 12th - Personally I think they are still a top five team.
Nevada at 17th - Gaudy numbers overinflate them, just like their WAC brethren.
Mississippi State at 23rd.
South Carolina at 27th.
Arkansas at 30th.
Florida at 33rd.
Ole Miss at 52nd.
Kentucky at 64th.
UAB at 100th.
Akron at 120th.

I also wrote an indexer that predicts scores based on the formula.
Mississippi State by 26 over UAB
Missouri by 1 over Oklahoma
Auburn by 4 over LSU
Arkansas by 11 over Ole Miss
Oklahoma State by 8 over Nebraska


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<col width="75"><col style="" width="115"><col width="75"><tbody><tr height="13"><td height="13" width="75"></td><td width="115">Team</td><td width="75">Rating</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">1</td><td>Oklahoma </td><td align="right">222.239</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">2</td><td>Boise State </td><td align="right">220.454</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">3</td><td>Auburn </td><td align="right">218.99</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">4</td><td>Missouri </td><td align="right">216.912</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">5</td><td>TCU </td><td align="right">215.638</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">6</td><td>LSU </td><td align="right">215.166</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">7</td><td>Oklahoma State </td><td align="right">213.396</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">8</td><td>Oregon </td><td align="right">211.298</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">9</td><td>Michigan State </td><td align="right">209.711</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">10</td><td>Utah </td><td align="right">205.368</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">11</td><td>Stanford </td><td align="right">202.214</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">12</td><td>Alabama </td><td align="right">201.112</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">13</td><td>Ohio State </td><td align="right">198.112</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">14</td><td>Florida State </td><td align="right">196.258</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">15</td><td>Nebraska </td><td align="right">193.383</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">16</td><td>Virginia Tech </td><td align="right">192.648</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">17</td><td>Nevada </td><td align="right">192.116</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">18</td><td>Texas </td><td align="right">191.814</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">19</td><td>Arizona </td><td align="right">190.809</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">20</td><td>Kansas State </td><td align="right">190.456</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">21</td><td>Iowa </td><td align="right">189.763</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">22</td><td>North Carolina </td><td align="right">189.326</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">23</td><td>Mississippi State </td><td align="right">186.017</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">24</td><td>North Carolina State </td><td align="right">185.966</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">25</td><td>Michigan </td><td align="right">184.783</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">26</td><td>Wisconsin </td><td align="right">184.731</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">27</td><td>South Carolina </td><td align="right">182.701</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">28</td><td>USC </td><td align="right">181.346</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">29</td><td>Miami </td><td align="right">181.297</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">30</td><td>Arkansas </td><td align="right">180.858</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">31</td><td>West Virginia </td><td align="right">180.259</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">32</td><td>Baylor </td><td align="right">180.08</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">33</td><td>Florida </td><td align="right">176.899</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">34</td><td>Hawaii </td><td align="right">176.294</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">35</td><td>Northwestern </td><td align="right">175.651</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">36</td><td>Notre Dame </td><td align="right">174.342</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">37</td><td>East Carolina </td><td align="right">173.527</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">38</td><td>Air Force </td><td align="right">172.707</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">39</td><td>Southern Miss </td><td align="right">170.033</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">40</td><td>Georgia Tech </td><td align="right">169.953</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">41</td><td>Toledo </td><td align="right">169.7</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">42</td><td>Illinois </td><td align="right">169.178</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">43</td><td>UCF </td><td align="right">167.826</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">44</td><td>Oregon State </td><td align="right">166.027</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">45</td><td>Fresno State </td><td align="right">165.455</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">46</td><td>Texas A&M </td><td align="right">164.806</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">47</td><td>Navy </td><td align="right">164.402</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">48</td><td>UCLA </td><td align="right">164.357</td></tr><tr style="page-break-before: always;" height="13"><td align="right" height="13">49</td><td>San Diego State </td><td align="right">163.459</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">50</td><td>Cincinnati </td><td align="right">163.357</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">51</td><td>Purdue </td><td align="right">162.771</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">52</td><td>Ole Miss </td><td align="right">161.909</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">53</td><td>Temple </td><td align="right">161.889</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">54</td><td>Colorado </td><td align="right">160.703</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">55</td><td>Pittsburgh </td><td align="right">160.513</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">56</td><td>Iowa State </td><td align="right">160.172</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">57</td><td>California </td><td align="right">158.803</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">58</td><td>Texas Tech </td><td align="right">158.48</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">59</td><td>Northern Illinois </td><td align="right">157.61</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">60</td><td>Washington </td><td align="right">156.905</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">61</td><td>SMU </td><td align="right">156.148</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">62</td><td>Arizona State </td><td align="right">156.039</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">63</td><td>Syracuse </td><td align="right">155.664</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">64</td><td>Kentucky </td><td align="right">155.638</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">65</td><td>Maryland </td><td align="right">154.214</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">66</td><td>Troy </td><td align="right">154.082</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">67</td><td>Penn State </td><td align="right">152.71</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">68</td><td>Rutgers </td><td align="right">152.511</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">69</td><td>Army </td><td align="right">152.146</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">70</td><td>Tulsa </td><td align="right">151.772</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">71</td><td>Miami-Ohio </td><td align="right">150.721</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">72</td><td>Connecticut </td><td align="right">150.649</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">73</td><td>Indiana </td><td align="right">147.7</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">74</td><td>UTEP </td><td align="right">147.168</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">75</td><td>Clemson </td><td align="right">144.466</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">76</td><td>Georgia </td><td align="right">144.208</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">77</td><td>Ohio </td><td align="right">143.672</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">78</td><td>Louisiana Tech </td><td align="right">143.132</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">79</td><td>Houston </td><td align="right">141.253</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">80</td><td>Wyoming </td><td align="right">139.785</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">81</td><td>Vanderbilt </td><td align="right">136.508</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">82</td><td>Idaho </td><td align="right">135.153</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">83</td><td>Kansas </td><td align="right">134.463</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">84</td><td>BYU </td><td align="right">133.982</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">85</td><td>Boston College </td><td align="right">131.152</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">86</td><td>South Florida </td><td align="right">130.712</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">87</td><td>Louisville </td><td align="right">130.615</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">88</td><td>Tennessee </td><td align="right">130.034</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">89</td><td>Western Michigan </td><td align="right">129.532</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">90</td><td>Virginia </td><td align="right">127.308</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">91</td><td>Colorado State </td><td align="right">127.251</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">92</td><td>ULM </td><td align="right">125.994</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">93</td><td>Central Michigan </td><td align="right">125.112</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">94</td><td>Rice </td><td align="right">122.87</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">95</td><td>Buffalo </td><td align="right">121.666</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">96</td><td>Utah State </td><td align="right">120.919</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">97</td><td>Ball State </td><td align="right">119.21</td></tr><tr style="page-break-before: always;" height="13"><td align="right" height="13">98</td><td>Washington State </td><td align="right">119.041</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">99</td><td>FIU </td><td align="right">118.951</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">100</td><td>UAB </td><td align="right">118.704</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">101</td><td>Wake Forest </td><td align="right">117.777</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">102</td><td>Arkansas State </td><td align="right">117.608</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">103</td><td>San Jose State </td><td align="right">117.603</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">104</td><td>Tulane </td><td align="right">117.398</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">105</td><td>Louisiana-Lafayette </td><td align="right">117.228</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">106</td><td>Minnesota </td><td align="right">112.803</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">107</td><td>Marshall </td><td align="right">111.903</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">108</td><td>Middle Tennessee </td><td align="right">111.165</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">109</td><td>UNLV </td><td align="right">110.721</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">110</td><td>Kent State </td><td align="right">107.912</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">111</td><td>Memphis </td><td align="right">106.479</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">112</td><td>New Mexico State </td><td align="right">103.884</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">113</td><td>Florida Atlantic </td><td align="right">103.775</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">114</td><td>Bowling Green </td><td align="right">102.193</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">115</td><td>Duke </td><td align="right">100.54</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">116</td><td>Eastern Michigan </td><td align="right">99.489</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">117</td><td>New Mexico </td><td align="right">87.242</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">118</td><td>Western Kentucky </td><td align="right">83.759</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">119</td><td>North Texas </td><td align="right">83.471</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">120</td><td>Akron </td><td align="right">80.337</td></tr>

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615dawg

615dawg

All-Conference
Jun 4, 2007
6,541
3,410
113
I'm a software engineer. I'm a college football fan. I can write code. I know advanced Calculus. I like to look at things like this.

So, I plugged in teams, their records, their strength of schedule, their offensive and defensive numbers, etc. Put some formulas to it and out came the 615dawg amateur computer ratings. Oklahoma is #1. Boise State is 2. Believe me, I don't like it, but their schedule strength is keeping them from being far and away #1.

Auburn comes in at 3rd, followed by Missouri, who I think is better than the polls think. They play Oklahoma this weekend, so we'll find out. TCU's strong defense and LSU's inept offense allowed the Horny Frogs to edge out LSU for the last spot in the top five.

Other teams that I found interesting:

Oregon at 8th - the official BCS computers have them at 9th, so the computers aren't impressed.
Alabama at 12th - Personally I think they are still a top five team.
Nevada at 17th - Gaudy numbers overinflate them, just like their WAC brethren.
Mississippi State at 23rd.
South Carolina at 27th.
Arkansas at 30th.
Florida at 33rd.
Ole Miss at 52nd.
Kentucky at 64th.
UAB at 100th.
Akron at 120th.

I also wrote an indexer that predicts scores based on the formula.
Mississippi State by 26 over UAB
Missouri by 1 over Oklahoma
Auburn by 4 over LSU
Arkansas by 11 over Ole Miss
Oklahoma State by 8 over Nebraska


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<col width="75"><col style="" width="115"><col width="75"><tbody><tr height="13"><td height="13" width="75"></td><td width="115">Team</td><td width="75">Rating</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">1</td><td>Oklahoma </td><td align="right">222.239</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">2</td><td>Boise State </td><td align="right">220.454</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">3</td><td>Auburn </td><td align="right">218.99</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">4</td><td>Missouri </td><td align="right">216.912</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">5</td><td>TCU </td><td align="right">215.638</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">6</td><td>LSU </td><td align="right">215.166</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">7</td><td>Oklahoma State </td><td align="right">213.396</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">8</td><td>Oregon </td><td align="right">211.298</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">9</td><td>Michigan State </td><td align="right">209.711</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">10</td><td>Utah </td><td align="right">205.368</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">11</td><td>Stanford </td><td align="right">202.214</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">12</td><td>Alabama </td><td align="right">201.112</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">13</td><td>Ohio State </td><td align="right">198.112</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">14</td><td>Florida State </td><td align="right">196.258</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">15</td><td>Nebraska </td><td align="right">193.383</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">16</td><td>Virginia Tech </td><td align="right">192.648</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">17</td><td>Nevada </td><td align="right">192.116</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">18</td><td>Texas </td><td align="right">191.814</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">19</td><td>Arizona </td><td align="right">190.809</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">20</td><td>Kansas State </td><td align="right">190.456</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">21</td><td>Iowa </td><td align="right">189.763</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">22</td><td>North Carolina </td><td align="right">189.326</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">23</td><td>Mississippi State </td><td align="right">186.017</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">24</td><td>North Carolina State </td><td align="right">185.966</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">25</td><td>Michigan </td><td align="right">184.783</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">26</td><td>Wisconsin </td><td align="right">184.731</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">27</td><td>South Carolina </td><td align="right">182.701</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">28</td><td>USC </td><td align="right">181.346</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">29</td><td>Miami </td><td align="right">181.297</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">30</td><td>Arkansas </td><td align="right">180.858</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">31</td><td>West Virginia </td><td align="right">180.259</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">32</td><td>Baylor </td><td align="right">180.08</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">33</td><td>Florida </td><td align="right">176.899</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">34</td><td>Hawaii </td><td align="right">176.294</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">35</td><td>Northwestern </td><td align="right">175.651</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">36</td><td>Notre Dame </td><td align="right">174.342</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">37</td><td>East Carolina </td><td align="right">173.527</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">38</td><td>Air Force </td><td align="right">172.707</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">39</td><td>Southern Miss </td><td align="right">170.033</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">40</td><td>Georgia Tech </td><td align="right">169.953</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">41</td><td>Toledo </td><td align="right">169.7</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">42</td><td>Illinois </td><td align="right">169.178</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">43</td><td>UCF </td><td align="right">167.826</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">44</td><td>Oregon State </td><td align="right">166.027</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">45</td><td>Fresno State </td><td align="right">165.455</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">46</td><td>Texas A&M </td><td align="right">164.806</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">47</td><td>Navy </td><td align="right">164.402</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">48</td><td>UCLA </td><td align="right">164.357</td></tr><tr style="page-break-before: always;" height="13"><td align="right" height="13">49</td><td>San Diego State </td><td align="right">163.459</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">50</td><td>Cincinnati </td><td align="right">163.357</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">51</td><td>Purdue </td><td align="right">162.771</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">52</td><td>Ole Miss </td><td align="right">161.909</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">53</td><td>Temple </td><td align="right">161.889</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">54</td><td>Colorado </td><td align="right">160.703</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">55</td><td>Pittsburgh </td><td align="right">160.513</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">56</td><td>Iowa State </td><td align="right">160.172</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">57</td><td>California </td><td align="right">158.803</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">58</td><td>Texas Tech </td><td align="right">158.48</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">59</td><td>Northern Illinois </td><td align="right">157.61</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">60</td><td>Washington </td><td align="right">156.905</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">61</td><td>SMU </td><td align="right">156.148</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">62</td><td>Arizona State </td><td align="right">156.039</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">63</td><td>Syracuse </td><td align="right">155.664</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">64</td><td>Kentucky </td><td align="right">155.638</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">65</td><td>Maryland </td><td align="right">154.214</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">66</td><td>Troy </td><td align="right">154.082</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">67</td><td>Penn State </td><td align="right">152.71</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">68</td><td>Rutgers </td><td align="right">152.511</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">69</td><td>Army </td><td align="right">152.146</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">70</td><td>Tulsa </td><td align="right">151.772</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">71</td><td>Miami-Ohio </td><td align="right">150.721</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">72</td><td>Connecticut </td><td align="right">150.649</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">73</td><td>Indiana </td><td align="right">147.7</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">74</td><td>UTEP </td><td align="right">147.168</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">75</td><td>Clemson </td><td align="right">144.466</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">76</td><td>Georgia </td><td align="right">144.208</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">77</td><td>Ohio </td><td align="right">143.672</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">78</td><td>Louisiana Tech </td><td align="right">143.132</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">79</td><td>Houston </td><td align="right">141.253</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">80</td><td>Wyoming </td><td align="right">139.785</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">81</td><td>Vanderbilt </td><td align="right">136.508</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">82</td><td>Idaho </td><td align="right">135.153</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">83</td><td>Kansas </td><td align="right">134.463</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">84</td><td>BYU </td><td align="right">133.982</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">85</td><td>Boston College </td><td align="right">131.152</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">86</td><td>South Florida </td><td align="right">130.712</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">87</td><td>Louisville </td><td align="right">130.615</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">88</td><td>Tennessee </td><td align="right">130.034</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">89</td><td>Western Michigan </td><td align="right">129.532</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">90</td><td>Virginia </td><td align="right">127.308</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">91</td><td>Colorado State </td><td align="right">127.251</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">92</td><td>ULM </td><td align="right">125.994</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">93</td><td>Central Michigan </td><td align="right">125.112</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">94</td><td>Rice </td><td align="right">122.87</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">95</td><td>Buffalo </td><td align="right">121.666</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">96</td><td>Utah State </td><td align="right">120.919</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">97</td><td>Ball State </td><td align="right">119.21</td></tr><tr style="page-break-before: always;" height="13"><td align="right" height="13">98</td><td>Washington State </td><td align="right">119.041</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">99</td><td>FIU </td><td align="right">118.951</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">100</td><td>UAB </td><td align="right">118.704</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">101</td><td>Wake Forest </td><td align="right">117.777</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">102</td><td>Arkansas State </td><td align="right">117.608</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">103</td><td>San Jose State </td><td align="right">117.603</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">104</td><td>Tulane </td><td align="right">117.398</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">105</td><td>Louisiana-Lafayette </td><td align="right">117.228</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">106</td><td>Minnesota </td><td align="right">112.803</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">107</td><td>Marshall </td><td align="right">111.903</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">108</td><td>Middle Tennessee </td><td align="right">111.165</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">109</td><td>UNLV </td><td align="right">110.721</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">110</td><td>Kent State </td><td align="right">107.912</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">111</td><td>Memphis </td><td align="right">106.479</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">112</td><td>New Mexico State </td><td align="right">103.884</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">113</td><td>Florida Atlantic </td><td align="right">103.775</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">114</td><td>Bowling Green </td><td align="right">102.193</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">115</td><td>Duke </td><td align="right">100.54</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">116</td><td>Eastern Michigan </td><td align="right">99.489</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">117</td><td>New Mexico </td><td align="right">87.242</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">118</td><td>Western Kentucky </td><td align="right">83.759</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">119</td><td>North Texas </td><td align="right">83.471</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">120</td><td>Akron </td><td align="right">80.337</td></tr>

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615dawg

615dawg

All-Conference
Jun 4, 2007
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I'm a software engineer. I'm a college football fan. I can write code. I know advanced Calculus. I like to look at things like this.

So, I plugged in teams, their records, their strength of schedule, their offensive and defensive numbers, etc. Put some formulas to it and out came the 615dawg amateur computer ratings. Oklahoma is #1. Boise State is 2. Believe me, I don't like it, but their schedule strength is keeping them from being far and away #1.

Auburn comes in at 3rd, followed by Missouri, who I think is better than the polls think. They play Oklahoma this weekend, so we'll find out. TCU's strong defense and LSU's inept offense allowed the Horny Frogs to edge out LSU for the last spot in the top five.

Other teams that I found interesting:

Oregon at 8th - the official BCS computers have them at 9th, so the computers aren't impressed.
Alabama at 12th - Personally I think they are still a top five team.
Nevada at 17th - Gaudy numbers overinflate them, just like their WAC brethren.
Mississippi State at 23rd.
South Carolina at 27th.
Arkansas at 30th.
Florida at 33rd.
Ole Miss at 52nd.
Kentucky at 64th.
UAB at 100th.
Akron at 120th.

I also wrote an indexer that predicts scores based on the formula.
Mississippi State by 26 over UAB
Missouri by 1 over Oklahoma
Auburn by 4 over LSU
Arkansas by 11 over Ole Miss
Oklahoma State by 8 over Nebraska


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<col width="75"><col style="" width="115"><col width="75"><tbody><tr height="13"><td height="13" width="75"></td><td width="115">Team</td><td width="75">Rating</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">1</td><td>Oklahoma </td><td align="right">222.239</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">2</td><td>Boise State </td><td align="right">220.454</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">3</td><td>Auburn </td><td align="right">218.99</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">4</td><td>Missouri </td><td align="right">216.912</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">5</td><td>TCU </td><td align="right">215.638</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">6</td><td>LSU </td><td align="right">215.166</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">7</td><td>Oklahoma State </td><td align="right">213.396</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">8</td><td>Oregon </td><td align="right">211.298</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">9</td><td>Michigan State </td><td align="right">209.711</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">10</td><td>Utah </td><td align="right">205.368</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">11</td><td>Stanford </td><td align="right">202.214</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">12</td><td>Alabama </td><td align="right">201.112</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">13</td><td>Ohio State </td><td align="right">198.112</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">14</td><td>Florida State </td><td align="right">196.258</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">15</td><td>Nebraska </td><td align="right">193.383</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">16</td><td>Virginia Tech </td><td align="right">192.648</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">17</td><td>Nevada </td><td align="right">192.116</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">18</td><td>Texas </td><td align="right">191.814</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">19</td><td>Arizona </td><td align="right">190.809</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">20</td><td>Kansas State </td><td align="right">190.456</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">21</td><td>Iowa </td><td align="right">189.763</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">22</td><td>North Carolina </td><td align="right">189.326</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">23</td><td>Mississippi State </td><td align="right">186.017</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">24</td><td>North Carolina State </td><td align="right">185.966</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">25</td><td>Michigan </td><td align="right">184.783</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">26</td><td>Wisconsin </td><td align="right">184.731</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">27</td><td>South Carolina </td><td align="right">182.701</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">28</td><td>USC </td><td align="right">181.346</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">29</td><td>Miami </td><td align="right">181.297</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">30</td><td>Arkansas </td><td align="right">180.858</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">31</td><td>West Virginia </td><td align="right">180.259</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">32</td><td>Baylor </td><td align="right">180.08</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">33</td><td>Florida </td><td align="right">176.899</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">34</td><td>Hawaii </td><td align="right">176.294</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">35</td><td>Northwestern </td><td align="right">175.651</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">36</td><td>Notre Dame </td><td align="right">174.342</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">37</td><td>East Carolina </td><td align="right">173.527</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">38</td><td>Air Force </td><td align="right">172.707</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">39</td><td>Southern Miss </td><td align="right">170.033</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">40</td><td>Georgia Tech </td><td align="right">169.953</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">41</td><td>Toledo </td><td align="right">169.7</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">42</td><td>Illinois </td><td align="right">169.178</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">43</td><td>UCF </td><td align="right">167.826</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">44</td><td>Oregon State </td><td align="right">166.027</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">45</td><td>Fresno State </td><td align="right">165.455</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">46</td><td>Texas A&M </td><td align="right">164.806</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">47</td><td>Navy </td><td align="right">164.402</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">48</td><td>UCLA </td><td align="right">164.357</td></tr><tr style="page-break-before: always;" height="13"><td align="right" height="13">49</td><td>San Diego State </td><td align="right">163.459</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">50</td><td>Cincinnati </td><td align="right">163.357</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">51</td><td>Purdue </td><td align="right">162.771</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">52</td><td>Ole Miss </td><td align="right">161.909</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">53</td><td>Temple </td><td align="right">161.889</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">54</td><td>Colorado </td><td align="right">160.703</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">55</td><td>Pittsburgh </td><td align="right">160.513</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">56</td><td>Iowa State </td><td align="right">160.172</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">57</td><td>California </td><td align="right">158.803</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">58</td><td>Texas Tech </td><td align="right">158.48</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">59</td><td>Northern Illinois </td><td align="right">157.61</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">60</td><td>Washington </td><td align="right">156.905</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">61</td><td>SMU </td><td align="right">156.148</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">62</td><td>Arizona State </td><td align="right">156.039</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">63</td><td>Syracuse </td><td align="right">155.664</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">64</td><td>Kentucky </td><td align="right">155.638</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">65</td><td>Maryland </td><td align="right">154.214</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">66</td><td>Troy </td><td align="right">154.082</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">67</td><td>Penn State </td><td align="right">152.71</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">68</td><td>Rutgers </td><td align="right">152.511</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">69</td><td>Army </td><td align="right">152.146</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">70</td><td>Tulsa </td><td align="right">151.772</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">71</td><td>Miami-Ohio </td><td align="right">150.721</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">72</td><td>Connecticut </td><td align="right">150.649</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">73</td><td>Indiana </td><td align="right">147.7</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">74</td><td>UTEP </td><td align="right">147.168</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">75</td><td>Clemson </td><td align="right">144.466</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">76</td><td>Georgia </td><td align="right">144.208</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">77</td><td>Ohio </td><td align="right">143.672</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">78</td><td>Louisiana Tech </td><td align="right">143.132</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">79</td><td>Houston </td><td align="right">141.253</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">80</td><td>Wyoming </td><td align="right">139.785</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">81</td><td>Vanderbilt </td><td align="right">136.508</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">82</td><td>Idaho </td><td align="right">135.153</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">83</td><td>Kansas </td><td align="right">134.463</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">84</td><td>BYU </td><td align="right">133.982</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">85</td><td>Boston College </td><td align="right">131.152</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">86</td><td>South Florida </td><td align="right">130.712</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">87</td><td>Louisville </td><td align="right">130.615</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">88</td><td>Tennessee </td><td align="right">130.034</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">89</td><td>Western Michigan </td><td align="right">129.532</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">90</td><td>Virginia </td><td align="right">127.308</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">91</td><td>Colorado State </td><td align="right">127.251</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">92</td><td>ULM </td><td align="right">125.994</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">93</td><td>Central Michigan </td><td align="right">125.112</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">94</td><td>Rice </td><td align="right">122.87</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">95</td><td>Buffalo </td><td align="right">121.666</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">96</td><td>Utah State </td><td align="right">120.919</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">97</td><td>Ball State </td><td align="right">119.21</td></tr><tr style="page-break-before: always;" height="13"><td align="right" height="13">98</td><td>Washington State </td><td align="right">119.041</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">99</td><td>FIU </td><td align="right">118.951</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">100</td><td>UAB </td><td align="right">118.704</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">101</td><td>Wake Forest </td><td align="right">117.777</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">102</td><td>Arkansas State </td><td align="right">117.608</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">103</td><td>San Jose State </td><td align="right">117.603</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">104</td><td>Tulane </td><td align="right">117.398</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">105</td><td>Louisiana-Lafayette </td><td align="right">117.228</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">106</td><td>Minnesota </td><td align="right">112.803</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">107</td><td>Marshall </td><td align="right">111.903</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">108</td><td>Middle Tennessee </td><td align="right">111.165</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">109</td><td>UNLV </td><td align="right">110.721</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">110</td><td>Kent State </td><td align="right">107.912</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">111</td><td>Memphis </td><td align="right">106.479</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">112</td><td>New Mexico State </td><td align="right">103.884</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">113</td><td>Florida Atlantic </td><td align="right">103.775</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">114</td><td>Bowling Green </td><td align="right">102.193</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">115</td><td>Duke </td><td align="right">100.54</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">116</td><td>Eastern Michigan </td><td align="right">99.489</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">117</td><td>New Mexico </td><td align="right">87.242</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">118</td><td>Western Kentucky </td><td align="right">83.759</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">119</td><td>North Texas </td><td align="right">83.471</td></tr><tr height="13"><td align="right" height="13">120</td><td>Akron </td><td align="right">80.337</td></tr>

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FQDawg

FQDawg

Senior
May 1, 2006
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on a serious note... 615, where did you get the strength of schedule numbers? One of my beefs with computer polls is that you can't really know strength of schedule until you have actually played out the season.
 
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All I have to do is update a couple columns for the week, which can be done with a simple copy paste from several websites.

It was fun "tinkering" with the numbers. I weighted one data point more than another, and Auburn would jump Boise State, move another one and Boise would be #1. In the end, I settled on this weight.
Record: 20%
Opponent's Record: 45%
Opponent's Opponent's Record: 20%
Total Offense Rating: 7.5%
Total Defense Rating: 7.5%
1.5 indexed for win over Top 10 team (e.g. a 7-0 team that has a win over a top 10 team would get credit for having a winning percentage of 1.07 rather than 1.00)
1.2 indexed for win over Top 25 team
1.5 indexed for loss to 100-120 team

I will say this - no matter what I did, the computer did not like Oregon. Could come back and hurt them in the end.
 
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and plug it into this.

In this manner Sixpack can really have an official ranking system and declare a national champion retroactively. Obviously you'd have to tinker with numbers until you came up with something that had state #1 that year. You can weigh conference champion higher, SOS, whatever.
 
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Auburn and LSU have yet to receive credit for playing each other. Boise's SOS will keep going down, while there's will keep going up as they play Alabama, etc.
 
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While I'm a bit of a stats/numbers nerd myself, I've never bothered creating my own rankings.

Of the computer rating systems, I do like the Colley Matrix system. Maybe because he has a mathematical basis for it, rather than using arbitrary factors to weight SOS or home/away wins, etc.
 
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I also wrote an indexer that predicts scores based on the formula.
Mississippi State by 26 over UAB
Missouri by 1 over Oklahoma
Auburn by 4 over LSU
Arkansas by 11 over Ole Miss
Oklahoma State by 8 over Nebraska
Click to expand...

The SPS betting gallery will be all over this.

/possible new 615-Meoff income stream.
//we'll talk offline.
 
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So the five to watch are:

Mississippi State -20 UAB
Missouri +3 Oklahoma
LSU +6 Auburn
Arkansas PK Ole Miss
Oklahoma State +6 Nebraska

I smell a five play parlay.
 
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what are your thoughts on conference rating?


I think this would kill the Boise's and TCU's of the world, but I think beating Vandy in the SEC is tougher than Iowa St in the Big 12... thoughts?

I think your opp opp's record covers this better than what i was point towards...
 
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Please keep in mind that I only learnt McClurian math, but why did you decide to make a team's record weigh so lightly (20%) compared to opponent's records (45%) and equal in importance to opponent's opponent's record (20%)? My gut instinct is that it would make more sense to go 45% record, 25 opponents and 10 for opponents opponents.<div>
</div><div>Not criticizing at all, this is a cool topic and your results came out very sensible, just wondering about the thought process.</div>
 
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that you have all this data stored in a SQL database, and then give me access. I would query the **** out of that thing all day long...
 
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If a team like Boise State is 10-0, but plays a bunch of nobodies, should they get equal footing over a team that is say, 8-2 and plays in the SEC?

Hypothetically, if Boise State were 10-0, and their opponents had a winning percentage of .5526 (current WAC winning percentage vs. non-WAC teams) and their opponents' opponents had a winning percentage of the same (.5526), then their index for these three categories would be

Boise State (assuming 34-33 total WAC record -7-0 for Boise State)
1.000 * .2 (.2000)+
.4897 *.45 (.2204)+
.4897 *.2 (.0979)
IndexA is .5183

Hypothetical 8-2 SEC Team (48-48 total SEC record - 6-2 for hypo team)
.800 *.2 (.1600)
.5785 * .45 (.2603)+
.5785*.2 (.1157)
IndexA is .5360

Say the hypothetical team is Auburn, which is rated 6th in offense and 63rd in defense against a Boise State team rated 3rd in both offense and defense (current rankings)
Boise Offense
.117 * .075= 0.0087
Boise Defense
.117 *.075=0.0087
Total Boise Index is .5357 vs.
Auburn Offense
.114 *.075 =0.0085
Auburn Defense
.057*.075=0.0004
Total Auburn Index is .5449

So, basically this formula says that an 8-2 Auburn team is slightly better (0.8%) than an 10-0 Boise team.

If I would have weighted team's actual record more, then the computer would say that Boise had an index of .6632 and Auburn had an index of .6003. Do you think a 10-0 Boise team is that much better than an 8-2 Auburn team?
 
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keep track of how your score predictions do this week. it may be a valuable tool to some of us degenerates on here.

great work.
 
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markymark said:
keep track of how your score predictions do this week. it may be a valuable tool to some of us degenerates on here.

great work.
Click to expand...
If he chose to he could run projections for games that have already been played and see how his predictions matched actual scores.
 
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2 questions/comments

1. I did not see home/road as a component of your formula (may have missed it). I think good road wins mean much more than good home wins. Boise over Va Tech, Texas over Nebraska, etc..should have those wins rewarded with a small bump.

2. Is margin of victory a factor? From what I understand, the BCS margins either eliminate or cap the margin of victory. The only reason I can see doing this is that a dominant run/good defense team may not post the margins that a great offense/don't give a crap defense will.
 
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State SHOULD win handily. (dead Indian spirits, take note: I did not say 'WOULD')
LSU defense = Auburn offense, but LSU offense > Aub defense, so I'm okay with that.
Arkansas all day.
And I like Ok State catching 6.

I can't wait to see how your Missouri theory pans out. If that one pays off... GIDDYUP.
 
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then you need to remove "Ole Miss" and replace it with "Mississippi" or "Black Bears" or something else other than you know what. Just throwing that out there.
 
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But I do data warehousing, web programming and database build. If you wanted to work this into a web site I would be happy to put some time into it. This would be a hell of a lot more productive than what I do with most of my free time. We could have it match every game against the Vegas line and track how it does as you adjust the formula. Just a thought...
 
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Mr Meoff

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For two years now, I have been conflicted. What do I call them?

Do I continue to follow Jackie Wayne's lead and use "Mississippi"? Which somehow, even though not really derogatory in any way on the surface, still managed to be quite irritating to them. Or, should I give our new young coach the nod and respect he's earning, and call them -- you know, the 4-letter initial thing?

Thank God and Khayat, I was provided the answer when, like a bolt of hilariously gay lightning from heaven, we were presented the Rebel Black Bears... Or is it Black Rebelbears..? Whichever. I'm in.
 
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