a PG and 2 more scholarship players- and this bunch would make the NIT

CadaverDawg

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Ha, Ha, Ha, who would get Mad over a message Board? I'll agree some of what you say comes to pass, but you say so much **** the law of averages helps you out. Hell, I was on board with Cohen from day 1, I hated Croom from day 1. Having Dick as an advisor is a good thing?? Hope he doesn't listen on pomgirl advice. **** yes, I've used many black (even pink and yellow) rotary phones, and your point was? If you really want creds as a Message Board Guru lose some of your smart assyness. I do like reading your post, sometimes for comic relief. So if you get tired of MB guruing try some stand up.

You would. And you did. (see above)

Im not against everything you're saying, but you are overreacting in a big way. It is far too early to draw the types of conclusions you're coming up with, in my opinion. Not trying to be an ***, just sayin.
 
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So we are Kentucky all of a sudden? I must've missed the press conference where we hired Calipari. And I'm not sure how you figure you can compare our entire roster of 8 players to any other team's TOP 8 players, who have a full complement of bench and walkon players on the team with them.

We can shorten the game all we want and we're still going to suck this season. We are starting a 3rd string PG and have started a walkon half of the year. There is nothing you can do to overcome that. So with that in mind, why not have these young players go ahead and get a full season under their belts playing the style that will be played in the years to come under Ray?

You hope Ray is the real deal but don't see it so far? The only reasons for that are because you either refuse to see actual facts or simply want to push an anti-Ray agenda. Either way you have yet to make even a halfway decent argument to support what you are spouting.
 

tcdog70

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You would. And you did. (see above)

Im not against everything you're saying, but you are overreacting in a big way. It is far too early to draw the types of conclusions you're coming up with, in my opinion. Not trying to be an ***, just sayin.

Ok, just what has RR done with this team (besides playing hard) that gives you a warm and fuzzy feeling that "All Is Well". I haven't seen in improvement in anyone other than Fred. Sword is out of control, Ware is just Ok and Johnson was so-so against OOC teams but is invisable in the SEC. When you are turning the ball over 25 plus times and getting beat by 30, then I think it is a Coaching fail.. How long do you to see something before you can tell? I have no agenda other than wanting MSU to at least be competitive, time will tell whose conclusions are correct and really I hope you are the One, I've eaten crow before.
 

BiscuitEater

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Ignorant ...

Coach34 This team is much more enjoyable to watch and support than any of the last 5 teams Stands had- they actually run a motion offense with movement included said:
just plain ignorant.

During those 5 years Stans went to two NCAATs, two NITs and had some good teams. Blaming Stans for Ray's incompetance is getting old. In '08, we went 12-4 in the SEC, in '09 we won the SECT. During those 5 years, we beat OM 7 out of 10 and Florida 3 out of 5. Four of the five years, he had a winning SEC record and even the disaster of last year, they won half of their SEC games.

Post again ... when Ray gets to 50% in SEC games.
 
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Hey look you guys, another post with the same argument that fails to address a single one of the questions that he has been asked to answer. Go figure.
 
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I'd just like to know how you know that Ray is incompetent? It doesn't take a genius to know that we were going to have a long season. What exactly did you expect this season to look like based upon all the players who left, the players who were 17 ups, and the injuries? What should Ray have done different? Why does he not get an opportunity to put out the dumpster fire that was burning before he is condemned as incompetent?

Seriously, Ray may not be the guy, but it baffles me how anyone can objectively look at the state this program was in when he took over, combine that with the injuries and other circumstances he has had to deal with since taking over, and then conclude that he is incompetent at this juncture.
 

goindhoo

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why does it matter that he is "African"? If he was American, would it be different? just curious
 

johnson86-1

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When you are turning the ball over 25 plus times and getting beat by 30, then I think it is a Coaching fail..

Or maybe it is the result of having a the third option on an already depleted team starting at point guard?
 

tcdog70

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why does it matter that he is "African"? If he was American, would it be different? just curious

what I meant was He doesn't have a good background in Basketball. He's not from America. he is raw, not polished. Just putting it out there as info. When you read about Him it states He is An African
 

Hump4Hoops

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Wow, you really must be Dawgbreeze's roomie at the home

"makes my *** suck buttermilk" might be the most 17ed up old man phrase I've ever heard.

Also, you're acting like Ray chose to only have 8 scholly players. Ray didn't choose to have all of our good players leave, have 3 season ending injuries, or end up with discipline problems that needed to go. Ray's style is hard, fast basketball, and he'll be damned if he's going to compromise that - he knows it's not going to be a great season, so he's using the year to get the players used to HIS system.

This is different than purposefully using 8 of the nations top 50 recruits, you assmilk.
 

tcdog70

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"makes my *** suck buttermilk" might be the most 17ed up old man phrase I've ever heard.

Also, you're acting like Ray chose to only have 8 scholly players. Ray didn't choose to have all of our good players leave, have 3 season ending injuries, or end up with discipline problems that needed to go. Ray's style is hard, fast basketball, and he'll be damned if he's going to compromise that - he knows it's not going to be a great season, so he's using the year to get the players used to HIS system.

This is different than purposefully using 8 of the nations top 50 recruits, you assmilk.

Wow, what a revelation, now I see it! NOT! The Buck stops with the Coach. Ray's style and not compromising it sounds a lot like the west coast offense and no compromise, do you remember where that took Us. Look I can stomach losing, but getting your *** stomped and being laughed at is not acceptable. Keep on thinking Ray is doing a great Job, you Newbie who doesn't know the square root of ****.
 

tcdog70

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Or maybe it is the result of having a the third option on an already depleted team starting at point guard?

Damn right you nailed it. Whose fault is it that you have a PG that can't play at Delta State? The stupid thing is to let that PG try to run a n uptempo offense where he is the main distributer of the ball.
 
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You are still making 2nd grade arguments. Please come back and see us when you are capable of actually making valid points.

I apologize to whoever I called the worst poster on the board the other week. Because you are easily the worst.
 

tcdog70

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You are still making 2nd grade arguments. Please come back and see us when you are capable of actually making valid points.

I apologize to whoever I called the worst poster on the board the other week. Because you are easily the worst.


what makes you the Official Grader of Post on Sixpack? And I fail to see any points you have made. You might qualify as worst, I think it's ok to vote for yourself. A judgemental Dickhead who can't see that a team that struggles like the Bulldogs is in deep ****. Now think I'll go and Cry because you don't like My post.
 

johnson86-1

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I guess you're right that it's stansbury's fault, but I don't think we should spend time blaming him. As bad as a situation as he left us in, my position is still that he should be seen just like the Kang. Even if it didn't end well, he's more or less responsible (with credit also going to Williams obviously) for thinking we can be winners in basketball.

As far as trying to let him run an uptempo offense, I seriously doubt Ray's approach is maximizing wins for this year, but I think it's the best long term approach. Getting a couple of extra wins isn't going to really change how we feel about this season. But I think getting the other players adapted to the style of basketball Ray wants to play will benefit us next year and the year after.