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Honestly I understand them going with Mullen if he wants them. No reason to stick around and hope you can stay at State if you're being offered a job at Florida with people you already know and work with. That happens in the "real world" all the time. I don't have any hard feelings for those folks, and honestly I don't even care about Mullen any more. Like Brandon Walker has said on his podcast. It's amazing how quickly I've moved on from Mullen.
Couldn't agree more. My wife is a big Gator fan (born and raised South of Tampa; family members attended UF); Merlinz leaving for Florida was initially a really sore subject and non-talking point in our house. Like RiverCityDawg, I moved on at the speed of light once JoMo was hired. The fewer discussion threads about him/former staff on the boards in general the better.
The next three years for Florida
2018 Music City Bowl
2019 Belk Bowl
2020 Gator Bowl
Millernz & Strickland - GONE
2018 Music City Bowl
2019 Belk Bowl
2020 Gator Bowl
Millernz & Strickland - GONE
There's nothing wrong with Knox going to UF, I just think its a waste of talent. He really impressed me in the bowl game, and now he is going to be at the bottom of the totem poll on Mullen's offensive staff. But maybe he will retain the title of special teams coordinator and have some constructive input on strategy from there. He will need to work on his onside kick plays, though.
I don't think so. Too many guaranteed wins in the East. Mullen is a great coach. Let's not get stupid just because he left us.
Does this put to rest any argument that Mullen wasn't given the $ to hire good assistants at State? After all, I'm sure he could have hired anyone he wanted at UF, and he opted to keep more than half of his staff.
I don't think it is stupid to recognize that Mullen was a middle tier coach and that Florida won't put up with that. I didn't want Mullen to leave but I wasn't blind to the fact that we did a lot of really stupid things and that the offense was getting dated and predictable. The prediction is valid as is the predicted reaction from Florida fans, just because you disagree doesn't make it stupid.
Everyone in the east will be better next year except UK and maybe Vandy.
They will lose no less than 3 games. That will be enough for some to already start with pressure at UF. They are not a patient bunch.
They will lose no less than 3 games. That will be enough for some to already start with pressure at UF. They are not a patient bunch.
After watching our Defense light up Jackson, they can put the hurt on you with or with out Grantham. I am not as sour to losing him as I was before the Gator Bowl. We got talent on our defense.
At least he let Knox stay til bowl game and didn't empty cupboard at one time. He probably had them draw straws to see who had to stay.
They fired the last guy who went to the championship game 2 out of 3 years. Now jawga on the upswing....it's not going to be pretty if he gets them 'the gator bowl'.
Which is why last season was as good as it ever gets with Grantham regardless of talent level and as shown throughout his career. He just can’t help himself bringing the heat even when his talent level up front doesn’t actually require him to gamble. He accomplished more with less and less with more...
Well none of those guys would have gotten jobs under JM except for Grantham and I don't even have a real firm understanding of how much JM attempted to keep him as DC. So no, I don't blame any of those guys for heading to FL.
Mullen is a very good coach but you can't throw around the word great on any P5 coach that doesn't win more than 8 games during the regular season but once in nine years. Now maybe he will become great coach at FL where theoretically he won't spend the last month of every season trying to find a better job and can focus on finishing well.
As soon as I learned about CoJoMo, I was pumped up. From the get-go, I have felt he is going to be a better overall coach, with a better offense, better recruiting, etc.
BUT, the one BIG caveat that still has me concerned is QB recruitment. IMO, a ton of Mullen's success (and ours) was due to being able to find, & draw QB talent and develop it. We need great dual-threat QB's to be successful. We need better QB's than the SEC elite's to have a shot against them.
As much as Dan frustrated me with personnel decisions, play-calling, clock-management, whoring himself out, etc, the one thing we could count on was that he was going to attract outstanding QB's for our system.
If CoJoMO can continue getting these great fits at QB, then I suspect our O is going to be quite a lot better than it was under Mullen. But if he can't bring in those QB's, we will most likely not be able to take the next step up...perhaps not even maintain the level we have got to under Mullen.
QB is just that important. And Mullen is known is the, "QB whisperer". I pray we don't begin to see those great QB's not consider us now that Dastardly Dan is gone.
IMO, we really need Fitz & KT to show improvement next year, and for KT to develop into a monster under CoJoMo's system. And we need Jalen Mayden to progress well. That way, we're more likely to continue to get interest from the level of talent at QB we need to be successful.
BUT, the one BIG caveat that still has me concerned is QB recruitment. IMO, a ton of Mullen's success (and ours) was due to being able to find, & draw QB talent and develop it. We need great dual-threat QB's to be successful. We need better QB's than the SEC elite's to have a shot against them.
As much as Dan frustrated me with personnel decisions, play-calling, clock-management, whoring himself out, etc, the one thing we could count on was that he was going to attract outstanding QB's for our system.
If CoJoMO can continue getting these great fits at QB, then I suspect our O is going to be quite a lot better than it was under Mullen. But if he can't bring in those QB's, we will most likely not be able to take the next step up...perhaps not even maintain the level we have got to under Mullen.
QB is just that important. And Mullen is known is the, "QB whisperer". I pray we don't begin to see those great QB's not consider us now that Dastardly Dan is gone.
IMO, we really need Fitz & KT to show improvement next year, and for KT to develop into a monster under CoJoMo's system. And we need Jalen Mayden to progress well. That way, we're more likely to continue to get interest from the level of talent at QB we need to be successful.
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Under Mullen, we saw the narrative that it's impossible to compete go by the wayside when we were number 1 into November of 2014. I'm looking forward to the next narrative falling: it will be easier for him to win at Florida.
And other schools have shown that with less than stellar QB play but sound fundamentals you can accomplish just as much. We don’t have to have the best QB in the SEC every year to compete.
Moorhead has shown just as much promise with his QBs as well. I’m excited.
Watching his offenses at Penn State and UConn he also seems to be able to fit the system to a particular player instead of having to have the perfect QB for his system.
Moorhead has shown just as much promise with his QBs as well. I’m excited.
Watching his offenses at Penn State and UConn he also seems to be able to fit the system to a particular player instead of having to have the perfect QB for his system.
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Not so much vs the elite of the SEC. Look at LSU. They almost always have way more talent, but have struggled recently, in part because they haven't had good QB play.
We rarely have the advantage of being comparable on talent at any position with the upper division SEC programs. But when we had the right QB, in addition to being, "close enough" at other positions, we had a chance to compete.
I want more than just going to a bunch of lower-tier bowls. While I don't expect us to really compete for SEC Championships as often as the blue-bloods, I do think we should be able to do it occasionally, mixed in with lower-tier bowls in off years, and better-tier bowls in really good years.
We need a great coaching staff (think we've got one), and great dual-threat QB's to do that.
We rarely have the advantage of being comparable on talent at any position with the upper division SEC programs. But when we had the right QB, in addition to being, "close enough" at other positions, we had a chance to compete.
I want more than just going to a bunch of lower-tier bowls. While I don't expect us to really compete for SEC Championships as often as the blue-bloods, I do think we should be able to do it occasionally, mixed in with lower-tier bowls in off years, and better-tier bowls in really good years.
We need a great coaching staff (think we've got one), and great dual-threat QB's to do that.