Ajani threw the best ball of the day.
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yeah, no one hits down on the ball for a long long time and certainly before my time. Make contact, drive through and lift was what we grew up with. Now it's launch angle from the word go.
Does Teel have any eligibility left? Doesn't he need a grad degree or something
I don't think anything you've said in this thread is wrong, but I could easily link a video to Strong's catch against Northwestern as a counterargument.
That was a great hand-catch in traffic but the ball was in-bounds and overhead. Very skilled catch but not that uncommon. Leap for catch and landing were pretty much straight up and down vertical axis.
The Minn WR (Daniel Jackson - All B1G 2nd team) had to catch the ball as it was going out-of bounds and on the line. WRs body was also rapidly exiting in-bound area, and he had to drag his toe almost 2 yards while doing a split. That was like some Simone Biles floor exercise stunt. His lead foot was way over the line before the catch was legit
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Your acuity on this, and the board’s, is grade-school level. His philosophy 20 years in a weak league which nearly lost BCS bowl access due to the best teams leaving such that UConn even won it once (but he didn’t) is absolutely not his philosophy in the Big10.
If he chooses AK as starter are you gonna STFU or just move on to your next troll topic?
I wasn’t able to watch this, but 8 of 16 in a spring scrimmage doesn’t pop out as encouraging for Gav on the accuracy improvement front. I’m not trying to be a downer, but he wasn’t even up against all first and second team guys on D - correct? That doesn’t seem like a great sign, am I missing something? Who cares if he broke free for some big runs against our second and third teamers.
I thought GW looked quicker and he never threw into trouble. AK looked great throwing the ball but that should’ve been pick 6 is a red flag. I think the OL play will determine which QB will start.
ETA we have a great D. TOs will earn you a seat on the bench.
I couldnt watch so I’m not necessarily comparing Gavin to anyone other than himself from last season. Turnovers were never really his issue. It’s accuracy. I was hoping to see strides in that area. 8 for 16 doesn’t seem great, albeit a small sample.
I saw the first three passes and it was all I could take. Johnson gets hit right in the numbers but (as usual with RU) he couldn't make the contested catch. Then you had a couple guys get hit in the hands and cant hold on. Looking like the Bad News Bears.
he had two that should have been INTs and I believe only 2 balls were right on point. Toure saved him on 2 passes making great use of his body
accuracy was like last year
first throw was last on the DB side that is not on Johnson. agree the other two should have been caught but all things even out as Toure made two really nice snags and the ball to Johnson I think was way high as wellI saw the first three passes and it was all I could take. Johnson gets hit right in the numbers but (as usual with RU) he couldn't make the contested catch. Then you had a couple guys get hit in the hands and cant hold on. Looking like the Bad News Bears.
Yeah unfortunately that’s what the stats seem to suggest. It’s a spring game so in my mind this was really all I was looking for as a take away.
Easy there on the receivers. First one above, definitely. GW seems to continue to have a problem throwing to the RB in the flat- that ball was way behind him, and the ball to the TE was out of reach if you watch it in slow motion.I saw the first three passes and it was all I could take. Johnson gets hit right in the numbers but (as usual with RU) he couldn't make the contested catch. Then you had a couple guys get hit in the hands and cant hold on. Looking like the Bad News Bears.
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It is a training technique for young hitters… wanna bet? …getting loft is fine as a hitter matures and learns but teaching hitting down is like in golf… shoulder closed … hands … bat speed.
Don't agree - those were bad plays by receivers. Rome Odunze and Marvin Harrison catch all those. People need to realize good WRs catch iffy passes, bad passes, off-passes etc. Many times the QB isn't trying to make the perfect throw because they are the easiest to INT. You put the ball off target a bit where the WR has the best chance to get it and not the DB. Some of those will get away from the QB - good WRs help. Watch the best teams and look how many times the WRs make receptions happen - they can be like magicians. Its a long season if everyone is expecting perfect spirals in the numbers. The Minn WR caught a sketchy pass. Good WRs do that - they aren't just hands.
Neither one of those players were "WRs". Second one was a RB, and third one was a recently converted TE. So we agree!!!Don't agree - those were bad plays by receivers. Rome Odunze and Marvin Harrison catch all those. People need to realize good WRs catch iffy passes, bad passes, off-passes etc. Many times the QB isn't trying to make the perfect throw because they are the easiest to INT. You put the ball off target a bit where the WR has the best chance to get it and not the DB. Some of those will get away from the QB - good WRs help. Watch the best teams and look how many times the WRs make receptions happen - they can be like magicians. Its a long season if everyone is expecting perfect spirals in the numbers. The Minn WR caught a sketchy pass. Good WRs do that - they aren't just hands.
Whatever they are they don't look like B1G players (spesh Johnson who plays very meek - saw others plays too)Neither one of those players were "WRs". Second one was a RB, and third one was a recently converted TE. So we agree!!!
If a ball hits you in the numbers and hands it needs to be caught in B1G. I watched 15 years of Army plays like this lol.
Based solely on the spring game Ajani has the best arm. His throws are effortless and with zip. Now does that translate into a starting QB? You would have to be a practice every day to figure that out.
Young hitters where? Last guy I saw hit down on the ball was a guy named Bob Keller, a former Dodger minor leaguer, who I played semi pro ball with in the late 1950's.
The first one looked to be on his left shoulder. Can't tell if defender got hand in there or not. This was the most catchable of the 3.
Throw in the flat can't be expected to be caught. He is moving upfield and has to turn completely around trying to catch the ball while his momentum is taking him away from the ball. What's the result if he catches it? Being consistent with these throws is a requirement (in my mind) for GW to remain in consideration for the starting spot.
On the 3rd one, one hand got some fingers on it? That's a catchable ball for a TE diving for it?? That's not an easy throw to make though. I wouldn't have GW trying that if I were the OC. It's playing to his weakness.
Saying our 3rd/4th string TE should have caught the ball because the #1 receiver in the country could have made that play shows a lack of awareness.
On the throw to Johnson (5th string?), it's hard to tell if the DB's hand prevented the catch or if Johnson just didn't make the contested catch. With the ball thrown on the wrong side with super tight coverage, the defense should win that battle. I did like the tight coverage(kudos to the DB).
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Pretty much everyone agreed that the Johnson ball should have been caught. The slant was thrown completely behind which we saw all last year, and the other would have needed to be a great catch. And you are comparing a running back and tight end to 2 first round WR draft picks????Whatever they are they don't look like B1G players (spesh Johnson who plays very meek - saw others plays too)
If a ball hits you in the numbers and hands it needs to be caught in B1G. I watched 15 years of Army plays like this lol.
Teaching hitting back in early 80’s to 90’s. Now they teach launch … worthless… that’s why most hitters bat under 245-250. What did I say? It is done in order to instill keeping head on ball and attempting to avoid lifting head out.There are many philosophies on teaching young hitters beginning in the sport. This was not about older . In fact my 8 year old grand daughter plays in Massapequa.NY LL against boys.A former MLB player 2 weeks ago commented to my son. She’s really good… solid … who taught her? Son says,” my father taught me and I started with her the past year. So remember there are multiple ways of teaching hitting. In my day… stickball… wiffle ball … stickball… on and on.
Looky - I know most people here hate (hate) Wimsatt.
But they dont have to get silly about what they see.
Its the B1G! A ball hits a scholarship in the hands/chest he's supposed to catch it.
Its not baseball with balls and strikes.
Even if one guy did have an excuse there were three crummy goof drops in a row.
Think tOSU had three drops in a row?
A completion % takes two - actually more if you include OL (GW did have some pressure on his throws compared to others).
There was also this in addition to the TD run - the GW specialty (yes - he a spread QB technically).
The guy throws for a TD and runs for two and gallops up the field and people talk about him like he's worst ever. Ajani is actually my main guy just because he played local
LOL. Your analysis is so sophisticated. Lots of data points to work with.
Greg likes pro style, that’s the old school philosophy. Your logic makes no sense. If He wasn’t able to get a top QB with that skill set would have. Unfortunately they go elsewhere. He got a top rated dual QB who he’s been trying to improve.
Your hate of Greg colors your thinking.
Brilliant. So close but still so far. Why do they go elsewhere ? Because of him. Because of philosophy. Obvious as the day is long. He gets good defensive players. They succeed under him. QBs don’t. That’s why they stay away. Now , get back to your elementary school classroom.
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Yeah all this launch angle stuff is a lot of crap. Don't know what or how you were teaching on the lower level. You may have been unique. All I know is that I haven't seen it for many decades including with the kids I had coming into 3 different Legion teams over the years. Certainly haven't seen a pro ballplayer or a college player hit down on a ball in multiple decades.
Even if Gavin threw for 300 + yards - 4 TD’s - ran for 70 yds. With zero Interceptions some on this board would say he’s terrible. Think people need to let the staff decide this one. All said these 4 QB’s are better than what we had for sometime .
Guess you didn’t watch Ted Williams. He actually had a segment on hitting down on the ball…. Similar to golf.
Also had a great conversation with Lou Pinella in the 80’s … a proponent of Charlie Lau . As an Ex catcher it always fascinated me the many different hitting philosophies out there. Also learned from Fred Hill, Mike Sheppard and another local guy Joe Wladyka all college coaches and quite reputable.