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huskerfan1414

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I guess Im looking at the big picture, I grew up watching NU football during the 70's 80's and 90's. and I don't remember firing the coach every other year. in fact one big plus is we had a lot of coaches with decades of experience. so when we would play another team, all of milt's and dan young boys knew who they were going to block. mcbride had a good clue of who need to do what also. It also seemed like Dr. Tom had a lil system going himself. this experience seemed to pay off.

we have had 3 coaches since Dr. Tom left and kept them an average of lets say 4 years. how has this panned out for us?
where do we find ourself today?
is this high coaching turnover a wise thing?
the results I have seen suggest not.

I have no problem with real NU fans being upset. what I do have a problem with is knee jerk reactions that will leave NU going thru coach after coach without them building anything.

we gave spaz bo like 7 years, and now we want to can riley after not even 2 and a half years? this seems questionable to me.

expecially when riley is probably trying to do the hardest thing possible, building a pure passing offense at Nebraska.
You aren't the only one who grew up watching Nebraska football.
You remember we didn't always fire coaches.
I don't remember us ever sucking this much *** either and failing expectations this much. Osborne did t come close to this. It's not the same thing.
Yes we gave bo too many years...you're point?
 

redwine65

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Did I mention Bo? The posts are archived. Go ahead and post my pro Bo posts.

And you are the one who posted the “no blowouts” metric not to mention the 9 wins
I guess Im looking at the big picture, I grew up watching NU football during the 70's 80's and 90's. and I don't remember firing the coach every other year. in fact one big plus is we had a lot of coaches with decades of experience. so when we would play another team, all of milt's and dan young boys knew who they were going to block. mcbride had a good clue of who need to do what also. It also seemed like Dr. Tom had a lil system going himself. this experience seemed to pay off.

we have had 3 coaches since Dr. Tom left and kept them an average of lets say 4 years. how has this panned out for us?
where do we find ourself today?
is this high coaching turnover a wise thing?
the results I have seen suggest not.

I have no problem with real NU fans being upset. what I do have a problem with is knee jerk reactions that will leave NU going thru coach after coach without them building anything.

we gave spaz bo like 7 years, and now we want to can riley after not even 2 and a half years? this seems questionable to me.

especially when riley is probably trying to do the hardest thing possible, building a pure passing offense at Nebraska.
 

redwine65

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You aren't the only one who grew up watching Nebraska football.
You remember we didn't always fire coaches.
I don't remember us ever sucking this much *** either and failing expectations this much. Osborne did t come close to this. It's not the same thing.
Yes we gave bo too many years...you're point?
see above:
 

huskerfan1414

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fine, fire riley and bring in the next musical chair coaches
Point out where I said fire Riley.
And answer the question. How does it equal that those calling for Riley to be fired after the particulars of this season are expecting 1995 or 13-0?
I'm sure you'll just dump more bs on your pile instead of answering.
 

jlb321_rivals110621

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I guess Im looking at the big picture, I grew up watching NU football during the 70's 80's and 90's. and I don't remember firing the coach every other year. in fact one big plus is we had a lot of coaches with decades of experience. so when we would play another team, all of milt's and dan young boys knew who they were going to block. mcbride had a good clue of who need to do what also. It also seemed like Dr. Tom had a lil system going himself. this experience seemed to pay off.

we have had 3 coaches since Dr. Tom left and kept them an average of lets say 4 years. how has this panned out for us?
where do we find ourself today?
is this high coaching turnover a wise thing?
the results I have seen suggest not.

I have no problem with real NU fans being upset. what I do have a problem with is knee jerk reactions that will leave NU going thru coach after coach without them building anything.

we gave spaz bo like 7 years, and now we want to can riley after not even 2 and a half years? this seems questionable to me.

especially when riley is probably trying to do the hardest thing possible, building a pure passing offense at Nebraska.

If you were seeing the big picture you would see that no coach at Nebraska has had 2 non winning seasons in any 3 year time span in damn near 50 years. Riley is at serious risk of accomplishing something that hasn’t occurred at Nebraska in nearly a half a century. Please don’t lecture us about the big picture. All this talk about unrealistic expectations is a joke. The vast majority, including myself, support bringing him back if he wins 7 games. Expectations have been nuked and he is still at serious risk of coming in below them
 

redwine65

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Point out where I said fire Riley.
And answer the question. How does it equal that those calling for Riley to be fired after the particulars of this season are expecting 1995 or 13-0?
I'm sure you'll just dump more bs on your pile instead of answering.

https://nebraska.forums.rivals.com/threads/scott-frost.187595/

https://nebraska.forums.rivals.com/...-as-our-head-coach.188727/page-2#post-3784820

https://nebraska.forums.rivals.com/...e-are-statue-qbs-and-ol-who-cant-move.188686/

https://nebraska.forums.rivals.com/...not-miss-recruiting-year.188329/#post-3775251

try not to be so self centered
 

redwine65

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hmmm...... looks like we have to win out ... and don't forget no huge blowouts ( does 3 TDs at home qualify as a blowout??)
feel free to post this thread so we may read it in context, grazi in advance
 

redwine65

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If you were seeing the big picture you would see that no coach at Nebraska has had 2 non winning seasons in any 3 year time span in damn near 50 years. Riley is at serious risk of accomplishing something that hasn’t occurred at Nebraska in nearly a half a century. Please don’t lecture us about the big picture. All this talk about unrealistic expectations is a joke. The vast majority, including myself, support bringing him back if he wins 7 games. Expectations have been nuked and he is still at serious risk of coming in below them


considering the state bo left the program in. I think riley has done well, I suggest you read the book , more than winning. a old football coach wrote it and no it wasn't nicky saben
 

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considering the state bo left the program in. I think riley has done well, I suggest you read the book , more than winning. a old football coach wrote it and no it wasn't nicky saben

By any chance was that book authored by the same person quoted below ???



"The parameters, I think, were fairly clearly spelled out, " Osborne said Saturday.

Nebraska was 4-4 when Osborne met with Nebraska coaches a week after replacing fired Athletic Director Steve Pederson. The staff wanted to know some benchmarks as far as what they had to do.

Osborne said go 4-0 and get to 8-4 and things would be fine. Play well, win three of four, get to 7-5 and — although no guarantees — maybe it could still work.

Then came the bottom line in a cold business.

"If it's two out of four, " Osborne told them, "it's going to be pretty tough, because now you're breaking even (6-6) and we haven't had many break-even seasons around here. And I said if we have a losing season, I don't think there's any way that this will work."
 

redwine65

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By any chance was that book authored by the same person quoted below ???



"The parameters, I think, were fairly clearly spelled out, " Osborne said Saturday.

Nebraska was 4-4 when Osborne met with Nebraska coaches a week after replacing fired Athletic Director Steve Pederson. The staff wanted to know some benchmarks as far as what they had to do.

Osborne said go 4-0 and get to 8-4 and things would be fine. Play well, win three of four, get to 7-5 and — although no guarantees — maybe it could still work.

Then came the bottom line in a cold business.

"If it's two out of four, " Osborne told them, "it's going to be pretty tough, because now you're breaking even (6-6) and we haven't had many break-even seasons around here. And I said if we have a losing season, I don't think there's any way that this will work."
"Athletic Director Steve Pederson"

that was before bo left the program in shambles.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-last-act-one-of-selfishness-and-childishness
 

Mack In Motion

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considering the state bo left the program in. I think riley has done well

I keep seeing this sentiment posted. I was under the impression that Pelini left this program consistently winning 9 and consistently losing big to good teams.

Did I slip into a coma for an entire season where we went 0-12? If so, you’re correct. Riley is doing well.
 

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I'll agree it hasn't always been pretty. We haven't put together 4 quarters of good football in any of our games yet. We got to 2-1/2 against Wisconsin and had a half against Oregon. Maybe we finally put 4 together in one game against OSU?

This is my problem. In Riley's third year, we are still talking about putting four quarters of good football together. It's a coaching gaff, Pelini's fault, an assistant coaching problem, and etc.....

Progress does not mean what we have seen over the last 10 games.
 
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HuskerDana_rivals188993

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I'll agree it hasn't always been pretty. We haven't put together 4 quarters of good football in any of our games yet. We got to 2-1/2 against Wisconsin and had a half against Oregon. Maybe we finally put 4 together in one game against OSU?

Sooo....year three. And we are now just HOPING that MR can somehow get his team prepared enough to play 4 good quarters of football to keep the game respectable. Gotcha.

As I have said numerous times, nobody would be happier than I to see MR run the table. If he can't, I'd prefer to take our chances with someone else. 64.....and back to 2007 sucks.
 
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By any chance was that book authored by the same person quoted below ???



"The parameters, I think, were fairly clearly spelled out, " Osborne said Saturday.

Nebraska was 4-4 when Osborne met with Nebraska coaches a week after replacing fired Athletic Director Steve Pederson. The staff wanted to know some benchmarks as far as what they had to do.

Osborne said go 4-0 and get to 8-4 and things would be fine. Play well, win three of four, get to 7-5 and — although no guarantees — maybe it could still work.

Then came the bottom line in a cold business.

"If it's two out of four, " Osborne told them, "it's going to be pretty tough, because now you're breaking even (6-6) and we haven't had many break-even seasons around here. And I said if we have a losing season, I don't think there's any way that this will work."
Game. Set. Match
 
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SnohomishRed

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I'll agree it hasn't always been pretty. We haven't put together 4 quarters of good football in any of our games yet. We got to 2-1/2 against Wisconsin and had a half against Oregon. Maybe we finally put 4 together in one game against OSU?
This post is a very telling sign of what this program has come too. Expectations are not too high for many fans right they are too low. We just suffered one of the worst home defeats in the last ten years and the half the fan base doesn't seem to mind
 

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I guess Im looking at the big picture, I grew up watching NU football during the 70's 80's and 90's. and I don't remember firing the coach every other year. in fact one big plus is we had a lot of coaches with decades of experience. so when we would play another team, all of milt's and dan young boys knew who they were going to block. mcbride had a good clue of who need to do what also. It also seemed like Dr. Tom had a lil system going himself. this experience seemed to pay off.

we have had 3 coaches since Dr. Tom left and kept them an average of lets say 4 years. how has this panned out for us?
where do we find ourself today?
is this high coaching turnover a wise thing?
the results I have seen suggest not.

I have no problem with real NU fans being upset. what I do have a problem with is knee jerk reactions that will leave NU going thru coach after coach without them building anything.

we gave spaz bo like 7 years, and now we want to can riley after not even 2 and a half years? this seems questionable to me.

especially when riley is probably trying to do the hardest thing possible, building a pure passing offense at Nebraska.
Maybe that sums it up right there. If building a pure passing offense at Nebraska is the hardest thing possible.......why would he attempt it? It certainly hasn't ever proved to be the BEST thing. He doesn't need to impress this fan base by doing the hardest thing possible badly. He needs to do the best thing well.
 
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considering the state bo left the program in. I think riley has done well, I suggest you read the book , more than winning. a old football coach wrote it and no it wasn't nicky saben

I've read the book.....a little hint. The guy was never close to a losing season yet alone 2 in 3 years. You seem to inferring that there is more to the game than losing.
 
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Bo left the program on a string of seven seasons with at least 9 wins.

So doing worse two out of three years is doing well.

Wow

Bo left a program with a grand total of 4 scholarship LBs on the roster. The AD made a massive mistake by letting him off the hook. He should have given him another two or three years to run the program in the ground.
 
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"Athletic Director Steve Pederson"

that was before bo left the program in shambles.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-last-act-one-of-selfishness-and-childishness

Its pretty obvious that Bo needed to go since him and SE couldn't get along. His anger issues associated with that relationship were certainly reaching a boiling point. What I continually get amazed at is the people who said MR would immediately start challenging for Championships because he was being given the keys to the Ferrari. Any trained monkey could win 9 games at Nebraska.

Until he didn't. And then the excuse makers broke into the cancer, the toxic, the empty cupboard. These all came AFTER MR started losing. And its like anything.......if you repeat it enough you start believing it. What they haven't accepted is that this staff has failed to get the buy in. There is much more proof in results to see that then some type of Bo cancer.

Just look around? Our play on the field, unorganized, poor decisions, poor preparation and development. We shouldn't even have to compare ourselves to Scott Frost at UCF. There is a reason people are doing it and its not because of Bo.

This whole fight regarding whether MR is what we need is only festered by the people still blaming everything on Bo. Once they get over that they can see what most see. In their minds they will be blaming Bo in 2025 because we had a 7 year gap of bad coaching. They are doing it now with FS and BC. They are just tacking on one more name to protect MR.
 
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Sooo....year three. And we are now just HOPING that MR can somehow get his team prepared enough to play 4 good quarters of football to keep the game respectable. Gotcha.

As I have said numerous times, nobody would be happier than I to see MR run the table. If he can't, I'd prefer to take our chances with someone else. 64.....and back to 2007 sucks.

Well if we're being honest about it, when was the last time Nebraska played a complete game under any coach? Maybe the bowl win over UCLA? Before that game?