An answer to Jeffrey (lock if you wish mods this is short)

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

I applaud your call to all the internet faithful to eliminate the racist **** on Twitter that is often associate with Mississippi to help promote the "purity" of the state to the rest of the nation.

I do have to say though that once again your "Flagship" is far ahead of the Maroon and White family when it comes to embarrassing the image of Mississippi.

Tell you what, when you eliminate the **** for more than a couple of years, the Cow College folk might too.

Ya'll are the leaders in Mississippi, right?

Night.

 

[cheewgumm]

He said "Jeffey", right? I figured he was mentally handicapped.

nms

 

[drt7891]

Straight from the Horse's Mouth...



I believe there was a Klan rally over this, if I remember correctly.

 

[NewTweederEndzoneDance]

Yeah because our working to inflame racial tensions over a 17ing football game isn't just plain 17ing retarded. We can't and don't control what Ole Miss does, but let them bury themselves. There is no reason to stoop to that level. Our entire fanbase needs to quit playing that ******** game.

 

[gravedigger]

Hey Jeffey....confederate army, old south....it's a package deal.


you were thinking maybe something else? long since gone?

ask your boy crunchy mike.

that was what.....couple years ago?

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Hey Jeffey....confederate army, old south....it's a package deal.

Gotta be honest, I'm bout tired of this false, sanctimonious horseshit every time I see some reference to us as the Confederates with State fans depicting State as the people's university and distancing it from this state's past. Though chartered some 13 years after the Civil War ended, I betcha some members of the Confederacy were administrators at MSU or alums of MSU or had children, grandchildren, etc. who attended.

Starkville did happen to be in Mississippi at that time as well, and y'all happen to also do Old South-related parties, events, galas - even to this day. Never had an interest for it myself during my time in Oxford, but each school has that group that can't get enough of it, for whatever reason.

Kind of reminds me of Bill Hicks' take on the smokers-non-smokers argument:

"I have something to tell you non-smokers that I know for a fact that you don't know, and I feel it's my duty to pass on information at all times. Ready?. . . Non-smokers die every day . . . Enjoy your evening. See, I know that you entertain this eternal life fantasy because you've chosen not to smoke, but let me be the 1st to POP that bubble and bring you hurling back to reality . . . You're dead too.”

You can throw the Confederate moniker at us all you wish, but fact of the matter is, y'all are also located within the state of Mississippi, with alums/connections to the Civil War and Confederacy, and students who still celebrate both. Throw us under the bus if you must, but there is blood on your hands too.

 

[Dental Dawg]

Just like smokers vs no-smokers.
I wish you 17'ers weren't around and never existed. So go smoke and race riot in Oxford and get the 17 off our board. Y'all are nothing but a bunch of arrogant pricks who think they're witty.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Just like smokers vs no-smokers.
I wish you 17'ers weren't around and never existed. So go smoke and race riot in Oxford and get the 17 off our board. Y'all are nothing but a bunch of arrogant pricks who think they're witty.

Sorry if I touched a nerve. Just tired of my entire fanbase being labeled racist, confederates, etc. by a school that also happens to have ties to the war and people who are racist, even today. I'm not here talking smack about a recruit or comparing classes or Oxford to Starkville, etc.

I'm not saying the racists are the majority at each school either. But both have their pockets of idiots who just aren't going to evolve, and will gladly judge a person based on the color of their skin. Just pointing out the Confederate label so many State fans put on us actually happens to be one that could easily be put on them as well. This state had more than just Ole Miss students in the Civil War.

 

[Dental Dawg]

Can we agree that y'all are arrogant pricks.

 

[drt7891]

Sorry if I touched a nerve. Just tired of my entire fanbase being labeled racist, confederates, etc. by a school that also happens to have ties to the war and people who are racist, even today.

No one is bitching about ties to the confederacy... Let's have a history lesson, shall we?

Ole Miss...

1. Calls Yourselves Ole Miss... what slaves called the plantation owner's wife (straight from your website)
2. Play Dixie (old times there are NOT forgotten...)
3. STILL waves confederate flags (they are all over the GROOOOVEEEEEE... and don't try to tell me they aren't). Your fans also brought them on sticks to the 2007 Egg Bowl
4. Wear Confederate Grey Uniforms at football games (ties to your mascot, the "Rebels..." I'm not going to touch that right now... )
5. Up until 4 years ago, played "from Dixie, with Love" in which your ENTIRE STUDENT SECTION would scream "The South Will Rise aGAIN" at the end of it (see above video). There was also a Klan rally over the decision by your president to remove the song. Student's were pissed... but the Klan rally actually HELPED your chancellor's cause some...

And you would be right that there are Confederate ties to MSU... there's a confederate statue right by Lee Hall of a confederate soldier. Hell, General Lee (our first president... the main building on campus is named for him) was a confederate General. But if you look into the guy, he wasn't know for his "loyalty to the south" or "tradeeshuns 'n Huuurrrtaagggee," he was credited for creating the structure for A&M Colleges to Succeed. Care to read about that history? Clemson, Auburn, and Texas A&M are all structured after Mississippi A&M. Lee helped them get started. Fact.

But here's the kicker... our school doesn't EMBRACE TRADITIONS OF THE OLD SOUTH. We wear maroon and white... have an MState logo... and are called the Bulldogs. We Also had a basketball team that defied state orders NOT to play in the NCAA Tournament, did anyway against a black team in Chicago. I was taught of the Ole Miss riots in Mississippi Studies in 9th grade (along with Kent State). It still haunts you guys to this day, even after the elections. There were MSU students who were also very pissed that Obama was reelected... I saw it on Facebook, but none of them made national news burning signs and shouting racial slurs in public.

Lastly, OM didn't want Mississippi A&M in the 1850s... because it was full of self-righteous aristocrats who wanted nothing to do with engineering or farming. In three years, the A&M school didn't even crack 20 students. OM sold the land they got to the state BACK to the state.

And here we are... still going at it over the same **** because NOTHING HAS CHANGED. Do you get it now?

 

[dickiedawg]

Yes, we have a shared history. Yes, there are bigots and racists at both schools. But ours doesn't openly embrace and glorify that bygone era EVERY SINGLE DAY by calling ourselves rebels, playing Dixie, putting confederate flags on all our tailgating tents or shouting "the south will rise again." We didn't recently have a KKK rally on campus.

You've made some strides, with the stick ban and getting rid of the slavedriver mascot. But when all your colors, nicknames, etc. are still based on the "old south," don't get pissed when someone calls you on it.

 

[RebelBruiser]

All the race crap just makes your fan base look desperate.

It's like playing the race card in an argument. It just proves you have nothing else, and you're in desperation mode.

I realize we have a past. I realize we still have some idiots, but we sure as hell don't have the monopoly on them, and to be honest I've seen more complaints about inter-racial relationships on this board in the past week than I've seen from Ole Miss fans in years.

Keep on keepin on though. I'm of the belief that the desperate attempts to paint us in a bad light more often than not end up working in our favor on the recruiting trail.

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

who think they're witty.

They're half-right.

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

17 your "shared history". My ancestors fought for AMERICA against you Rebel bastards. This is what my ancestors looked like marching in victory over a bunch of slaveholding Rebels

 

[Dental Dawg]

This has nothing to do with recruiting. This conversation has gone on every month of the year. Until y'all change it will continue to go on.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

The past needs to be the past, because both of our pasts suck.

However, the From Dixie With Love incident is inexcusable. There are 49 FBS schools located in the former Confederacy and only one used to shout "The South Will Rise Again." And granted, I think a lot of the people were just going along with the crowd and not trying to be racist, but after it became a national story that black people were offended by it and the university formally asked people to stop, so many students STILL kept shouting it? Inexcusable.

The "incident" following Obama's reelection? There are 124 FBS schools in the country, all of which had Romney supporters, but only 1 FBS school had a nasty racial incident. And apparently the main perpetrators only got a slap in the wrist. Again, inexcusable.

347 schools play Division I basketball, but only Ole Miss's coach is known for calling a cabbie a sand n-word. He wasn't fired or reprimanded.

I'm not saying every Ole Miss fan is a racist, but they can't be surprised that people think of Ole Miss that way.

 

[Lawdawg.sixpack]

Sorry if I touched a nerve. Just tired of my entire fanbase being labeled racist, confederates, etc. by a school that also happens to have ties to the war and people who are racist, even today. I'm not here talking smack about a recruit or comparing classes or Oxford to Starkville, etc.

I'm not saying the racists are the majority at each school either. But both have their pockets of idiots who just aren't going to evolve, and will gladly judge a person based on the color of their skin. Just pointing out the Confederate label so many State fans put on us actually happens to be one that could easily be put on them as well. This state had more than just Ole Miss students in the Civil War.

So, basically, it's exactly like when Ole Miss fans call State fans rednecks. You just remember this argument next time you choose to generalize in the same fashion. Because, though most nafoomers probably refuse to see it, there are PLENTY of sidewalk Ole Miss fans, who are fans because they love cheering for the "Rebels".

 

[Hump4Hoops]

You're delusional. There's a reason ole miss attracts racists.

You can cover it up with a black bear all you want, but all of the symbols of your university are meant to romanticize the confederate slavery era. Everything from your backwards fight song, your interpretation of colonel reb, the confederate flags, and your school colors that draw from it. Oh, and your school's nickname, "ole miss." Your own website pointed out its racist origins.

You may not claim the KKK, but it sure seems to like you. That's not by random chance. If I were a racist, I'd try to affiliate myself with the most racist sounding/looking school in the country, too.

ole miss has the lowest black student population of all of the state's major universities. A staggering 13%, in a state that's almost 40% black. I wonder how low that would get if you took out all of the athletes?

Is ole miss a university full of nothing but cross burning ghosts? No. But it's significantly more racist than any other school in the country.

 

[gravedigger]

homer, it's not Mississippi's past that we are beating you up about. It's the fact that you are using the very past as a symbol of your school...TODAY

The colors, the song, the flag the mascot and the name. Sure Mississippi's past is a part of MSU too, but we dont choose to use those images.

You do. So you get what comes with them.

Some decide to let that past go. Ole Miss, chooses to call itself by a name so that people have that image. We are the people's university and we exhibit that by being willing to accept the moniker of an agriculture school.

again, you want the colors, songs and the nic name. You want the image of the old south.

you got it.

 

[hatfieldms]

Exactly

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