And so the mass exodus to 3A begins...

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Wish I could've been alive during these games that y'all are mentioning. I bet that kind of high school football was second-to-none.
 

Powidz

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The playoffs were a monster back then as they were not split. Plus it seemed that the east could hold their own back then with the west none of the typical blow outs you see know mostly by the west over the east.
 

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The following schools were all 4A at some point in the past 25-30 years..
and kinda hard to believe

Jacksonville
Havelock
Northeastern
No Nash
Rocky Mount
Kinston
Hunt
Fike
Beddingfield
Eastern Wayne
Southern Wayne
Goldsboro
Triton
Smithfield-Selma
Oxford Webb
Henderson Vance (split to make So Vance & No Vance)
 
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The following schools were all 4A at some point in the past 25-30 years..
and kinda hard to believe

Jacksonville
Havelock
Northeastern
No Nash
Rocky Mount
Kinston
Hunt
Fike
Beddingfield
Eastern Wayne
Southern Wayne
Goldsboro
Triton
Smithfield-Selma
Oxford Webb
Henderson Vance (split to make So Vance & No Vance)
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How's life treating on you on west side?
 

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The playoffs were a monster back then as they were not split. Plus it seemed that the east could hold their own back then with the west none of the typical blow outs you see know mostly by the west over the east.

Times in general were much simpler back in the day. In the 1980's most teams did not throw the ball that often and passing schemes were not very sophisticated. The west coast offense was just coming of age in the NFL.

A lot of option offense even at the 4A level and a premium was on defense. Our coach always preached scoring thr 3rd point which was 15. Our D was very good and he felt if we scored 15 we would win most of our games and we usually did.

It would be unheard of today but the first day of practice I sorted through a drum of used cleats and found a matching pair of Riddells. As a receiver we didnt have gloves - it was bare hands all the way. Players certainly didnt expect all the fancy equipment like they have today.

If you didnt win your conference you might not make the playoffs. In 1981 we finished second to Jacksonville in conference but went into the playoffs as the 3rd ranked team in the state. Luckily we had 2 representatives that year.
 

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They were loaded. They also had Tim Morrison who went to UNC and played briefly for Redskins.
 

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NHHS had 1 NBA (Kenny Gattison) and one NFL player on that squad. Clyde Simmons was a long time professional defensive end and is in the top 20 all time sack leaders. And those two weren't even the best athletes and players on that team.
 

T Roy C_rivals

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Add Westover, Byrd, Terry Sanford and Lee County to the above list.

Very good point. I was thinking of the more eastern or rural/semi-area area teams but forgot about those schools. Crazy to me a bunch of Fayetteville teams in 3A. However, the craziest to me is NHHS in 3A...just something so wrong about that. I heard once that in 1965 they were one of the 3 largest enrollment high schools in NC. Not sure if true but seems likely.
 

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All is good on the West side..Heard you are retired now. Hope you are takin it easy and those Scots don't kill you for jumping on their bandwagon and brining them bad luck LOL


Yes retired. Enjoyed it.
Go Scots is my bestie.......You thank he's hilarious on here. You should see him in person. Looks like a character from The Hee Haw Show

Good times!
 

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They had a great linebacker named Kelvin Crooms. He went to NC State and Griffen to Clemson.

Griffen's son played at South when the family moved back to NC. He is now at Tennessee which is the city where he grew up in.
 

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NHHS had 1 NBA (Kenny Gattison) and one NFL player on that squad. Clyde Simmons was a long time professional defensive end and is in the top 20 all time sack leaders. And those two weren't even the best athletes and players on that team.[/QUOTE.
I remember Kenny and Clyde, but the one we heard about was some kid name Boney. Kenny is the one that gave us problems. Hoggard had those "BIG" Samoan boys that would lay the Smackdown on you. We were 9-1 in 77 and 79, and didn't sniff the playoffs.
 

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That would be Rondro Boney who played RB and linebacker. He was a physical specimen and a great athlete.

The Hoggard guys you speak of are the Tootoos. Larry, Stanley, Henry and maybe a couple more. Great football players and very good people - even for Hoggard guys :)
 

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Scotland County will be Scotland County Dude. If you want to talk football we can, but the other **** we don't need. There is alot of great football players in Scotland County and I don't think you could get on the field in SC. You can keep that other bullspit to yourself Dude. Have a Merry Xmas and a Scots New Year.
I must have struck a nerve. Being enlightened usually does that.
 

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Terry Sanford also knocked New Hanover and Gattison out of the basketball playoffs that year.
 

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Mike graduated in 1981. The team Middle is referring to was the 81-82 team. NHHS was 25 - 0 heading into the playoffs before losing to TS. The football and basketball teams lost a total of 3 games that year - 2 to Terry Sanford.
 

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They also had a One Man Show over at Laney that year. I think his name was Mike Jordan.
I know this is a football site but I played against Post 50 in the 1980 American Legion playoffs. You may remember Paul Williams and Dyke Anstead plus a few guys from McColl SC, including Mike Currie.

We also played against Scotland in the 1982 high school playoffs. You may remember Mitch Wells and Shannon Sellers.
 

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By the way I will say I am a Fayetteville native and my allegiance is to Fayetteville. I do own a house in Wilmington off Middle Sound thus my old user name. I pull for Hoggard as far as Wilmington is concerned. I remember when Hoggard played in the Fayetteville conference in the day. They were always good and very physical back in the day.
 

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By the way I will say I am a Fayetteville native and my allegiance is to Fayetteville. I do own a house in Wilmington off Middle Sound thus my old user name. I pull for Hoggard as far as Wilmington is concerned. I remember when Hoggard played in the Fayetteville conference in the day. They were always good and very physical back in the day.
Just when I was starting to like you Middle.......:)
 
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I know this is a football site but I played against Post 50 in the 1980 American Legion playoffs. You may remember Paul Williams and Dyke Anstead plus a few guys from McColl SC, including Mike Currie.

We also played against Scotland in the 1982 high school playoffs. You may remember Mitch Wells and Shannon Sellers.
Yeah. I graduated with Paul in 81. Dyke graduated in 79 and he played on the 77 State Championship team . I also remember Mitch and Shannon.
 

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By the way I will say I am a Fayetteville native and my allegiance is to Fayetteville. I do own a house in Wilmington off Middle Sound thus my old user name. I pull for Hoggard as far as Wilmington is concerned. I remember when Hoggard played in the Fayetteville conference in the day. They were always good and very physical ba

ck in the day

Hoggard was about as big as Pine Forest was. They were definitely a physical team.
 

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I think that the NCHSAA is doing all the moving to keep the 8 team championship , so they want have to add a new classifacation like 5 A cause some schools have over 3,000 students.

The 5A class is coming regardless, maybe not now but it's coming. It's called population growth and unless we adopt China's law of limiting how many kids you can have it is only a matter of time.
 

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The 5A class is coming regardless, maybe not now but it's coming. It's called population growth and unless we adopt China's law of limiting how many kids you can have it is only a matter of time.

China ended that policy not too long ago.
 

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The 5A class is coming regardless, maybe not now but it's coming. It's called population growth and unless we adopt China's law of limiting how many kids you can have it is only a matter of time.

If they go to five classifications you will see ten football titles.
 

btango

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Five classifications, maybe. Ten football titles, I hope not!!!

Have heard rumblings of nine with a "non traditional" playoff class. Few years ago some complaints from 1A schools that subdividing did not help the very smallest schools and thought three champions in 1A should be reviewed.