And yet another reason people should not keep snakes...
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It absolutely kills me. They said they woke up to find the snake was not in his enclosure and ran to their toddlers room where they found the snake wrapped around the toddler which was dead.
This should be a criminal offense of child endangerment. The parents should be locked up. The parents have essentially taken the life of a child
This should be a criminal offense of child endangerment. The parents should be locked up. The parents have essentially taken the life of a child
if they think the dog or cat won't take kindly to a new child. Yet, these people don't think that a snake in the house with a baby MIGHT not be the best idea.
I've got no problem with people that want to have pet snakes. I don't want one, but that's your deal if you want to have one in the house. However, if you are bringing a baby into that house, you might want to consider selling your snake or at least giving it to a friend or relative.
I've got no problem with people that want to have pet snakes. I don't want one, but that's your deal if you want to have one in the house. However, if you are bringing a baby into that house, you might want to consider selling your snake or at least giving it to a friend or relative.
I have had Boa Constrictors, Corn Snakes, King Snakes, And I now have a Ball Python. Other than the Boa Constrictor the max length of these other snakes is about 6 ft. They are not big enough to hurt any human.
Just stay away from the snakes that can get large like Boas and Burmese Pythons and obviously anything poisonous.
Just stay away from the snakes that can get large like Boas and Burmese Pythons and obviously anything poisonous.
Let's count the ways children die shall we, TV's fall on them, cars back over them, gun accidents, falling down stairs, pools, venetian blind cords, electric shock, tripping and banging their head, falling off bikes, running in the road, shall I go on??? One snake kills a kid and all of a sudden the parents are monsters who should go to the electric chair for having a snake. Give me a fugging break. ACCIDENTS happen every day. It's worse enough that the child died, but people like you just make it worse. Should people just live in a bubble these days so that an accident will never happen?? Oh yeah, they can't even do that because plastic will give the kids cancer and you'll want the death chair for the parents for being such wreck-less meth head parents.
It doesn't take a huge snake to kill a 2 year old. Like I said, I have no problem with people owning snakes. It's not for me, but if you like them as pets, that's no big deal. I do think it's stupid to not get rid of your snake though if you're bringing a baby into the house.
dogs, contact with other human beings with viruses, tvs, heavy book cases, knives, stoves, venetian blinds, slippery floors, corners, desks, air, blankets, belts, plastic bags, tree limbs, baseballs, bats, etc etc (yes all things that have been involved in accidental deaths). Americans are becoming such pussies these days.
That's nothing.
#1 -- don't get a big enough snake to kill a child.
Ball python..... only python worth owning.
Rocks and Burs gets wayyyyyyyyy to big to keep inside.
#1 -- don't get a big enough snake to kill a child.
Ball python..... only python worth owning.
Rocks and Burs gets wayyyyyyyyy to big to keep inside.
leave loaded guns out, bare electrical wires, and knives on the floor when they have a young child that doesn't know any better in the house? The issue isn't as black and white as you think it is. There could've been a lot more done to prevent this. If you have an animal in the house that could potentially harm a sleeping child, you should at the very least keep the child and the pet locked up in separate rooms at night.
if you have a dog that doesn't take well to the child, you get rid of him no questions asked. My wife's parents had to get rid of their dog when she was born because the dog would nip at her and would basically treat her like it needed to establish dominance. That's very dangerous for an infant.
As to your point on stairs, you put up gates when they start walking. You don't let them have hard candy until they reach a certain age where they can handle it. You can tether bookcases to the wall, as I've done in my house at least with the ones that are unstable enough to topple. You can put child safety locks on your cabinets, especially the ones with the cleaning supplies. You can shorten the strings on your blinds so that they are out of reach. You can remove potentially dangerous furniture. It's called child proofing. Yes, there are certain things that cause accidental deaths or injuries that you can't really prevent, but there are certain things that you can do that are just common sense.
If you have a snake that's big enough to strangle a 2 year old to death, and you have a baby, then you should get rid of your snake, or at least find some separate place away from the house to keep it. Give it to a friend or family member if you have one that's willing to take it and keep it as their own.
And honestly, in the first couple months of a baby's life, it's wise to limit contact in public places as well, because they haven't fully developed their immunities yet. Sure, you can take a lot of risks with your child. You can take a 1 month old to a baseball game or football game, but I wouldn't advise it. Aside from the lack of immunities they have at that age, the heat can be dangerous. If it makes me a ***** that I want to do everything in my power to keep my child safe, then call me a *****. I love my daughter more than myself, so I'm willing to sacrifice things on occasion for her benefit.
As to your point on stairs, you put up gates when they start walking. You don't let them have hard candy until they reach a certain age where they can handle it. You can tether bookcases to the wall, as I've done in my house at least with the ones that are unstable enough to topple. You can put child safety locks on your cabinets, especially the ones with the cleaning supplies. You can shorten the strings on your blinds so that they are out of reach. You can remove potentially dangerous furniture. It's called child proofing. Yes, there are certain things that cause accidental deaths or injuries that you can't really prevent, but there are certain things that you can do that are just common sense.
If you have a snake that's big enough to strangle a 2 year old to death, and you have a baby, then you should get rid of your snake, or at least find some separate place away from the house to keep it. Give it to a friend or family member if you have one that's willing to take it and keep it as their own.
And honestly, in the first couple months of a baby's life, it's wise to limit contact in public places as well, because they haven't fully developed their immunities yet. Sure, you can take a lot of risks with your child. You can take a 1 month old to a baseball game or football game, but I wouldn't advise it. Aside from the lack of immunities they have at that age, the heat can be dangerous. If it makes me a ***** that I want to do everything in my power to keep my child safe, then call me a *****. I love my daughter more than myself, so I'm willing to sacrifice things on occasion for her benefit.
According to that quote above it sounds like the snake WAS in another room inside an enclosure. They had to run from one room to another to get to the toddlers room. So, it sounds like the snake got out of an enclosure, traveled from one room to another, climbed inside the toddlers bed or crib and strangled the kid. It doesn't sound like the parents left the snake in the kids bed. It sounds like a tragic accident, but no more then that. I don't think the parents need any more punishment then what they are already going through.
Stairs - if you have a wooden stair case and a 1 year old just learning to walk, and you don't have a gate or something precluding access to the stairs, yes, you are a moron.
Hard Candy - If you give your 18 month old hard candy that he can't chew and would be a choking hazard, you are a moron.
Cars - if you don't put your kids in a car seat, don't look out for kids while backing out of your driveway, you are a moron.
Dogs - Certain dogs are fine, but if you own a pit bull and have a two year old, don't ***** to me when your dog "accidently" mauls him or her, moron.
Human beings with Viruses - If you take your newborn to a hospital or around sick people you are a moron.
TV's - if you have a TV in a position that can easily cause it to fall unto a young child, and it happens, yes you are a moron.
Heavy Book Cases - If you aren't sure that your book case is secure and that your two year old tries to pull himself up on it, and it falls on top of him killing him, you are a moron.
Knives - Probably not a good idea to let your child play with knives, unless you are a moron.
Stoves - See above.
Venetian blinds - May be a little overboard, but ensuring your child's safety may be worth it.
Slippery floors, corners, desks air, blankets, belts - I think you are ok with having those.
Plastic bags - why would you have plastic bags laying around your house, unless you are a moron.
As for your comments about American's being pussies, is it manly to put your child at risk? Am I a ***** for putting my 18 month old in a car seat? Does a real man let his two year old do whatever they want in a car? To me, a real man puts his family's safety first, and having a Rule <17> python in your house does not make you a real man. Ask this "real man" how tough he feels while he is burying his two year old. </p>
There is absolutely no way you have kids. Its just not possible. For you to read this story and the replies, and for you to have a thought that people that think it is retarded to have a python in the house with a baby, are somehow pussies, is just ridiculous.
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Hard Candy - If you give your 18 month old hard candy that he can't chew and would be a choking hazard, you are a moron.
Cars - if you don't put your kids in a car seat, don't look out for kids while backing out of your driveway, you are a moron.
Dogs - Certain dogs are fine, but if you own a pit bull and have a two year old, don't ***** to me when your dog "accidently" mauls him or her, moron.
Human beings with Viruses - If you take your newborn to a hospital or around sick people you are a moron.
TV's - if you have a TV in a position that can easily cause it to fall unto a young child, and it happens, yes you are a moron.
Heavy Book Cases - If you aren't sure that your book case is secure and that your two year old tries to pull himself up on it, and it falls on top of him killing him, you are a moron.
Knives - Probably not a good idea to let your child play with knives, unless you are a moron.
Stoves - See above.
Venetian blinds - May be a little overboard, but ensuring your child's safety may be worth it.
Slippery floors, corners, desks air, blankets, belts - I think you are ok with having those.
Plastic bags - why would you have plastic bags laying around your house, unless you are a moron.
As for your comments about American's being pussies, is it manly to put your child at risk? Am I a ***** for putting my 18 month old in a car seat? Does a real man let his two year old do whatever they want in a car? To me, a real man puts his family's safety first, and having a Rule <17> python in your house does not make you a real man. Ask this "real man" how tough he feels while he is burying his two year old. </p>
There is absolutely no way you have kids. Its just not possible. For you to read this story and the replies, and for you to have a thought that people that think it is retarded to have a python in the house with a baby, are somehow pussies, is just ridiculous.
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The playgrounds, neighborhoods and communities used to be filled with the sound of children playing and having fun. Now all the children are locked inside their houses playing Xbox safe and sound with their antibacterial hand sanitizer and mommy and daddy close at hand to wipe away the staph every ten minutes. It's pretty sad to see the neighborhood streets empty. It's a little too much. Children have to be allowed to experience life. At what point do you let them go?
If my child had so little of a thing as a cat allergy we would not have cats. If my dog was ever agressive to any person he would be gone. I'm not saying pets should be killed. They should be given to someone who will take care of it properly. As long as the pet is loved, it makes no difference where. Keep children safe. they're defenseless
I mean, what are the chances of a snake moving? Im assuming slim to none. I mean everyone knows that snakes are immobile animals.
By the way the term enclosure is not the proper word here, the proper word is open container. The snake was in an open container. You know how I know it was open? BECAUSE THE SNAKE GOT OUT!!!
They are freaking idiots. Allowing a deadly animal to roam free in the house is negligent. A death resulted from their clear negligence, and they should be prosecuted and hopefully people will take better precautions while housing predators and babies in the same home.
By the way the term enclosure is not the proper word here, the proper word is open container. The snake was in an open container. You know how I know it was open? BECAUSE THE SNAKE GOT OUT!!!
They are freaking idiots. Allowing a deadly animal to roam free in the house is negligent. A death resulted from their clear negligence, and they should be prosecuted and hopefully people will take better precautions while housing predators and babies in the same home.
I didn't have a snake in my house growing up, and I don't feel like I missed out.
Im not sure I didn't know someone that didn't play Nintendo or Sega growing up, and some of the best athletes in the world play games inside.
OCD is straightening fringe on the carpet, not making sure your child is safe while he is at home.
Im not sure I didn't know someone that didn't play Nintendo or Sega growing up, and some of the best athletes in the world play games inside.
OCD is straightening fringe on the carpet, not making sure your child is safe while he is at home.
Obviously it was an accident, but it still could have been prevented with better measures. I am hearing that the guy did not have a permit for the snake, which the permit probably asks if you have small children in the house. It's hard to deny there being at least some negligence. Children accidentally hurt themselves with their parent's firearms too, which is an accident, but that doesn't mean the parents shouldn't have been more careful about how they stored the weapons.
Kids slip on slippery floors and bang their heads on the corners of desks all the time. Kids get wrapped up in their own blankets and suffocate. Kids get belts wrapped around their necks and strangle themselves. Air is full of germs, viruses and chemicals that can cause severe injury and sickness to your children. Your list of childproofing sounds like a fugging stepford house. This is a dangerous damn world. You can't child proof the world.
And if you don't think Americans are becoming pussies then you have your head under a rock. Playgrounds used to be fun. We used to have big towering masses of iron jungle gyms and huge two story slides and swings that you could touch the sky with. Go to a park these days and the playgrounds are boring and plastic and pussified. We are raising a bunch of little pussies who can't handle losing or scraping their knees. We have to give everyone a trophy and we don't even keep score in sports anymore. What is the point of sports if there are no winners and losers. Sports are supposed to teach us that sometimes you win and sometimes you lose, not that you never lose and you always win. We are raising pussies.
is to put our toddlers through a variable gauntlet of training and hell that rivals the raising of Spartans in 300, complete with bed of knives to walk over, a pool to sink or swim in, and at the end, a battle royal between a burmese python and a pit bull.
Who'd have thought the topic of snakes killing children would have ever:
1. Brought up "child proofing."
2. Exposed so many snake enthusiasts on this message board.
3. Introduced the "pussification of america" phrase, which is usually reserved for threads involving the roughing the passer call.
In an odd way, I find this completely hilarious.
1. Brought up "child proofing."
2. Exposed so many snake enthusiasts on this message board.
3. Introduced the "pussification of america" phrase, which is usually reserved for threads involving the roughing the passer call.
In an odd way, I find this completely hilarious.
They have no personality, no loyalty, and all they are programmed to do is kill and eat. What does the owner get out of it? I guess it is some kind of masculinity insecurity thing. "Look at me. I own a snake. I am a badass."
It is only natural that we protect our dear sweet children with every fiber of our being from all harm and pain, but the product of that sheltering is a bunch of pussies.
I take my daughter to the park at least once a week, if not more. We go to the zoo probably once a month. I take her to baseball, football, and basketball games now often. I let her play freely when we go to these places, within reason. For example, I help her climb things that she can't quite do on her own yet. However, I didn't take her to public places very often in her first couple months of life, especially when it was really hot outside. That's just being responsible.
And I didn't just let her roam free in my house with sockets uncovered, blind cords dangling in her reach, cabinets not child proofed, etc. until she was old enough to understand what to avoid on her own. I also put up a lot of tables and other small pieces of furniture that she could hurt herself on until she was old enough to walk stably on her own, and I kept her away from the fireplace until she could walk stably.
Do you have kids of your own? I'm just curious, because you don't sound like you do.
It's one thing to be a germaphobe. It's another to use common sense to try to protect your child from basic things that can easily hurt them.
And I didn't just let her roam free in my house with sockets uncovered, blind cords dangling in her reach, cabinets not child proofed, etc. until she was old enough to understand what to avoid on her own. I also put up a lot of tables and other small pieces of furniture that she could hurt herself on until she was old enough to walk stably on her own, and I kept her away from the fireplace until she could walk stably.
Do you have kids of your own? I'm just curious, because you don't sound like you do.
It's one thing to be a germaphobe. It's another to use common sense to try to protect your child from basic things that can easily hurt them.
then a young badass living your life to the fullest. What made the greatest generation the greatest is that they just said, "17 it, we're gonna kick some *** no matter what happens to us, we don't want to be old pussies." They got to be old pussies because they were badasses, not a bunch of whiney debt incurring pussies.
Protecting your child from dangers does not make your child a *****. It just doesn't. In your warped mind it may, but that is because you have no idea what you are talking about.
Not letting a two year old play with a snake or swing from a 20 foot pole does not make him a *****. Allowing your kid to fall out of truck and break his arm does not guarantee that he will be tough, all it guarantees is a broken arm. It is fine to push competition, but when my kid plays football, guess what Im going to let him wear a helmet and pads. Of course I could let him play with no pads, and prove to everyone what a real man my son is, and not some ***** that needs his head protected with some girly helmet and facemask.
I guess you wouldn't let your son wear a batting helmet when playing baseball, no reason for that ****, just more pussification of America. Baseball players 80 years ago didn't wear batting helmets, who cares that it was just idiotic, they were "real men". Because real men have concussions, and lose their vision. Not like today's pussies that play baseball.
By the way, I actually go to parks with kids, I would guarantee more than you do, and I have never been to one on nice a day that wasn't packed with kids. Also swing sets are as tall as ever, and actually the play grounds are way cooler than when I was a child.</p>
Not letting a two year old play with a snake or swing from a 20 foot pole does not make him a *****. Allowing your kid to fall out of truck and break his arm does not guarantee that he will be tough, all it guarantees is a broken arm. It is fine to push competition, but when my kid plays football, guess what Im going to let him wear a helmet and pads. Of course I could let him play with no pads, and prove to everyone what a real man my son is, and not some ***** that needs his head protected with some girly helmet and facemask.
I guess you wouldn't let your son wear a batting helmet when playing baseball, no reason for that ****, just more pussification of America. Baseball players 80 years ago didn't wear batting helmets, who cares that it was just idiotic, they were "real men". Because real men have concussions, and lose their vision. Not like today's pussies that play baseball.
By the way, I actually go to parks with kids, I would guarantee more than you do, and I have never been to one on nice a day that wasn't packed with kids. Also swing sets are as tall as ever, and actually the play grounds are way cooler than when I was a child.</p>
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