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Andy Janovoch interview on 1620
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"What is a 5 by 5?... I've never heard of it referred to as that." SERIOUSLY???? Eek
Great interview that reassured many of what happened during the season.
Great interview that reassured many of what happened during the season.
I think that the "buy in" issue was alluded to by a few people and was confirmed by Andy to be a huge issue. Seems like the coaches let the players have some rope and we're allowed to police themselves and it didn't work, so they had to crank down on it.
When Boyd Epley came out and said what he said it caused some of to step back and realize there may have been an issue in S&C. Andy definitely confirmed that. No Olympic lifts? Are you freaking kidding me? My son is being recruited for football and every strength coach has talked about the same thing. Using Olympic lifts to build explosiveness and to build the core. All I can say is wow to his interview. Well done Andy.
When Boyd Epley came out and said what he said it caused some of to step back and realize there may have been an issue in S&C. Andy definitely confirmed that. No Olympic lifts? Are you freaking kidding me? My son is being recruited for football and every strength coach has talked about the same thing. Using Olympic lifts to build explosiveness and to build the core. All I can say is wow to his interview. Well done Andy.
This floored me and I think you're right with how the coaches handled. I bet they would handle it much differently given another opportunity. Also, I think the interview puts to bed the whole 'Bo brainwashed the players' kick that people were trying to use as an excuse.
Not so much "brainwashing", but some players were stuck in the way Bo handled them. Bo babysat these kids 24/7 and some didn't know how to handle it once given that freedom. Riley has more of an old school approach where he tries to give those kids the ability to learn for themselves and some couldn't handle it and Riley figured tat out and tightened up on them. When I talked about buy in being a huge issue earlier this season and how if players weren't bought in, it doesn't matter what plays are called they won't work. I was told it was nonsense by some here, but it wasn't. Also, I do know for a fact there was contact by the prior staff during the season. This contact did not help with the buy in at all. It just conflicted some of the guys more than ever. I understand these prior coaches caring about their former players. But they were doing these young men more harm than good.
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Its obvious to anyone with basic cognative thinking skills, not the mouth-breathers that think Siphole "reports" the truth.
nonsense! Had we just alternated between fullback trap, I formation iso, and option to the short side of the field all season this team would have easily been 10-2, 11-1. Pass plays are the work of the devil.<sarcasm>
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Jano seems to be a really mature kind of young adult guy. Would like an entire team of Janos. Hope he gets a legit shot at playing for money. Can see why Riley likes the kid.
He's a true throw-back. The way the NFL has moved away from the FB position will make it tough for him. Best of luck.
The stuff about lifting is always so interesting...I read that Stanford stopped using the bench press a few years back...not sure if that is still the case
For those people who thought going to the bowl game was a mistake, I think hindsight showed us otherwise. We saw a team playing as one and hopefully they will carry the same attitude into 2016.
For Tulsa to weigh in on this topic, that would require him to move his goal posts, which he has made clear shouldn't be done.
it appears the transition from a culture of "us vs them" to just "us" was a more difficult transition than some anticipated
They are busy putting the final edits on the drafts of their posts so things are phrased just right and they can hit send on letter of intent day crapping on our recruiting class
I hope he gets a shot in the pros. If nothing else, a special teams stud.
I assumed getting rid of "us vs them" would take years, not weeks or months. That was the core "value" on which the program stood on for the last 7 years.
Given the disaster of a season, I'm surprised "buy in" happened at all, since it sounds like it wasn't there in the beginning (guys don't usually "buy in" more during a losing season). I'm guessing our coaches won some guys over with how they they treated them and handled the losses, which I'm certain was quite different.
The most concerning thing was that (some/many/not sure how many) players only showed up on time to workouts when threatened with punishment. There are just so many things wrong with that, and that is very telling. Do you think Ohio State or Alabama has to force guys to show up on time to work outs?
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This was a huge issue with the prior staff. The players had zero repercussions to deal with if they skipped or showed up late to something like a weight session.
I guess you hear what you want to here. And maybe I misinterpret some of the posts in this thread. This is what I heard, Andy Janovich in HIS OWN WORDS starting at around 6:30 into the interview.
There was no discipline being brought by the coaches. Players were slacking off (not blowing it off). Coaches started to institute some discipline, by MID-SEASON it was corrected.
As far as everyone being on the same page: "...it wasn't that great, errr terrible, we had a lot of great captains on the team that could talk with guys, SO IT WASN'T TERRIBLE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT" (paraphrased as I can't type quick enough).
Now, because I'm not talking with anybody in person, I believe there was a transition. Mindsets had to be overcome for some. New expectations had to be set. But when I listen to Janovich's interview, it doesn't explain a 5-7 season. Did it keep us from winning 10+ games, it could've.
So, what's the deal. Do you want every Husker fan to claim Mike Riley is THEE greatest coach to ever walk the earth, and our players are a toxic goo that are devoid of talent? That is exactly the way the picture is being painted on this board, has been painted all season long, and appears to be the popular opinion.
There was no discipline being brought by the coaches. Players were slacking off (not blowing it off). Coaches started to institute some discipline, by MID-SEASON it was corrected.
As far as everyone being on the same page: "...it wasn't that great, errr terrible, we had a lot of great captains on the team that could talk with guys, SO IT WASN'T TERRIBLE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT" (paraphrased as I can't type quick enough).
Now, because I'm not talking with anybody in person, I believe there was a transition. Mindsets had to be overcome for some. New expectations had to be set. But when I listen to Janovich's interview, it doesn't explain a 5-7 season. Did it keep us from winning 10+ games, it could've.
So, what's the deal. Do you want every Husker fan to claim Mike Riley is THEE greatest coach to ever walk the earth, and our players are a toxic goo that are devoid of talent? That is exactly the way the picture is being painted on this board, has been painted all season long, and appears to be the popular opinion.
Yep it is acceptable to blame players and to say they lack talent but it is being a bad fan to think the coaches are the ones responsible. You are blamed for hurting recruiting when you critic the coaches yet these same people think recruits will love the way many fans turn on the players themselves.
All this buy in talk is smoke - yes I am sure there were some issues, this would be normal. The lack of buy in however did not make Langsdorf call over 50 passing plays with a backup QB making his first start against the worst rush defense in the confer.
The record last season came from trying to force these players to be something they were not - and this goes for both sides of the ball
Solid response...also...if there was such a lack of buy in...why weren't they getting blown out?
I thought he was saying the opposite. That with the prior staff there were repercussions, but with this staff there wasn't any. That was the reason they were slacking off with the current staff...they could get away with it. Perhaps I heard wrong.
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You are wrong. The staff had to put up with players slacking and thinking it is ok to skip lifting that has happened for the last few years. They got put in a position of a percentage of coddled kids thinking it is ok to coast. If you think they could come in and start laying down the law with the fragile egos on a super-thin team because of lazy-*** roster management, that's your problem. The real world works differently.
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There were also some coaching issues. NOBODY is denying that. Nobody is making stupid claims like "they need a few years to adjust to how this new conference plays football". That is something that was claimed by Mark and his bloner followers. There were alot of factors. It will linger longer than it should as long as we have mouth-breathers forgiving the "victim" mindset of a few players.
I have never seen any statement up here that comes close to
1) Riley is the greatest coach to walk the earth or that
2) Our players are toxic goo and devoid of talent
Where are these types of claims?
Observing things like the fact that we are thin on the DL with players declaring is not stating that we are devoid of talent. It's stating that we have little depth and experience returning.
Observation that Riley and company have executed a more organized approach to recruiting this year are balanced out up here by people rightly pointing out that the proof will be in the pudding on signing day. That's not staking a claim that he's the greatest coach ever.
It's my challenge to anybody who wants to help me change my way of thinking. I would guess if anybody responds, there'll be some name-calling, and maybe a few who just want to argue wording.
The portion of the post you quoted, is me being extreme in saying "THEE greatest coach to walk the. earth". I think Riley is an average at best coach, surrounded by average at best assistants. There are a couple gems on the coaching staff. They have a defined process for recruiting, but they can't deliver results.
As far as the "players are toxic goo that are devoid of talent", have you been reading the posts on this forum for the last 6 months or so? And I'm not trying to be mean here, but this has come up A LOT. This thread is just another rehash of the "toxic goo" part. Does it explain a 5-win season, imo "NO".
We won 5 games this year, 6 counting the bowl (and I'm happy we won). It's on the players and coaches. This was transition year, did anybody think it was gonna be super great, did anybody think is was gonna be 5 wins ugly?
Thanks so much for posting this.
IMO Andy confirms exactly what I thought,,,, that the coaches inherited an undisciplined, poorly managed group of players with fragile egos and misguided loyalties. It's been pointed out by Boyd and now players that adequate strength and conditioning was non existent.
His comments about the running game are telling. "20 MA's when we are supposed to have 2!" The good news is despite a rough season we saw improvment. He believes the bowl win was a big step in the right direction and that the buy in is strong and building steadily.
His remarks make me very optimistic.
IMO Andy confirms exactly what I thought,,,, that the coaches inherited an undisciplined, poorly managed group of players with fragile egos and misguided loyalties. It's been pointed out by Boyd and now players that adequate strength and conditioning was non existent.
His comments about the running game are telling. "20 MA's when we are supposed to have 2!" The good news is despite a rough season we saw improvment. He believes the bowl win was a big step in the right direction and that the buy in is strong and building steadily.
His remarks make me very optimistic.