Where the hell are these threads coming from?
Any non gun owners thinking about buying one?
- Thread starter Glenn's Take
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This is what I made my decisions on when it comes to firearms. And I repeat this because gun control dips are so full of misinformation.
CDC - up to 3 million lives saved from violent crime by civilian with a weapon.
It’s a way bigger issue than most realize, and gun accidents aren’t a drop in the bucket compared.
Hope it helps with your decision. Guns aren’t scary, people just make’m scary.
I'm not going to air all the reasons we are still deciding, some of those are personal, suffice it to say though, in many scenarios in life things are not so cut and dry.
The CDC doesn’t pick sides. You are far and away more likely to be violently attacked by a violent criminal than an accident occurring. But most non gun people only look to accidents mainly because of mass miscommunication designed to scare people.
Just thought I’d share that because most
People don’t realize the dangers of not owning a weapon.
Actually, I like your thinking. I am not against people having guns. But, to say that a 5 year old is trained and able to make good decisions is unbelievably stupid, to be honest.
Do you know how many times I have heard it said, "I can't believe my child did that? He knew better!" Children and adults made bad decisions every day and when they did, I saw the results.
Someone once asked me if I ever doubted the existence of God, I replied, "Yes, every time I picked up a dead child." That is something I will never miss and don't watch the news because I don't want to see it again.
Not what I said. And you’re a rarity if you’re a cop. Most I’ve ever known are extremely pro civilian gun becuase they know the risk of not owning one.
I said my 5 year old is trained to know the dangers of a firearm. He can unfold and take down an AR, field clean it, and throw it together. It helps them understand as they grow. He’s a not a trained expert and he’s not allowed near a gun outside of my presence. He’s only up to this point fired a .22 takedown by himself with me directly with him.
Glenn
was trying to figure out some new targets. Determining who is armed and who isn't. He will avoid the armed posters.Ah the good ole don't-post-your-vacation-plans-on-facebook-lest-ye-be-burgled method. Good thinking Glenn, I hope your bloodlust is thoroughly quenched.Glenn
Hard to win a gun fight without a gun. Home intruders could care less.
Glenn
You try to bring up something serious and...
I love you guys though. Keeping it fun.
It’s terrible just like when a child is thrown from a car and dies. Would you also suggest not putting your child in a car? Or teach him to put his seatbelt on?
we only have this train of thought with a firearm. If you think I’m stupid for teaching children the proper way to handle and care for weapons, then I don’t know what to tell you. I’ve never had a cop offer me anything but praise for how I handle it. You’re rare.
Glenn
Some very subtle truth in this post.
Any gun owners thinking about buying another one? :raised_hands:
I don't know of a day in my life there was not a rifle, shotgun or firearm in my house. I was taught guns are found on battleships and tanks. So no I do not have a 90 or 105mm in my garage. But I have over 50 other weapons that shoot bullets.
AR-15's are selling for $299 at the local gun shop. Maybe I will pick up a couple of these.
AR-15's are selling for $299 at the local gun shop. Maybe I will pick up a couple of these.
I own 26 guns and enjoy hunting and shooting sports of all kinds. Born in 52 and owned my first shotgun at age 7. Times were different then. We didn't have to lock our windows and doors out of fear. Wild game was and is my favorite meat to put on my table.
Having said that, folks need to let your conscience be your guide about gun ownership. You can be safe with guns with the proper training.
He sounds reasonable to me . I have two guns. If I didn't I wouldn't feel girly or less of a man.
I've kind of wanted to go through the process.. training, certifying, purchasing.. but it's just too much of a hassle in NY.
Not arguing. I have guns. But the CDC published an article by Gary Kleck, that gave the information you cited. After further study Kleck had to withdraw his study because of inaccuracies. Not saying that guns have not been used to defend, just that there is no evidence of the high numbers that he used. You posted his original, inaccurate, numbers.
I think Morgousky's larger point that defensive gun use has been one that has lacked attention has some merit, but I've looked into the CDC study and likewise found that the survey methods were not accurate. It's a topic that probably could use more research and accurate data.
I'm not a big "gun guy" but I have always owned a 38 that I keep loaded and readily available in case of intruders and a 22 rifle to shoot varmints with. When children come to the house I make sure they are secure an inaccessible. Beyond that I'm not doing anything else do to the coronoavirus. If it comes to the point were we have widespread roving bands of thugs breaking into homes at gunpoint, I'm not sure that's a world I want to live in anyway.
I'm 35 and never been in a situation where I felt unsafe because I didn't have a gun on me.
I am teaching my grandson how to tie his shoes right now. He is four. When he becomes proficient in shoe tying , he will become a member of the Well Regulated Militia of tied footwear people.
By the looks of it, toilet paper must be the prefered self defense method.
Key word. Proper training and safety. We had training in public schools on how to handle a rifle. My grandfather gave me a .22 bolt action rifle when I was 8 years old and I was taught safety first. (I still have it and it is my most prized weapon) He taught me how to shoot it and shoot it safely. I took it to school for show and tell. We passed it around the class room. Nobody thought a thing about it. This is not a picture of me or my classmates but it is exactly how it was in our schools. In the 50's
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BTW for the record while I support the rights of citizens to own guns, I also support common sense gun control legislation.
Suggest that you don’t try walking around Winchester Road area in Lexington at night. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
I just got back from a gun run to Costco.
Why? So you can get the data to help reflect the way you want to feel about it? Nevermind. That's definitely it.
So . . . you would opt out of such a world? If so how? Oh please, do tell. So enlightening, all of your wisdom is . . always. Obviously you describe doing nothing about such an awful condition.
That’s why the report was wide in scope. 500K - 3 million is an estimate because it’s hard to gauge. We know for a fact that guns save far more lives than they take. Period. But the media will not touch it. Wonder why.
I think the political argument is not about gun rights but about gun responsibility. While you seem to be very responsible in your personal life in regard to guns, many, many are not. I think most citizens are simply wanting sensible gun laws.