Anybody catch Saban's last comment in the interview w/Folwer, Pollack, & Herbie?

[Bobby Ricigliano]

Anybody catch Saban's last comment in the interview w/Folwer, Pollack, & Herbie?

Thought this was pretty funny. He was talking about how they had to get better (paraphrasing):

"Look, to win our league, Georgia's 5 yards from getting here. Is that right? So, we need to get a lot better...(pause, wait for it)...in our league."

 

[Todd4State]

Well, he's right- you win the SEC, you win the National Championship. It's happened what? Seven years in a row now?

College football has gotten to the point where it's the SEC, USC, Oregon, Texas, Miami, and Florida State are the only teams that have a shot to win it. Then you have a few teams on the border like Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Michigan, and Ohio State- maybe even someone like Clemson that might be able to make a run, but would have to pull off a near monumental upset to win it all.

ESPN and the national media just have to accept it - whether they like it or not- that the SEC is best out there, and the reason it's better is because we as a league put more into it than the other conferences. It has gotten to the point where a school like an Alabama or a Florida can go up to a state like Ohio or Indiana and get who they want. They probably doesn't happen in the 90's even.

 

[Sutterkane]

LSU won the SEC last year and did not win the national championship

 

[JJs Frustration]

SEC
Notre Dame - Kelly can recruit and coach, their schedule is pretty easy if they can get by the Okla type and Stanford games
Ohio State - Meyer is by himself as far as coaching and recruiting up there
Oregon - Kelly can coach and recruit, see how NCAA sanctions play out
Stanford - their coach can flat out coach and they can get good players
Texas - $$$$$, won't contend until they get rid of Mack
Miami - won't ever contend, they were a product of the money system that NCAA killed
Louisville, Clemson - young coaches who can coach and recruit, will always need a huge stroke of luck to win it
Oklahoma, FSU, USC, Nebraska, Michigan - their current head coaches can't win a title in today's landscape, too soft

It's the SEC and everybody else obviously. Although I believe it will be easier for a team to break thru from outside the conference to win a title because they made the SEC now have to win 2 games in 2 weeks to do it. Much easier for a slip up or one of the teams below my list not in the SEC to catch a break in a game and pull out an upset. SEC slips up in the bowl game and all of a sudden you have 2 non SEC teams getting to play for the title.

 

[thatsbaseball]

If we ever have a say four team playoff can you imagine the politicking to keep the participation down to one SEC participant and if there are two SEC teams participating the politicking to make them face each other in the first round

 

[dogfan96]

ND recruits for itself.. no matter who the coach is...

and I don't think Kelly is really anything special as a coach. They got a ton of lucky breaks this year (and some shady officiating) and they made the most of it. They faced an elite team and got curbstomped

 

[Dawgzilla]

Yeah - that's why ND has managed to stay so relevant over the last 25 years

 

[dogfan96]

Their main players are all juniors and seniors..

those guys were recruited when they were pretty average/bad.. Teo was the #1 LB recruit in the country his senior year.. they don't have Bama's talent level but their talent is pretty much always above average no matter who the coach is.

 

[Original48]

If we ever have a say four team playoff can you imagine the politicking to keep the participation down to one SEC participant and if there are two SEC teams participating the politicking to make them face each other in the first round

Omaha certainly created a template for that.

 

[chew1095]

Yep and there is no doubt the NCAA would try to do the same thing with football. I seem to recall an interview with Mike Martin about 15 - 20 years ago during one of FSU's many trips to Omaha, which happen to coincide with about 5 teams from the SEC. Martin basically said it was a honor to have been able to reach the SEC tournament that year. I am probably butchering the recount of these comments, but you get the gist.

 

[patdog]

Read an interesting article last night about how the new playoff is going to shake out. They're specifically saying that if 2 teams from the same conference finish 1-4 or 2-3 they will play each other in the semifinals. Of course with a selection committee ranking the teams, I think we can count on if 2 SEC teams are in the top 4 they will almost certainly be "ranked" 1-4 or 2-3. Also, the first year semifinals are expected to be the Sugar and Rose bowls, with the Cotton Bowl getting the title game. Sugar and Rose will always be played on New Year's Day, except they will be played on New Year's Eve in the 2 years NYD falls on a Sunday. Semifinal games will shift to Dec. 31 in years the Sugar or Rose isn't hosting the semis. Title game will be open for any city to bid on, not just the 6 major bowls. They will try to keep the semis as regional as possible, but they won't put a higher seed in a virtual road game (a #1 Ohio St. wouldn't have to play a #4 LSU in the Sugar Bowl).

 

[Rutherford B. Hayes]

The SEC has been lucky. Because the SEC has so many tough teams the SEC need upsets in the weaker conferences or for an undefeated team to be on probation. Remember if Ohio State hadn't been on probation this year it would have been an Ohio State vs Notre Dame in the championship game last night. Oklahoma State and Oregon were upset late last year for Bama to get to the final game. West Virginia choked late in the season one year.
Bottom line: few SEC teams ever run the table, so the SEC needs for these other conferences produce no more than one undefeated team. Of course the SEC get some breahing room once the playoff finally starts.

 

[LiterallyPolice]

SEC
Notre Dame - Kelly can recruit and coach, their schedule is pretty easy if they can get by the Okla type and Stanford games
Ohio State - Meyer is by himself as far as coaching and recruiting up there
Oregon - Kelly can coach and recruit, see how NCAA sanctions play out
Stanford - their coach can flat out coach and they can get good players
Texas - $$$$$, won't contend until they get rid of Mack
Miami - won't ever contend, they were a product of the money system that NCAA killed
Louisville, Clemson - young coaches who can coach and recruit, will always need a huge stroke of luck to win it
Oklahoma, FSU, USC, Nebraska, Michigan - their current head coaches can't win a title in today's landscape, too soft

It's the SEC and everybody else obviously. Although I believe it will be easier for a team to break thru from outside the conference to win a title because they made the SEC now have to win 2 games in 2 weeks to do it. Much easier for a slip up or one of the teams below my list not in the SEC to catch a break in a game and pull out an upset. SEC slips up in the bowl game and all of a sudden you have 2 non SEC teams getting to play for the title.

To say "SEC" broadly is innaccurate. Let's not kid ourselves here: It's really limited to 6 or 7 teams in the SEC.

 

[Todd4State]

To say "SEC" broadly is innaccurate. Let's not kid ourselves here: It's really limited to 6 or 7 teams in the SEC.

I think if Vanderbilt or Kentucky ever put together a team good enough to beat Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, and Tennessee, and then beat LSU or Bama in the SEC Championship Game, all the while running the table through their schedule- I'd have to like their chances in a NC game.

 

[engie]

The SEC has been lucky. Because the SEC has so many tough teams the SEC need upsets in the weaker conferences or for an undefeated team to be on probation. Remember if Ohio State hadn't been on probation this year it would have been an Ohio State vs Notre Dame in the championship game last night. Oklahoma State and Oregon were upset late last year for Bama to get to the final game. West Virginia choked late in the season one year.

This is simply not true. Alabama would have been in the title game regardless of whether or not Ohio St was eligible. Ohio St didn't have the SOS or the computer rankings to get them into the top 2.

 

[patdog]

Can you imagine the shitstorm that would have created? The 4-team playoff can't get here soon enough.

 

[JJs Frustration]

To say "SEC" broadly is innaccurate. Let's not kid ourselves here: It's really limited to 6 or 7 teams in the SEC.

Uhhhh no ****.