Anybody see this fact from last football season...?

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Drives that gained at least 20 yards, but did NOT result in a touchdown:

1. WVU 76

2. Virginia 65
3. Arizona 64
4. Penn St 61
5. Washington St 58
6. Florida St 57

Those were your "leaders" in that category from the 2014 college football season. Very interesting in a number of ways.
 

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Drives that gained at least 20 yards, but did NOT result in a touchdown:

1. WVU 76

2. Virginia 65
3. Arizona 64
4. Penn St 61
5. Washington St 58
6. Florida St 57

Those were your "leaders" in that category from the 2014 college football season. Very interesting in a number of ways.

I'll add some stats too......

WVU was 8th in the nation in 1st downs per game......yet 38th in offensive scoring.
 

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I think you're putting the cart before the horse on this one. Seems you are insinuating that we were stalling on drives to give lambert a shot at a field goal as an offensive strategy. I highly doubt that.
I believe Woody was implying that--because Lambert was both reliable and prolific--it gave Holgorsen the luxury of knowing he had that FG in his back pocket most of the time.

Having a Groza finalist changes your strategy and play-calling quite a bit compared to many other seasons we've seen when the kicking game was more of an adventure. It'd be irresponsible coaching if Holgorsen didn't get slightly more conservative under those circumstances.
 
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It sounds like a failure to respond in the clutch. Gaining 20 yards from the 20 to the 40 is a lot easier than gaining a first down on your opponent's 30 and 20 and 10.

Those statistics all point to an inability to close the deal.

7-6, even in the Big 12, is not an accomplishment.

Blaming the Big East exit is not an accomplishment either.

As Nike says, Just do it! Excuses are for losers.


 
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Woody in Helvetia

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Both analysis of what I was saying were basically wrong. I was saying that 76 stalled drives looks like ineptitude - it was offset with 30 some drives that did get a FG. Which makes that number of drives without TDs not as bad. We did stall out way too many times. But that is a problem in the Air Raid offense. It works great between the 20's but has a hard time making the final 20 yards to the End Zone.
 

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I wont argue that either. It's pretty obvious if you haven't already accepted that gaining those yards between the twenties and racking up big numbers in the yards gained column as a success. For those that realize that scoring touchdowns is the objective and a field goal is a back up plan then it's a little more clear that our offense isn't all it could be. If Dana quit trying to score touchdowns because field goals were fine with him, we have much bigger problems!
 

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It shows that we sucked at putting the ball in the end zone, despite having a dominant red zone weapon.

That needs to improve.
 

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Drives that gained at least 20 yards, but did NOT result in a touchdown:

1. WVU 76

2. Virginia 65
3. Arizona 64
4. Penn St 61
5. Washington St 58
6. Florida St 57

Those were your "leaders" in that category from the 2014 college football season. Very interesting in a number of ways.
It seems to me that we led the nation in several stats last year, both good and bad. Am I wrong about that?
 
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My favorite statistics:

Points WVU scores per game.
Points WVU gives up per game.

Solve that discrepancy and WVU will do better than 7-6.

I can't wait for Georgia Southern, Liberty and Maryland to come into Mountaineer Field. First three games at home! Then the Big 12 gauntlet.
 

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Well, when you can't run the ball consistently when the field shrinks down inside the 20, that's what happens. Our teams under DH have been pretty soft that way. Until they get back to pounding the ball between the tackles, we're not going to succeed very much in this league. We need to not be like the other Big 12 teams. We need to play actual football instead of the flag version.
 

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Having a dominant or even very good O-line would have changed those numbers. Until WVU gets back to having offensive linemen instead of matadors this will not change.