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The Cooterpoot

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I asked you a question and you went off on a rant that never answered the question.
This is your opportunity to shine- tell us how you would do it, don't continue to tell us why you dislike the current system.

Further, don't try to claim I don't understand that people learn in different ways or that some groups may struggle with standardized testing.
17 off with that.

Just because I asked you l what you would do doesn't mean I am blindly defending the current system.
Got caught up in other pissing matches. But you test kids and create the proper avenues that fit the way they think/process. We discard so many kids because we "don't want to fool with them". There's a couple people around I know personally who are on the spectrum etc. They were accused of being "lazy" by educators when they were never lazy a day a day in their lives. They struggled with distractions and social functionality but were extremely intelligent. They were forced to get test answers in ways their minds didn't work when they could give the correct answer doing it their way rather easily. Stop focusing on trying to make kids think the same damn way. Who cares how they got the right answers when they always get them their way? Education as a one size fits all isn't possible without exclusion, confusion, and negative impacts on a lot of kids.
 
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mstateglfr

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Got caught up in other pissing matches. But you test kids and create the proper avenues that fit the way they think/process. We discard so many kids because we "don't want to fool with them". There's a couple people around I know personally who are on the spectrum etc. They were accused of being "lazy" by educators when they were never lazy a day a day in their lives. They struggled with distractions and social functionality but were extremely intelligent. They were forced to get test answers in ways their minds didn't work when they could give the correct answer doing it their way rather easily. Stop focusing on trying to make kids think the same damn way. Who cares how they got the right answers when they always get them their way? Education as a one size fits all isn't possible without exclusion.
I am all for increasing testing options and testing around how someone learns or displays learning, as long as the results can be reliably translated in a standardized way. If not, there is no point in standardized testing at all. And that means there is no meta tracking of progress since the data becomes meaningless.
I do not know of a system that will implement such a concept to the scale needed in the US, especially without increased funding or without taking funding from other areas. If you know of one, I am all ears.
 

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I am all for increasing testing options and testing around how someone learns or displays learning, as long as the results can be reliably translated in a standardized way. If not, there is no point in standardized testing at all. And that means there is no meta tracking of progress since the data becomes meaningless.
I do not know of a system that will implement such a concept to the scale needed in the US, especially without increased funding or without taking funding from other areas. If you know of one, I am all ears.
It’s simple. Leave education up to the local level.
 

mstateglfr

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It’s simple. Leave education up to the local level.
The level of irony in this comment is almost unmatched. Damn, your obliviousness has reached another level.
'Local control' is both used and ignored by individuals and groups as it suits them.
 

mstateglfr

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Local as in state level or as in at the district level? Because if you’re letting districts be in charge that’s opening a can of worms.
Agreed, thats a can of worms. And yet, state level often is hardly 'local control'.

Texas has 31million people, measures 800 miles both wide and long. There is nothing local about state level guidance and policies, given the population and geographic size. Same with California, Florida, New York, etc