Anyone heard anything about the Quarterbacks we are targeting?
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I think so...
Woulard is blowing up late in the process... He's at Clemson right now on an OV. I think we just decided O'Korn was next on our board behind Dobbs. Woulard just isn't a known quantity at this point. Great in Elite11, terrible stats in season, ending with a broken leg -- and he's only been a qb for 2 years... He could end up being the best of the bunch, but he's the biggest gamble IMO...
Woulard is blowing up late in the process... He's at Clemson right now on an OV. I think we just decided O'Korn was next on our board behind Dobbs. Woulard just isn't a known quantity at this point. Great in Elite11, terrible stats in season, ending with a broken leg -- and he's only been a qb for 2 years... He could end up being the best of the bunch, but he's the biggest gamble IMO...
And since we're discussing recruiting, what is the latest on De'Runnya Wilson?
I've watched his clips and the kid is big and looks athletic. Anyone know why he's only listed as a two star prospect? Same with Gray. I don't see him being a two star player either but then again I'm no recruiting expert.
I've watched his clips and the kid is big and looks athletic. Anyone know why he's only listed as a two star prospect? Same with Gray. I don't see him being a two star player either but then again I'm no recruiting expert.
De'Runnya is raw, but he could end up being a great WR. He was supposed to visit Auburn this weekend, but switched it to next weekend (basketball game I think). We want him, but I feel like since he didn't commit to us after his visit, he will probably choose Auburn. Hopefully I'm wrong though.
I don't know much about Gray. Many think De'Runnya is a 3 star with potential, and many think Gray is a high 3/ low 4, but Engie may be able to elaborate more on both.
Scout has slim pickings on the evaluation front. Kids default to 2*s just by getting their name in the database as a senior, basically... They had Chris Jones as a 2* well after he got bumped to a 4* on 24/7...
Trust 24/7 for this info -- where they actually go watch games.
De'Runnya is extremely raw. Think this was his first year to ever play football. He's a basketball guy that is actually also pretty recruited in that sport(I don't think he has the offers of football though). He has a TON of potential -- but he's going to need alot of time with Brewster to develop.
Gray has to make the grades. He does, and he comes in ready to contribute at WR. Barton Simmons(24/7 national guy) watched him live 3-4 times this year and absolutely believes that he's one of the best prospects in all of Tennessee. Said he would be just as recruited as ANYONE in Tn if his grades were better. He's a slot guy with a ton of speed, who can line up outside, gets good separation, and he never, ever lets the first guy tackle him. Barton says he would probably be a mid-4* if not for grades and difficulty of getting him qualified...
sounds like Memphis City Schools hasn't changed much since I last coached there. Most talent in one spot for hundreds of miles, and yet i would dare say 70% of the athletes in that system cannot qualify academically. I still laugh at their old slogan "Memphis City Schools - Every Child, Every Day, College Bound". terrible at it. I hope Gray worked his butt off to qualify. Because he wont get much help from others.
I tend to agree with you. Dobbs has more star power, but O'Korn seems to be a good fit. He also seems a little underrated based on video. If Mullen has Dobbs higher on his list then I'll assume he is the better QB for us, but I won't be mad if we end up with O'Korn.
1-2 point away on his ACT with 2 or 3 more tries before he'd need to be at MSU... so yes, very close. That's why we decided to go ahead and accept the commitment...
Do you have any insight as to why...
we are asking Scott Austin, a very raw big WR, to possibly grayshirt due to the limited spots we have left while we continue to be after De'Runnya Wilson, another very raw big WR? Just seems a little odd. I personally think Jones from Eupora, though not as big as either, will be ready to contribute at the D1 level more quickly than either Austin or Wilson. Sometimes I think we get wrapped around the axle on measurables and don't take enough account of guys that are just good football players.
we are asking Scott Austin, a very raw big WR, to possibly grayshirt due to the limited spots we have left while we continue to be after De'Runnya Wilson, another very raw big WR? Just seems a little odd. I personally think Jones from Eupora, though not as big as either, will be ready to contribute at the D1 level more quickly than either Austin or Wilson. Sometimes I think we get wrapped around the axle on measurables and don't take enough account of guys that are just good football players.
I'm with you on the measureables side -- and don't pretend to know what our staff is thinking on this one...
Why do you think Mullen is recruiting Dobbs so heavily then? Why did he recruit all these other QBs that are pass happy over the years? I mean, if he was as smart as you, he'd know ONLY a runner could succeed in his patented system. Those are Croom type mistakes.
Geez, why hadn't Mullen consulted with you yet? I guess it couldn't possibly be because he knows a passing QB CAN be successful in his offense with a stable running game and OL, like we'll have in 2013.
All you offense haters need to take a chill pill until after next season. If the offense doesn't improve, then I'll join you in the hating. But it will. If you truly are a coach you should know this elementary stuff.
Geez, why hadn't Mullen consulted with you yet? I guess it couldn't possibly be because he knows a passing QB CAN be successful in his offense with a stable running game and OL, like we'll have in 2013.
All you offense haters need to take a chill pill until after next season. If the offense doesn't improve, then I'll join you in the hating. But it will. If you truly are a coach you should know this elementary stuff.
we had a stable OL in 2012- with 4 lineman starting all 13 games and Malone starting 8...no way we make it thru 2013 with so few injuries upfront
Somehow the guy is ranked the #1 receiver in Mississippi. I'm not one to blindly follow everything I hear but he must have done something over his career to garner that title.
Stable, yes. Very very average. That's why we were an average offense. We will be even better on the OL next year and it will contribute to a better offense. It's really this simple. It isn't a Tyler/Dak thing.
And if you're going to reply to me, answer my first question about Dobbs.
And if you're going to reply to me, answer my first question about Dobbs.
It's had FOUR years to improve. What makes you suddenly think it fixes itself with no staff or ideology changes in year 5?
Maybe because he feels that Dobbs can grow into a true dual threat guy -- that simply isn't used in a dual threat offense in highschool. Dobbs' running measureables are just as good as O'Korn and Woulard. He is NOT Tyler Russell confined to the pocket. Kid is almost 0.2sec faster in the 40 than Chris Relf was when he signed -- at 15 pounds lighter coming out of highschool. IMO Dobbs would be 210 before he made it through the first summer with Balis -- much like Relf went from 205 to 225 almost immediately when he got to State -- before finishing his career at 245.
How many times do I have to post these for people to understand that Dobbs has plenty of potential to run as well as throw?
I dont know how many times you have to be told. The OL was pretty good this year and stayed healthy. Their pass pro was really good. Our scheme hampers our running game much more than the OL.
And Dobbs is an Alex Smith type- he is a pocket guy that can run some. He is much more mobile than Russell
I agree with you, he had to have done something right to be ranked as the top wideout in the state. However, he must not be as developed as Christy or Hammond or else we would not be asking him to grey shirt. Just gotta trust that our staff knows what they are doing with this one, still hope the kid ends up on campus.
And every one of them is going to be back next year. Which means our offense is going to be better. You definitely embellish how good our OL was this year.....like I said, they were average.
Dobbs is listed as a drop-back QB. Most QBs can run a little bit. Point is, Mullen is trying to find the best QBs he can. This other crap is a myth.....EVERYBODY would love to have a dual threat QB, problem is, the passing is what has to come first.
Dobbs is listed as a drop-back QB. Most QBs can run a little bit. Point is, Mullen is trying to find the best QBs he can. This other crap is a myth.....EVERYBODY would love to have a dual threat QB, problem is, the passing is what has to come first.
No. He's listed as a pro-style qb because he plays in a pro-style offense. Has nothing to do with his ability to run.
Otherwise, we are delving into the "17 needs---take best available" tangent that goat loves to go with when he hasn't made himself look ridiculous in awhile...