That at the end, when trying to bridge the gap and showing all the young white kids playing tag football with the one black kid in the grove....the only one not dressed in ole miss garb was the black kid. He was wearing maroon and white.....I actually laughed when I saw that.
Anyone notice on 30 for 30
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It was awesome that the parting clip was the gal playing Dixie....hell no..they ain't fergettin'
Also, no mention at all of the 3 National Championship
banners from that time period... what the hell ESPN??? Get your facts straight!
banners from that time period... what the hell ESPN??? Get your facts straight!
Because it isn't funny?
And you are too blinded by OM hatred to realize that its makes us all look bad. Your school didn't have its first black student until several years after OM. Do you not realize that had James Meredith decided to go to MSU instead of OM then State would have been were all the riots, etc would have occurred? As someone who has lived in MS all my life, but wasn't even born when any of that **** when down, not only do i not think it is funny, i don't really like hearing about it all the time.
And you are too blinded by OM hatred to realize that its makes us all look bad. Your school didn't have its first black student until several years after OM. Do you not realize that had James Meredith decided to go to MSU instead of OM then State would have been were all the riots, etc would have occurred? As someone who has lived in MS all my life, but wasn't even born when any of that **** when down, not only do i not think it is funny, i don't really like hearing about it all the time.
Mississippi State is and never has been a symbol of the "Old South"... Would have never made for a logical battlegrounds to break the spirit of the "Old South" there although I agree that it would have been more difficult to be the first to integrate in the south. They tried to integrate USM first and the kid got wrongfully thrown in jail. Where was the huge story about that? Fact of the matter is, even the "Southerners" are not the symbol of the old south. Ole Miss is.
Do a little reading...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_E._Holmes
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MSU defied Ross Barnett in the SAME SCHOOL YEAR as the Ole Miss Racial Riots.
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I was born in Jackson, graduated from MRA, and lived in Mississippi for 34 years. Mississippi already looks bad because you can't change history. It happened. I understand you being sensitive about it because it took place at your school- but it is what it is.
You can't change what happened, you can only move forward. And your school has been very reluctant to move forward- which also makes you look very bad. Tradition is one thing, but when it's the wrong type of tradition- you have to let it go. Your school's reluctance and fight to keep the traditions of the Old South makes it look bad- not State.
I don't know what's better, your screen name or that story...
Seriously, love the handle, and the story is classic. Douchebag below who hates it, needs to look at it from another view...
Seriously, love the handle, and the story is classic. Douchebag below who hates it, needs to look at it from another view...
Well, as Mississippians, I would have thought we could have agreed on this
It makes us all look bad as Southerners and Mississippians. I hate to let you in on the secret, but most people don't know MSU from OM.
I will say this though. Hanging your hat on the fact that a basketball team defied a Governor and went out of state to play a basketball game is pretty week. I applaud them for doing it, but to say it was altruistic would be a little misguided. They wanted to go play the game. It had little to do with them wanted to breakdown racial barriers. If they were interested in breaking down barriers, they would have placed black players on their team instead of a team full of white guys going to play the black team.
It makes us all look bad as Southerners and Mississippians. I hate to let you in on the secret, but most people don't know MSU from OM.
I will say this though. Hanging your hat on the fact that a basketball team defied a Governor and went out of state to play a basketball game is pretty week. I applaud them for doing it, but to say it was altruistic would be a little misguided. They wanted to go play the game. It had little to do with them wanted to breakdown racial barriers. If they were interested in breaking down barriers, they would have placed black players on their team instead of a team full of white guys going to play the black team.
I don't know if you are so far out of reality or an MSU fan pretending to be TSUN to make them look bad.
Dude, learn to handle the **** that is your history, and quit blaming society or bad luck. Remember you guys didn't even clean up your crap until Tuberville arrived in the 1990s. Confederate flags and yelling racial epithets at the opposing team were a part of every game and especially the egg bowl.
Are you really this dense?
I would say that it was signifcant because they wanted to play against black players and had to sneak out to do it and were possibly going to get arrested to do it. It would have been a LOT easier to just go 25-1 or whatever and just stay home. I would also say it was significant since a lot of Southern universities refused to play African Americans opponents in many cases.
I would say that is a better story than your 1962 "National Championship" football team that got overshadowed by James Merideth.
I would say that it was signifcant because they wanted to play against black players and had to sneak out to do it and were possibly going to get arrested to do it. It would have been a LOT easier to just go 25-1 or whatever and just stay home. I would also say it was significant since a lot of Southern universities refused to play African Americans opponents in many cases.
I would say that is a better story than your 1962 "National Championship" football team that got overshadowed by James Merideth.
Do you really believe that while the entire state was fight to keep blacks out of the universities, that this group of altruistic student athletes wanted to show the world that we could all just get along? They were undefeated and wanted a chance to win the whole thing and again, they should be praised for doing what they did. But spare me on how they fought against the man in an effort to promote racial harmony.
If they were that magnanimous, they would have refused to play at all until black players were on their team. So save the self rightous b.s. Spin how you will, but MSU was not a leader in the integration movement, otherwise you wouldn't have been so far behind OM and others.
If they were that magnanimous, they would have refused to play at all until black players were on their team. So save the self rightous b.s. Spin how you will, but MSU was not a leader in the integration movement, otherwise you wouldn't have been so far behind OM and others.
Mississippi was behind Mississippi State re: student athletes...
1. Frank Dowsing enrolled at MSU in 1969.
2. Mississippi's first African-American student athlete (Coolidge Ball) signed a scholarship to enroll just before the beginning of the fall semester of 1970.
1. Frank Dowsing enrolled at MSU in 1969.
2. Mississippi's first African-American student athlete (Coolidge Ball) signed a scholarship to enroll just before the beginning of the fall semester of 1970.
Did you go to school at MRA because you are a racist? Or, did you go to MRA because you were to much of pansy to play public school football? I'm pretty sure that TSUN was integrated long before your high school was. Any academy boy that looks down on TSUN's past is a hypocrite.
My school's headmaster who later became a commander in chief of the Sons of Confederate Veterans once asked me why I didn't stand up when Dixie was played at my school's pep rally some 30 years ago (yes, I'm an academy boy & the school I attended has as its mascot the Rebels). I told him that I did not stand up for an Ole Miss song.
I went to MRA because my father retired from coaching and Callaway's baseball program was a joke. 6 players off of my team at MRA played college baseball- Callaway was lucky to even field a team
I believe they did it because they wanted to win
And it didn't matter the color of the skin of the opponent. Which is what it really SHOULD be about. Racial harmony is about not caring and seeing others as human. It's not their fault that Barnett didn't want them to play. Ironically, they were not allowed to play for years because of our stupid laws. MSU had several basketball teams as good if not better that didn't even get to play in the NCAA tournament because of Mississippi's racist laws.
Your theory that they should have waited until there were black basketball players is ridiculous. There weren't any black students on campus at that time. What's the point in waiting? If anything playing in that tournament encouraged blacks to go to MSU- regardless of the fact that we were an all white team.
And we were "so far behind" Ole Miss in integration that we had our first AA football player some seven years before Ole Miss, our first AA student came on campus without any fanfare, and not only that we hired the first AA football coach in SEC history. We blow you away as far as racial harmony goes. There's even a video about it.
And it didn't matter the color of the skin of the opponent. Which is what it really SHOULD be about. Racial harmony is about not caring and seeing others as human. It's not their fault that Barnett didn't want them to play. Ironically, they were not allowed to play for years because of our stupid laws. MSU had several basketball teams as good if not better that didn't even get to play in the NCAA tournament because of Mississippi's racist laws.
Your theory that they should have waited until there were black basketball players is ridiculous. There weren't any black students on campus at that time. What's the point in waiting? If anything playing in that tournament encouraged blacks to go to MSU- regardless of the fact that we were an all white team.
And we were "so far behind" Ole Miss in integration that we had our first AA football player some seven years before Ole Miss, our first AA student came on campus without any fanfare, and not only that we hired the first AA football coach in SEC history. We blow you away as far as racial harmony goes. There's even a video about it.
MRA for the genius coach34? Boom....That's going to leave a red mark on the white boy's face right there. It tells you just what he's all about.
the academy white boy lecturing folks on race relations? You sir are a race baiting hustler.
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