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Shmuley

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It would be a mismatch of Biblical proportions. The suggestion that UM is top ten is embarrassingly laughable.

[Yes, lurkers, state sux mountain yak balls]
 

GloryDawg

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They are going to have to step it up a notch or two once their SEC play start. If they don't play any better then they did Sunday, Alabama will beat them by 20 point. Not only that, they will lose to South Carolina and LSU. I think Vandy will play their *** off when they line up with Ole Miss. They better be ready.</p>
 
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Big D said:
They are going to have to step it up a notch or two once their SEC play start. If they don't play any better then they did Sunday, Alabama will beat them by 20 point. Not only that, they will loose to South Carolina and LSU. I think Vandy will play their *** off when they line up with Ole Miss. They better be ready.</p>
i hate this crap. typos are one thing, but it's not that hard to learn the difference between lose & loose. There & their are pretty bad too, but lose & loose are misused so much it's pathetic. Everybody posting should already have or be in the process of getting a college degree. Have some damn pride.

<me stepping off soapbox>
 

mstatefan88

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If they don't come up with that pick 6 at the end of it, I think that game turns out much differently because the Ole Miss offense couldnt do much. It also didnt help that the Memphis offense looked very similar to the offense that we ran for the last 5 years. 2 runs up the middle, a terrible pass play, then a bad punt. I did see one weakness for Ole Miss though and that is that they might rely on Dexter McCluster a little too much. He was involved in almost every play, especially when they were having trouble running the ball. Shay Hodge will get his, but if teams can stop their run, keying on McCluster might make things harder for Ole Miss. Memphis did a good job of that in the first 2 and a half to 3 quarters and that kept them in the game for a while.
 
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the biggest problem in our offense was that Snead was not as accurate as he normally is and we need another receiver to step up. The int on the long pass to Hodge was a forced throw into double coverage. That mistake was there last year as well. Hell, in the Cotton Bowl, he misread a safety and threw into the same coverage but Wallace went and got the ball anyway for a TD. That interception to me was Lil' Favre-esque because if he'd just checked down to Bolden, there was 30 yards worth of green in front of him with no defenders. Snead's biggest problem to me is that he doesn't go away from his primary read often enough and thinks his arm is good enough to make up for covered receivers.

I wouldn't say we looked terrible in the first half either. I'd say we played poorly in the 2nd quarter after dominating the first quarter of play. Also, saying "if they don't come up with that pick 6" is foolish. We did come up with it. It counts. We disguised coverage, caused a decision, and took advantage of it to the tune of six points. If we hadn't blocked the xtra point at Florida last year then we would have likely gone to OT and lost. But we didn't. We made the play. You can't take that away from the overall equation.

As for the Memphis offense, they are not great, but our secondary played a lot better against their WR's than I thought they might. Powe was unblockable and did a reasonable Peria Jerry impression against Memphis's O-line. If he can do that against teams like So. Carolina and Bama, then we'll be fine on defense.
 

Optimus Prime 4

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impressed we sucked and could still win by 31. Snead and 11 others played with swine flu, that had to hurt some as well.
 

patdog

Heisman
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Because except for covering kicks they looked like a hell of a team. Not to mention that VA Tech >>> Memphis.
 

Optimus Prime 4

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but I think VT is a completely average team, and Bama's qb was 5 for 15 at one point was he not? VT's offense is horrendous. We knew Bama would have a good D, but I still think their offense will be worse than last year, until they show me more.

I am less worried about playing them than I was before the game. Maybe I was just too drunk, but their offense did not scare me. And their strength (running) happens to go against our strength (d line). Unless McElroy improves, I think they'll lose 3 games this year.
 

RebelBruiser

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Shmuley said:
It would be a mismatch of Biblical proportions. The suggestion that UM is top ten is embarrassingly laughable.

[Yes, lurkers, state sux mountain yak balls]

You think we'd really beat Penn State that badly?
 

patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
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24,825
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The announcers were talking all night about how their DC just ate up QBs making their first start. But McElroy threw for 200+ yards against them and had a 118 QB rating. And that's against an SEC caliber defense. If he can continue to play like that, they should definitely be in a BCS bowl (unless the no more than 2 teams from 1 conference rule bites them in the ***).
 

8dog

All-American
Feb 23, 2008
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against a pretty damn good defense. They had nearly 500 yards overall.
 

saltybulldog

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And it pains me greatly to compliment Bama. Anyone saying their offense looks bad must be looking for Big 12 output from every team.
 

willis3

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There is a reason the Memphis offense didnt look good. The answer is the Ole Miss front 4. Hall had defensive players in his face all game. This is a Memphis team that ranked around 20th in the nation in offense last year. Not too bad holding them to 14pts and 7 pts came off a 25yd drive when they intercepted Snead and returned it inside the 30yd line. Ole Miss wins 45-14 with 12 players having the flu. Snead, Johnny Brown, and Shay Hodge being the main ones playing with the flu. You saw about 25% of our playbook. We ran the same one pass play to Dexter about 10+ times. I assume Nutt figured he would keep running this simple play because it worked everytime. It took us 4 games last year to find any consistency on offense. It took 2.5 quarters to see improvement this year. I will take that any day.

And about the rankings. These ranking dont mean a darn thing until the end of the year. If we make it past South Carolina with a win, then the Bama game will be the game we need to win to justify our ranking. If we lose a close game or win then our ranking is probably right on target. If we get blown out, then we need to be dropped.

Good luck to State the rest of year except in the Egg Bowl.
 

patdog

Heisman
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You know that Bama is your biggest challenger for the SEC West and want to believe they're not all that good. They're damn good and that's just a fact. You may beat them in Oxford, but you'll have to play a hell of a game to do it. No way in hell they lose 3 games this year like I saw someone (maybe you but not sure) post they would.
 

GloryDawg

Heisman
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14,811
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markymark said:
Big D said:
They are going to have to step it up a notch or two once their SEC play start. If they don't play any better then they did Sunday, Alabama will beat them by 20 point. Not only that, they will loose to South Carolina and LSU. I think Vandy will play their *** off when they line up with Ole Miss. They better be ready.</p>
i hate this crap. typos are one thing, but it's not that hard to learn the difference between lose & loose. There & their are pretty bad too, but lose & loose are misused so much it's pathetic. Everybody posting should already have or be in the process of getting a college degree. Have some damn pride.

<me stepping off soapbox>
I wish that all I had to ***** about.
 

Optimus Prime 4

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through three quarters. That's not lighting it up. 35% 3rd down efficiency isn't awesome either. They did turn it on the fourth though.
 

patdog

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1. Memphis was 6th in their ****** conference in scoring last year at 27 points per game.
2. This was in a conference where the average defense gave up 30 points per game.

Tell me again how good their offense is.</p>
 

GloryDawg

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markymark said:
Big D said:
They are going to have to step it up a notch or two once their SEC play start. If they don't play any better then they did Sunday, Alabama will beat them by 20 point. Not only that, they will loose to South Carolina and LSU. I think Vandy will play their *** off when they line up with Ole Miss. They better be ready.</p>
i hate this crap. typos are one thing, but it's not that hard to learn the difference between lose & loose. There & their are pretty bad too, but lose & loose are misused so much it's pathetic. Everybody posting should already have or be in the process of getting a college degree. Have some damn pride.

<me stepping off soapbox>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">You can take your self off stroke watch, it's fixed. Now can we get back to football? If not I am sure there is some Geek English Grammar message board somewhere.
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RebelBruiser

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We performed better defensively against their offense this year than we did last year. That's about all I can compare it to right now. Other than that, we're looking at a 1 game sample for everyone. Everyone you saw this weekend will play better games than they played this weekend, and most will play worse games than they played this weekend at some point in the season.

Based off one weekend, I think we may be overrated, but we'll have a chance to prove it either way. We covered the spread this past weekend despite playing poorly. And we obviously have plenty to work on, as do most teams at this point. That's about all I can glean at this point.
 

fishwater99

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They will not be able to stop them, and Bama's defense is pretty damn good too.

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think the JSU game is an accurate judge of how State will do this year? I hope not. But why hold OM so accountable for its play against Memphis? A dumbed down game plan with a goal of getting a W and staying healthly. Hopefully, for your sake, Mullen did the same. Had we been playing VT on Sat. night, I'm sure you would've seen a different OM team. But as one has stated....you guys see what you want to see.
 

patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
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24,825
113
You won 45-14. That's not playing like ****. My only point in that post was to the Rebel who was claiming your defense had shut down a good offense. Memphis's offense is average at best.
 

GloryDawg

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RipleyReb said:
think the JSU game is an accurate judge of how State will do this year? I hope not. But why hold OM so accountable for its play against Memphis? A dumbed down game plan with a goal of getting a W and staying healthly. Hopefully, for your sake, Mullen did the same. Had we been playing VT on Sat. night, I'm sure you would've seen a different OM team. But as one has stated....you guys see what you want to see.
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">If Ole Miss was playing VT Saturday night and they were playing VT at the same level they were playing Memphis on Sunday, Ole Miss might be number 18 in the nation and not number 6 today. Also how can you compare Miss State opener to Ole Miss? Ole Miss just came off a 9 win season and they were number 9 in the nation. Miss State just came off a 4 win season and started this one at about number 82. You were the number 8 team in the nation, PLAY LIKE IT and you won't catch hell when you don't.

The fact of the matter is, if you play all season like you did on Sunday, you will finish with 7 wins and out of the top 25.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span></p>
 

RebelBruiser

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Big D said:
RipleyReb said:
think the JSU game is an accurate judge of how State will do this year? I hope not. But why hold OM so accountable for its play against Memphis? A dumbed down game plan with a goal of getting a W and staying healthly. Hopefully, for your sake, Mullen did the same. Had we been playing VT on Sat. night, I'm sure you would've seen a different OM team. But as one has stated....you guys see what you want to see.
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">If Ole Miss was playing VT Saturday night and they were playing VT at the same level they were playing Memphis on Sunday, Ole Miss might be number 18 in the nation and not number 6 today. Also how can you compare Miss State opener to Ole Miss? Ole Miss just came off a 9 win season and they were number 9 in the nation. Miss State just came off a 4 win season and started this one at about number 82. You were the number 8 team in the nation, PLAY LIKE IT and you won't catch hell when you don't.

The fact of the matter is, if you play all season like you did on Sunday, you will finish with 7 wins and out of the top 25.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span></p>

You completely missed his point. He's saying that we played conservative due to the opponent, and we would've brought a different game plan with more twists had we had an opponent like Va. Tech. In particular, there were things that were discussed this off-season that did not show up in our offensive game plan against Memphis.

And again, despite Snead having an off day and despite our defense not tackling as well as they could, we still covered the spread.

The point is to win. Alabama last year had multiple weeks where they didn't play like a Top 5 team, but they won every week until the SEC title game and Sugar Bowl. I will go ahead and prepare you. We will bring out a very conservative, vanilla game plan against SELA, and we'll probably play our reserves a lot. We may not beat them by 50 because of it, so just be ready.
 

DowntownDawg

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...Memphis ranked 26th in total offense, and 46th in scoring offense in 2008, in a conference whose defenses gave up 400 yards and 30 points per game on average. The best defense in the conference gave up 21 points and 333 yards/game. Memphis was, like pat said, 5th in total offense and 6th in scoring offense, in this conference of extremely weak defenses.

Check your stats next time.
 

GloryDawg

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RebelBruiser said:
Big D said:
RipleyReb said:
think the JSU game is an accurate judge of how State will do this year? I hope not. But why hold OM so accountable for its play against Memphis? A dumbed down game plan with a goal of getting a W and staying healthly. Hopefully, for your sake, Mullen did the same. Had we been playing VT on Sat. night, I'm sure you would've seen a different OM team. But as one has stated....you guys see what you want to see.
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">If Ole Miss was playing VT Saturday night and they were playing VT at the same level they were playing Memphis on Sunday, Ole Miss might be number 18 in the nation and not number 6 today. Also how can you compare Miss State opener to Ole Miss? Ole Miss just came off a 9 win season and they were number 9 in the nation. Miss State just came off a 4 win season and started this one at about number 82. You were the number 8 team in the nation, PLAY LIKE IT and you won't catch hell when you don't.

The fact of the matter is, if you play all season like you did on Sunday, you will finish with 7 wins and out of the top 25.</p>

You completely missed his point. He's saying that we played conservative due to the opponent, and we would've brought a different game plan with more twists had we had an opponent like Va. Tech. In particular, there were things that were discussed this off-season that did not show up in our offensive game plan against Memphis.

And again, despite Snead having an off day and despite our defense not tackling as well as they could, we still covered the spread.

The point is to win. Alabama last year had multiple weeks where they didn't play like a Top 5 team, but they won every week until the SEC title game and Sugar Bowl. I will go ahead and prepare you. We will bring out a very conservative, vanilla game plan against SELA, and we'll probably play our reserves a lot. We may not beat them by 50 because of it, so just be ready.
<span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">I am not going to split hair but he said, "But why hold OM so accountable for its play against Memphis?" and the way in inserted Miss State, <span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I took it to say why hold them to a different standard then Miss State and my point was because Ole Miss was the number 8 team in the nation.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>
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you're so eager to tear down OM that you can't think logically. Bruiser's right, you missed my point. In no way was I comparing State to OM. My point was basically, that from a gameplan and emotional standpoint, OM was not at it's best. Memphis just doesn't do that for our guys. I was also saying I hope State didn't show all their cards against JSU. However, on the other hand, had we been playing a team such as VT, you would have seen a totally different offensive gameplan and more fire in the belly on the emotional side. If we could play with the emotional energy every week that we had against FL, LSU, and Texas Tech last year, it would be easy.
 

MrHooch

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markymark said:
Big D said:
They are going to have to step it up a notch or two once their SEC play start. If they don't play any better then they did Sunday, Alabama will beat them by 20 point. Not only that, they will loose to South Carolina and LSU. I think Vandy will play their *** off when they line up with Ole Miss. They better be ready.</p>
i hate this crap. typos are one thing, but it's not that hard to learn the difference between lose & loose. There & their are pretty bad too, but lose & loose are misused so much it's pathetic. Everybody posting should already have or be in the process of getting a college degree. Have some damn pride.

<me stepping off soapbox>
go all the way with it. If you wanna judge people on their grammar (which I would not recommend, especially on THIS board), then you can't let the gimme's like "then" and "than" slip by. Your grammar-trolling = fail.
 

GloryDawg

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RipleyReb said:
you're so eager to tear down OM that you can't think logically. Bruiser's right, you missed my point. In no way was I comparing State to OM. My point was basically, that from a gameplan and emotional standpoint, OM was not at it's best. Memphis just doesn't do that for our guys. I was also saying I hope State didn't show all their cards against JSU. However, on the other hand, had we been playing a team such as VT, you would have seen a totally different offensive gameplan and more fire in the belly on the emotional side. If we could play with the emotional energy every week that we had against FL, LSU, and Texas Tech last year, it would be easy.
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">It does not matter what your game plan was, it does not matter who you were playing, you were the number 8 team in the nation and if you would have played like the number 8 team in the nation this thread would not have turn into this direction. Your number 8 team in the nation played like crap and if you had been playing VT you would have gotten the crap kicked out of you. If you play Alabama, LSU or even South Carolina and Vandy the way you played Memphis you are going to lose 4 games. </p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"></p>

</p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt">The number 8 team in the nation should play like the number 8 team.</span></p>

You guys did not look any different then you did in 2007. If I was a Ole Miss fan I would be questioning my team right now. Also you should not be so surprise that something negative is said about Ole Miss on a MSU message board.
 

GloryDawg

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dawgstudent said:
but this...
You guys did not look any different then you did in 2007.
is beyond absurd.
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Obviously that was absurd. It was my attempt at a right handed gut shot.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span></p>