Are conferences now too big?

Amacomo

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Yes, but even if we went back to the original 10 team SEC and big 10 those two conferences are remarkably better than any other conference.
 

QuaoarsKing

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Yes, let's do one of those 72-team super leagues with eight 9-team divisions.
 

patdog

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He’s right of course. 12 teams is really stretching it. Anything bigger is just too big. And really 10 should be the max. Ideally you’d have 7 conferences of 9-10 teams each that look very much like the old SEC, Big 10, SWC, Big 8, ACC, Big East & PAC-10. Take the 7 champions + a G5 champion & 4 at large for your 12-team playoffs.
 
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greenbean.sixpack

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Too big yes, but the SEC/Big 10 isn't downsizing. The SEC certainly needs a better formula for scheduling though. I doubt there's many teams out there that either conference is considering adding (UNC would be the prize).
 

ckDOG

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They are too big but wouldn't the playoffs autobid expand for more conferences and the same possibility remains? Not sure that fixes "imposter" teams from qualifying.
 

patdog

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They are too big but wouldn't the playoffs autobid expand for more conferences and the same possibility remains? Not sure that fixes "imposter" teams from qualifying.
With a 12-team playoff, there will always be imposters in the playoffs. And more smaller conferences would mean more automatic bids. I mapped out a playoff in my 7 old conferences format & it didn’t look much different. Swap in Missouri (Big 8 champ) for Arizona St, and maybe Alabama for SMU. Otherwise looks about the same.
 
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8dog

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Kind of but One of the main issues with Indianas schedule is that it hey missed Oregon who was an addition. The other issue is that Washington and Michigan- who were in the 4 team playoff last year were not good.
 

Perd Hapley

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Giant sized conferences require giant sized conference schedules to name a legit champion and prove out who the legit contenders are.

In 1992, there was a 12-team SEC with 8 conference games. You played 73% of the teams in the regular season. B1G teams played 80% of the league.

Now you have a 16-team SEC, but still just the 8 games. Big 10 has 18 teams and a 9-game schedule. Teams in both leagues only play 53% of the other teams in the conference. It’s a 17ing joke. Conferences really don’t even exist any more in the current configuration.

Both leagues (and the ACC / Big 12) need to be playing 11-game conference schedules. That’s how you get back to the proportion you need to have legitimate contenders emerge.
 

Mr. Cook

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Brandon Walker made a great point.


Yep

For the economists out there, this is the classic definition of an oligopoly….and, if you’ve been following college football the past 40 years, you could see this coming.
 

OG Goat Holder

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Toothpaste and tube.

Who cares that Indiana got lucky? The right teams will ultimately win it all. Y’all think too much about this stuff.
 

The Cooterpoot

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The average margin of victory was only about a point more than previous round one matchups. This is a big no story