ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

[Dog in the Know]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

Ive got it from a TOP DOG that Keenum is for and Byrne is against. Believe me. I purposely post some crap on here sometimes and my screen name is just for fun but Ive got this info from SOLID ground. I cannot reveal my connection for fear of losing out on other info but you would agree. It's solid.
If it happens. First game of the year for both schools. The need for legit OOC games is the problem. When Georgia can out bid us for the LA Techs, it comes with a price tag. Who can we play?

 

[War Machine Dawg]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

 

[Maroon Eagle]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

2011 *is* an election year after all.

 

[TheMAROONandWHITE]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

I think you have to remember that with everyone trying to fill out 12-game schedules and a comparatively limited athletic budget, sometimes small budget schools in big conferences have to make tough choices, like deciding to play Univ. South Alabama at their place. I suspect that USM is not at the top of Byrne's list. If they are ultimately scheduled and he then puts a real positive spin on it in the media, he does so while well aware of the drawbacks. The problem is that he is aware of all of the realities of running MSU's atheletic department, while we in message board land can stay in relatively blissful ignorance.</p>

 

[was21]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

we played them one time every three or four years...in Starkville....that is all...kind of like a one game deal with SE Louisina or Northeast Louisiana, or whatever in hell they call those schools now.

 

[topdawg.sixpack]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

Billy K is running UMiss.....

 

[topdawg.sixpack]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

Maroon Eagle has a point with this folks. Keenum is jockeying to get Bryant's attention and love. It is a sad, sad day when USM has more power on the political scene than MSU. The next Gov will appoint 8 members to the College Board. Damn.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

 

[was21]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

ever seen her, she doesn't exactly fit the image of a gold diggin' "Mississippi" woman..... The grove bunch was embarrassed.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

Then again, Khayat is all powerful, so maybe he knew back then that he would be caught.

 

[topdawg.sixpack]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

nm

 

[ArrowDawg]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

.....it's MSU that's the "red-headed stepchild" of football in this state. MSU regularly lacks both success on the field and media attention. At least USM can actually win games, even if they get litle attention. And yeah, it may be C-USA, but they'd still kick MSU's *** on a regular basis.

In a sense, I'm agreeing with your argument, but the sad thing is that the best reason MSU should stay away from playing them is because they'd beat the Dogs,

 

[dudehead]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

does not sound like a championship program in the making to me. I believe that the only way a program (or a person, for that matter) grows and develops is to face what it fears and go straight at it with everything you got. When you do this, even when you lose, you win.

 

[jamdawg96]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

the step-child now maybe. But USM has a ceiling. Essentially we don't. This series wouldn't go down until 2011 at the earliest, and I'd like to think that we'll be a much better team by then. We've lost to LA Tech, Troy, Tulane, and Houston. AND MAINE. Losing to USM would be no different. It's just one loss. Anyone who thinks this would have a significant impact on in-state recruiting doesn't get it. Or maybe you don't understand young people these days. Or are just too blind by your misguided feeling of supremacy over USM to think clearly.

Facilities, exposure, campus life, and coaching style far exceed one game. It sure as **** wouldn't be as big of a deal as losing to Ole Miss 45-0. We may never play USM and I'll be okay with it, but if anything's going to damage in-state recruiting, it's losing to Ole Miss, not Southern Miss.

I'm disappointed in this board. I thought it had balls. I request that my countdown slogan be taken down. Everyone here is scared to be a bulldog today. You don't deserve such humor. You can replace it with "Jamdawg sucks" if you want, I don't care. The thing is, Jamdawg is right.

 

[AssEndDawg]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

The thing is, Jamdawg thinks he's right no matter how silly he sounds.

 

[jamdawg96]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

You basically prove my point. And you're right, I'm sooooooooo silly. Ta-he-he. Why don't you take after your avatar and actually shed some insight? Damn. Gimme something worth considering, at least.

 

[sakedog]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

anyone has for not playing USM is the "what if we lose" line. Like that never happens. A win over USM would be ten times the win over MTSU and we are playing THERE this year. This would be a different argument if we were scheduling mediocre BCS teams like Purdue, Minnesota, TCU, Virginia, NC state, Arizona just to name a few that we could expect to beat and actually enjoy the game. Until that happens I hope we play USM, if for no other reason to have something to look forward to during football season.

 

[AllAmericanDawg]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

Play them and win. If we can't beat them, get someone in that can.

We should beat them every year...every year. We've lost to everyone else. Create the instate rivalry and have some fun with it.

Strike one nothing...another feather in the hat of the ninja

 

[coco]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

You guys are too funny. You are Miss State football. MSU football is a national joke. USM beating MSU would be expected. Seriously, you guys are delusional.i

<p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal">I work with 1000's agents from the 10 southern states and they have never heard of USM. The only thing they might know about is Bret Farve and even then they ask where he is from. I think I rather be a joke then a unknown second tier conference football team that can't even get the Janitors to go to the game, even if it free.

Here in my office I hear at lest one Southern Joke a day. You clowns need to look at your record against SEC schools before you talk smack. I would even compare MSU record against your records for the same common teams played. I am too lazy to look up but I bet Miss State has a better record against common opponents for the past 20 years.

Just how many times have you beaten a SEC School the past 20 years? So you and the other 9 USM fans can keep showing up with your cheap ungle polyester yellow shirt with the 1970''s collars and wish you had the fan base as MSU.</p>

You got an office job with those english skills?

 

[AssEndDawg]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

you care soooo much. I care too, but not eight different four paragraph posts on a message board care. I made a very cogent argument in the email I sent to Greg Byrne who is really the only person who's opinion matters.

But, since I have given you so much **** today, and thoroughly enjoyed doing so, I'll throw you a bone. I consider USM to be beneath us. True or not, doesn't matter, it's how I feel about them. I consider everything about their sports to be laughably beneath us (even while watching them in the World Series I looked at them with pity). While I hate Ole Miss and Alabama with a passion I don't feel that way about them. It's a family thing with the SEC. I also believe that the State of Mississippi is too small to truly support three major colleges. So, until someone can prove to me that Mississippi State playing USM in football will not do anything, no matter how slight, to help Southern Miss (which of course it will so you can't) then I will never, ever be for us playing them. So much so that I will take out my vengeance on the AD that makes this happen in the only way they understand, by withholding funds.

Now it's fair to ask, "you would hurt MSU out of anger because you felt our AD hurt MSU?" Yes. I never promised it would make sense.

 

[coco]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

i like seeing us win.
It would be relatively easy against Southern.

"what if we lose?" = LOSER MENTALITY

... god....

talking football rivalry with a Southern fan is like arguing with a midget.
pull his gold visor down over his eyes and stomp on his jimmy buffett CD collection. welcome to the SEC</p>

 

[jamdawg96]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

Although I don't share those sentiments, I applaud your effort to explain yourself with detail rather than vague simplicity. You are right, it would help Southern. But no more than any lower-conference opponent we grant the opportunity to play. If it's good for the State of Mississippi, in the long run, it's good for Mississippi State.

While your arrogance towards fellow Mississippians is ignorant and potentially warranting of further discussion (they're just a f*cking school man), I've grown tired of this subject for now. Agree to disagree. If your reasons are personal, that shouldn't be of my interest.

As for me caring soooo much, I only have to say... not really. The fact that I can write as much as I do with ease has very little to do with how much I'm truly concerned. I'm in grad school man. I should probably be writing something else. With that in mind...

 

[War Machine Dawg]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

God, I hope you aren't this negative in real life.

 

[omaha08]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

You obviously haven't been around southern fans very much (yes yes I know they're only nine of them). Playing them would be stupid. Are we going to charge the field and tear the gold posts down if we beat them? I don't get your logic nor arrows.

 

[War Machine Dawg]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

 

[RocketCityDawg]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

Not.

 

[omaha08]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

Sorry went to quick reply... was replying to jam

 

[usmsci]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

just take it for what its worth - but you are playing AT MTSU this year. where exactly is that recruiting advantage? that sounds like a more risk effort than playing USM. The only people that care so much about this game on BOTH sides of the fence, to the point of absolute hate, foaming at the mouth, are the people that were students in 1970s and 1980s, that have an axe to grind and personal vendettas and i am sick of it. Most students today don't really care as much as you would like to think.

I wish all the posters over on eagletalk and eaglepost would shut the hell up and quit being babies and being over excited with giddiness and rage over the fact that this game would happen. everyone on here should do the same. your lives would be much better.

 

[RobbieRandolph]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

He's a dubmass, and he made dubmass decisions.

 

[madison eagle]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

and has often been said. no one cares about USM in here. see you on page 10 soon

 

[bluenosedmule]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

The only people that care so much about this game on BOTH sides of the fence, to the point of absolute hate, foaming at the mouth, are the people that were students in 1970s and 1980s, that have an axe to grind and personal vendettas and i am sick of it. Most students today don't really care as much as you would like to think.

i agree, while it would be fun to talk smack with my sister in law (state grad) and a few co-workers, the game really means nothing to me. i understand the old timers feelings, but i dont have those feelings about state. but, yes there is always a but, if yall play uab, tulame, & houston all of cusa, why not usm? no im not begging for a game with msu but it has always confused me as to why yall play houston but not usm. tulane and uab i understand or at least i think i do. but houston? and yes i have read all the little man ****, recruiting, "small" fan base crap, etc etc. you have to come up with something else better.
anyway good luck on your upcoming season, hope yall beat the hell outa bama

 

[Orpheus]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

Okay, you guys can quit stressing out and relax. There will be no MSU/USM game. It isn't happening. Now you can focus on the trip to Murfreesboro and pray you don't lose that one.

 

[gdogg]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

each year. Jeez, they sign the players that MSU and UM do not recruit/offer every year. They play in a ****** two bit conference and lose to ****** CUSA programs every year. Sure they will "get up", but we won't?! This thread only serves to build on a "mystique" that doesn't exist. USM sucks! We should play them and beat the **** out of them every year. If we lose, it may serve to turn over a bad coaching situation sooner. The realities of scheduling out of conference opponents are basically dictating this move, if you are shocked this is coming up you haven't been paying attention.
Grow a sack and bring em' on, and shut those <17>ers up for good!

 

[Bulldog Backer]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

...on both ends. Look back a few years, and remember the Legislature trying to force the game. From both the Legislature and USM's perspective, they <span style="font-weight: bold;">NEED</span> this game to get close to being in the <span style="background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">black. </span> Their Athletic Department operates in the <span style="background-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">RED</span> and the Legislature appropriates the money to support it. Yes, they funnel the money into USM's General Appropriations Budget, but USM subsidizes their Athletic Department with those funds. Schedule State and/or Ole Miss and suddenly they sell out all their season tickets, are able to jack up the prices, and they get closer to being in the black. The Legislature knows this, knows they won't have to use taxpayers money to subsidize USM athletics, so the political pressure on Keenum to make this happen has to be great.

On the other end, it is <span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 0);">$$$$$</span> that is driving MSU's objection, even the bean counter Templeton refused to agree to a home and home game with a 50:50 split of both gates. Any half brain knows that, considering attendance and ticket prices, our gate would be double that of USM's. USM would get to take home a lot more money from Starkville than we would take from USM. What USM wants is for us, both MSU and UM, to help subsidize their Athletic Budget. We offered a higher than normal Conference-USA guarantee to Giannini to play them in Starkville. He refused, insisting on a home and home series and a 50:50 split of both gates. USM says "Play Anyone Anytime Anywhere," but they don't really mean it when it comes to their own state's SEC teams.

 

[madison eagle]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

They play in a ****** two bit conference and lose to ****** CUSA programs every year.

and you are basically .500 vs Houston Tulane and Freakin UAB. You really want to start this?

 

[wbc40]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

nm

 

[Griffdawg]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

by playing the University of Synthetic Material. I'm having a terrible flashback of our matchups in the 80's. Not so much the games, but the horror of seeing their portly "fans" wearing black polyester pants and puke yellow Wal-Mart shirts in the 90 degree heat. Just say no, Greg.

 

[madison eagle]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

http://www.geocities.com/bgandclara/godawgs.jpg

 

[Barkman Turner Overdrive]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

Go 17 yourself

 

[Ol Blue.sixpack]

ATTN: Greg "Ninja" Byrne - If USM appears on the schedule, it's Strike One.........

Actually what is driving it is the market for the sacrificial lambs of college football - schools that play in conferences like the Sun Belt. Their AD's finally realized that those "money games" they had been traveling all over the country playing are worth a lot more than what they had been getting. And so they raised the ante. The big boys of college football - schools like Texas and Florida and Alabama - can still afford the price of a home only appearance. But the mid-level schools and bottom feeders - like MSU and UK and Vandy - are having to get more creative. That's why you see MSU playing at MTSU this season. It's why UK is playing Miami in Cincinnati and why they signed a 4 game Lexington/Nashville deal with WKU. USM's AD is no dummy. He knows what these games are worth. So does Byrne and he saw a good deal and jumped at it. Some idiot in the Legislature might take credit for it, but they had nothing to do with it.