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BACATOLOGY: 2/13 NCAA TOURNAMENT ANALYSIS

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kcg88 said:
Why are we arguing about Miami's resume when they're 22-5 with only one bad loss and wins over Providence, Rutgers, Duke, NC State, Virginia, North Carolina, Clemson, and Wake Forest?
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because he just assumes because ru beat them and has better net they should be ahead. Miami is 22-5 and RU 17-10. Miami has proven a 5 for now is where they should be..that could fall to 6 but if they win the acc we are talking 4

Virginia though is a team im not impressed with. Their wins are not all that great.
 
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mugrat86 said:
Beating Providence at home is not a major accomplishment. Not sure why it’s important to have a strong out of conference resume. What’s more important is playing in a league with 8 teams going to dance and beating a lot of those teams like Purdue and Indiana
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yes beating Providence is a strong win. OOC matters, its important to committee, body of work. League wins are important to but Ooc is 1/3 of the season. RU performed mediocre with a sos of 308
 
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Utah at Arizona State tied at 60 with 1:13 left. Unfortunately only on Pac12 Network
 
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Arizona State will win and stay alive. They finish the year at Arizona, at UCLA, at USC.
 
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Nevada is up 22-6 at Utah State.

Will Baker for Nevada has all 22 of their points including 6-6 on three pointers.
 
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bac2therac said:
yes beating Providence is a strong win. OOC matters, its important to committee, body of work. League wins are important to but Ooc is 1/3 of the season. RU performed mediocre with a sos of 308
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Providence is interesting from a seeding perspective to me. They are unbeaten 15-0 at home but only .500 on the road with their best win at nova. Would really like to see them beat one of the other ranked 4 on the road or at the garden before I believe in them as a 2nd weekend tournament team.
 
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mugrat86 said:
Beating Providence at home is not a major accomplishment. Not sure why it’s important to have a strong out of conference resume. What’s more important is playing in a league with 8 teams going to dance and beating a lot of those teams like Purdue and Indiana
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Providence has lost one game in two years at home. So if it was done it would be a major accomplishment. Miami beat Providence on a neutral court at Mohegan.
 
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cicero grimes said:
Providence is interesting from a seeding perspective to me. They are unbeaten 15-0 at home but only .500 on the road with their best win at nova. Would really like to see them beat one of the other ranked 4 on the road or at the garden before I believe in them as a 2nd weekend tournament team.
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Top four teams in Big East are like 28-0 at home against each other. Only team that has a road victory is Xavier at Uconn. ( Uconn not in top 4)
 
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friar10 said:
Providence has lost one game in two years at home. So if it was done it would be a major accomplishment. Miami beat Providence on a neutral court at Mohegan.
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But if it was on a neutral court it’s not a big accomplishment
 
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kcg88 said:
Why are we arguing about Miami's resume when they're 22-5 with only one bad loss and wins over Providence, Rutgers, Duke, NC State, Virginia, North Carolina, Clemson, and Wake Forest?
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I’m not arguing about their resume just not set in stone that they’re an automatic 4 or 5 seed. Their resume is good so far, but when watching them against us I wasn’t saying wow are they good and if the stumble I could certainly see them drop to 6 or 7 seed
 
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mugrat86 said:
Our win at Northwestern is a better achievement than Miami’s against Providence
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I would agree especially since it was one of Providence's first five games of the season and they were replacing five starters from previous year. Miami is a very good team though.
 
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friar10 said:
I would agree especially since it was one of Providence's first five games of the season and they were replacing five starters from previous year. Miami is a very good team though.
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There is a reason our NET and Ken Pom rating is higher than Miami. We beat better teams and beat some good teams like MD and Indiana convincingly
 
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Clemson still has two Q1 games left but they are in real trouble with three Q4 losses.
 
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mugrat86 said:
There is a reason our NET and Ken Pom rating is higher than Miami. We beat better teams and beat some good teams like MD and Indiana convincingly
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Yes plus the Big Ten is quite a bit better then ACC. ACC has a lot of land mines as Clemson is finding out today.
 
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mugrat86 said:
Our win at Northwestern is a better achievement than Miami’s against Providence
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Thats a conference win. Our best win is Wake who is headed to Nit

Rutgers has very good wins...but 10 losses is still bulky
 
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Utah State has come all the way back from that 22-6 deficit to tie Nevada with 10 minutes left.

Michigan vs MSU also tight.
 
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Utah State completes the comeback to get a win and keep their hopes alive. They will also need to beat Boise State in a couple weeks.

Nevada's case is still fine but they've got nothing but landmines left. No chances to improve their standing until the conference tournament.
 
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because he just assumes because ru beat them and has better net they should be ahead. Miami is 22-5 and RU 17-10. Miami has proven a 5 for now is where they should be..that could fall to 6 but if they win the acc we are talking 4

Virginia though is a team im not impressed with. Their wins are not all that great.
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Would love to get them as game 2.
 
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friar10 said:
Top four teams in Big East are like 28-0 at home against each other. Only team that has a road victory is Xavier at Uconn. ( Uconn not in top 4)
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Yes and that kind of worries me come tournament time. If you exclude uconn the best road win of the top 4 is Creighton beating Arkansas. Not sure how that translates come ncaa time.

Don't get me wrong I am an old big east fan and root for the conference during the tourney with the exception of Yukon. I just think winning big games on the road toughens you for the tournament.
 
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kcg88 said:
Utah State completes the comeback to get a win and keep their hopes alive. They will also need to beat Boise State in a couple weeks.

Nevada's case is still fine but they've got nothing but landmines left. No chances to improve their standing until the conference tournament.
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Finally a win.
 
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