BACATOLOGY: 3/6 NCAA TOURNAMENT ANALYSIS***RUTGERS PROJECTED 11 SEED***

fatsam98

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Only games of note right now are Memphis-UCF and Arky-A&M. Both close but early….root for Memphis and Arky.

NW-PSU also close at half….duck Penn State.

Dook-Miami….close but early. Rooting for Miami because we played them + Dylan.

Kansas on as well….they’re so good.
UConn - Marquette... Tied at the half. I'm actually rooting for UConn to get a 3 seed
 
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RU848789

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The issue is all about the 4 q3 losses on the team sheet

Again like last year its unique resume

Only clemson has similar with 2q3 and 2q4s

Its how the committee considers them

They might disregard and RU gets a 10 seed
Not all Q3 losses are equal. Three of our 4 are barely Q3 losses:
  • SHU is #78 vs. the range of 76-160 for a Q3 home loss (and it was a rivalry game)
  • Temple is #120 vs. the range of 101-200 for Q3 neutral loss (and we were missing 2 starters, so I would imagine the Committee does something like moving that to a Q2 loss, vs. completely ignoring it)
  • Nebraska is similar to SHU, i.e, #94 vs. the range of 76-160 for a Q3 home loss
  • Yes, MN is a bad Q3 loss, but IMO, it's our only truly "bad" loss all year, at #221 vs. the range of 136-240 for Q3 away losses.
If they split Q1 and Q2 into two halves, not sure why they wouldn't do the same for Q3 and Q4; we'd then have 3 "upper Q3" losses and 1 "lower Q3" loss. Even if they don't do it formally, I'm sure they get into such discussions when doing seeding, especially drawing the line between Dayton and not in Dayton and that will help us.
 

bac2therac

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Not all Q3 losses are equal. Three of our 4 are barely Q3 losses:
  • SHU is #78 vs. the range of 76-160 for a Q3 home loss (and it was a rivalry game)
  • Temple is #120 vs. the range of 101-200 for Q3 neutral loss (and we were missing 2 starters, so I would imagine the Committee does something like moving that to a Q2 loss, vs. completely ignoring it)
  • Nebraska is similar to SHU, i.e, #94 vs. the range of 76-160 for a Q3 home loss
  • Yes, MN is a bad Q3 loss, but IMO, it's our only truly "bad" loss all year, at #221 vs. the range of 136-240 for Q3 away losses.
If they split Q1 and Q2 into two halves, not sure why they wouldn't do the same for Q3 and Q4; we'd then have 3 "upper Q3" losses and 1 "lower Q3" loss. Even if they don't do it formally, I'm sure they get into such discussions when doing seeding, especially drawing the line between Dayton and not in Dayton and that will help us.

I know that but its still an outlier compared to rest of bubble besides Clemson

Remember alot of these guys hate Rutgers for some reason i have no idea why
 

fischy5000

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MSU way locked in over us. We want MSU to win to get us another Q1 win.
i dont see much on their schedule to make MSU a lock and especially around 7 where i saw them earlier (i guess before OSU loss). not arguing with you..just not seeing it even though thats what everyone is saying.
 
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Only games of note right now are Memphis-UCF and Arky-A&M. Both close but early….root for Memphis and Arky.

NW-PSU also close at half….duck Penn State.

Dook-Miami….close but early. Rooting for Miami because we played them + Dylan.

Kansas on as well….they’re so good.
Why do we want Arkansas?
 

Rhuarc

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There are no need for quads. Keep the numbers that the quads represent and create a simple equation to compare teams with the actual numbers that are created.
 
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RURahh

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@bac2therac - first off, greatly appreciate all you do, hope somehow you are getting a NIL deal for all this.

2 questions:

A) Does the fact that we have now been to 3 tournaments in a row, and that Pike is a fairly well known commodity, influence the committee. I seem to remember a few years where Mich St got selected based on the Izzo factor, not that Pike has that kind of clout

B) Apologies if I missed this, but do you think PSU is in no matter what happens against Northwestern. I think THEY are the team that no one should want to face in the tournament.

Thanks again !!
 
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cicero grimes

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Anyone see the aac game this afternoon between temple and cinncy. You could have fit the amount of fans there on a school bus with room to spare. Thank God we made it to the B1G.
 

kcg88

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Memphis messing around with UCF. They're safely in but do they stay above the Dayton line with a loss?
 
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RU848789

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There are no need for quads. Keep the numbers that the quads represent and create a simple equation to compare teams with the actual numbers that are created.
I assumed they actually did something like that, which would be easy to do, and that the quads were simply a way to represent the relative breakdown of "rated" games on one sheet.
 

bac2therac

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i dont see much on their schedule to make MSU a lock and especially around 7 where i saw them earlier (i guess before OSU loss). not arguing with you..just not seeing it even though thats what everyone is saying.

They have alot of quality win. No bad losses and strong sos
 

bac2therac

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I assumed they actually did something like that, which would be easy to do, and that the quads were simply a way to represent the relative breakdown of "rated" games on one sheet.

The rankings are listed on the team sheet
 

RU848789

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I know that but its still an outlier compared to rest of bubble besides Clemson

Remember alot of these guys hate Rutgers for some reason i have no idea why
True, but all I care about is the Committee and I'm sure they will take the type of Q3 losses into consideration (and the OSU game in some small way) and presumably they don't hate any team.
 

Scangg

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Audige almost makes a circus shot at the buzzer but had time to take a normal shot

PSU erases any doubt. Rutgers has 2 wins against them though
 

JavaDunk18

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Should have put the rebound back up to tie the game..
Penn St was probably ahead of us in the field anyway. They are a 10 now. We will get the byed 11..
Nothing changes with this
 
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