In my opinion you're dead wrong about both Hood and Pollard. We'll never know for sure but Hood had been wavering on leaving ever since the fight in Hawaii (when Hood was sill in HS) and that continued right on through the entire season this past year. He was never really on board. And Pollard never once even gave any indication we were even his leader. I don't have any idea why so many people convinced themselves that we somehow had him pretty much locked up until we fired Stans. Nothing could be further from the truth.
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Exactly ...
looks like Ray has the team hustling at practice. He may end up being the X & Os kind of coach many have been asking for to take Stans place BUT recruiting is a HUGE part of being successful and 'WHO' of any note has Ray signed? Best I can tell ... NADA, so far.
I agree with DAWG61 that "sign 3 HS studs" BUT Ray has signed squat. Where, exactly are the "3 HS Studs" that you see committing?
Meanwhile, Johnny Jones has coached the same number of games as Ray BUT he has landed over 8 highly rated players for LSU; Jarell Martin, five star, #14 national HS player just committed.
I'm hoping Ray can get this group going but he needs to recruit some 'studs' if he wants to be competitive in the SEC.
looks like Ray has the team hustling at practice. He may end up being the X & Os kind of coach many have been asking for to take Stans place BUT recruiting is a HUGE part of being successful and 'WHO' of any note has Ray signed? Best I can tell ... NADA, so far.
I agree with DAWG61 that "sign 3 HS studs" BUT Ray has signed squat. Where, exactly are the "3 HS Studs" that you see committing?
Meanwhile, Johnny Jones has coached the same number of games as Ray BUT he has landed over 8 highly rated players for LSU; Jarell Martin, five star, #14 national HS player just committed.
I'm hoping Ray can get this group going but he needs to recruit some 'studs' if he wants to be competitive in the SEC.
Look again ...
MSU will not beat LSU anytime soon ...
Jones is a first-year head coach and former point guard for the Tigers, and he adds five-star Martin to the fold along with four-star recruits Tim Quarterman and Jordan Mickey. Junior college transfers Deng Deng and John Odoh will arrive in 2013 as well, setting the Tigers up with a solid foundation to succeed in Jones' first season at the helm.
Ray may be the best coach in CBB BUT if he can't recruit, he won't win ... period.
MSU will not beat LSU anytime soon ...
Jones is a first-year head coach and former point guard for the Tigers, and he adds five-star Martin to the fold along with four-star recruits Tim Quarterman and Jordan Mickey. Junior college transfers Deng Deng and John Odoh will arrive in 2013 as well, setting the Tigers up with a solid foundation to succeed in Jones' first season at the helm.
Ray may be the best coach in CBB BUT if he can't recruit, he won't win ... period.
Guess we can agree to disagree on all that based on what I was hearing but I don't really understand why Hood would have been wanting to leave after this past season based on team issues when the biggest problem child (Renardo) was going to be sent on his merry way regardless.
Ray may turn out to be a pretty good coach but
but I have this sick feeling we may end up signing the same number of "HS studs" post-Stans and we did pre-Stans, ZERO.
but I have this sick feeling we may end up signing the same number of "HS studs" post-Stans and we did pre-Stans, ZERO.
What agenda? My only agenda was to show that, while the 20-win plateau was an excellent measuring stick of a program a decade ago, it's time is now passed. Making the NCAAs is a much better/more apt measuring stick in today's game...
I feel like Coach on this one...in that I'm not yet even close to sold on Ray yet, but I'm fully willing to jump in and pull for him while giving him a chance. A large portion of our fanbase have their mind made up that he will be a failure and will thus either advertently or inadvertently sabotage his efforts because their jimmies are still rustled about Stansbury. Much the same way that Cohen's rebuild has been much more difficult than it should/could have been, given the amount of the fanbase that stuck by Polk and didn't support him in the beginning. Heck, much of the baseball fanbase are just NOW beginning to warm up to him after 4 years, and he still has nowhere near 100% support...
For how many years in a row have we heard, "Well, now that ___________ is gone, Stans's disciplinary problems won't be as bad." At some point you just have to face the fact the the common denominator was Stans. Not Sidney. Not Kodi. Not one of the Delk twins. Not Hansbrough. Not Deville Smith. Not Sharpe. Not any of the rest. It was Stans. And it wasn't ever going to change. He had 6 years to get control back over the basketball team after he lost it. And it didn't get any better. It got worse. There's absolutely no reason to think that somehow this would have magically been the year he got it back. That's just not how it works in the real world. Once a coach loses a team, it's damn near impossible to get it back.
Somebody is a relatively new fan of the program. Not a bad thing by any means. It's just gonna be hard for you to understand.
Are those records reflective of post-season play (conference tournaments and NCAA/NIT/CBI/etc) or just regular season?
Total overall final records...Too much trouble to go back through those 42 teams and determine their records prior to postseason play.
For that matter, how hard is it to go .500 in the big6? There were 21 of 74 teams that were sub .500 last year...
4 in the ACC
4 in the Big12
5 in the BigEast
2 in the B1G
3 in the Pac12
3 in the SEC
Of those 21, only 12 were more than 2 games under .500
For that matter, how hard is it to go .500 in the big6? There were 21 of 74 teams that were sub .500 last year...
4 in the ACC
4 in the Big12
5 in the BigEast
2 in the B1G
3 in the Pac12
3 in the SEC
Of those 21, only 12 were more than 2 games under .500
No, it's been well established that Pollard wasn't coming no matter what and Hood decided to transfer while Stans was still here.
I repeat, if we still had Stans, we would NOT have Hood or Pollard on the roster. Why do people keep thinking we would when it's been said over and over that we wouldn't?
because that doesnt help their side of the argument that everything would be better if we had just kept ********** another season. You can bet plenty of "I told you so's" are coming as soon as basketball tips off.