Beshear about to issue mask Mandate in schools?

KingOfBBN

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If you look like this, you need to seriously consider taking the vaccine and not rolling the dice.



If you look like this, however, you're 100% entitled to your God given liberties we all agreed were important yesterday - that they were fundamental American values, whatver your reason be it lizard people, 5G computer chips, your Hari Krishna beliefs, you just don't want to whatever... that's your right


“Guys everybody ought to take this vaccine, ya’ll. I’m 327 pounds and 5-foot-4 and gots the covid. Was healthy as a horse here’s in Missouri and all’s I know is you better start getting this here vaccine. Mask up and jab your 4 year olds.”
 

Blue_2_the_bone_rivals

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Oh there’s a graph. No way that’s not true. They used PowerPoint!

Make sure to keep track of the flu from now on.
One of my last years in the classroom was during the Swine Flu year. At one point I had 24/28 students home with one type of flu or another. Several of my students were in the hospital. That year quite a few children died from the flu in the state. Compare that to Covid. 1 school age child death in the state with a child with Down Syndrome who had leukemia and contracted pneumonia with Covid. It’s not about the kids.
 

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One of my last years in the classroom was during the Swine Flu year. At one point I had 24/28 students home with one type of flu or another. Several of my students were in the hospital. That year quite a few children died from the flu in the state. Compare that to Covid. 1 school age child death in the state with a child with Down Syndrome who had leukemia and contracted pneumonia with Covid. It’s not about the kids.
Elementary kids won’t keep them on anyway. As you’ve pointed out, they’ll trade masks and wipe their noses with them... because they’re kids. Also there is 0 point to masking (period but I digress) if you’re going to allow them to go 35-40 minutes at lunch without them and at gym/recess... which is what happens.

If they were truly worried about kids getting sick and dying they’d just make it strictly virtual or encourage everyone to homeschool if possible. The latter would never happen, lives at risk or not.
 

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We got the vaunted email today from Superintendent of Campbell County. My two school aged kids are in third/kindergarten.

Mask mandate is on....

Funniest part for me...school is having open house outdoors on Monday. Were supposed to have hot dogs and Kona Ice. Hot Dogs have been canceled, Kona Ice is still on. Can't make this stuff up.

Another funny part...parents can't walk their kids into school on first day, mask or no mask, vaccinated or not. Yet just yesterday I was at school with 100 other parents for Kindergarten day and 90% had no mask sitting in the cafeteria for 30-45 minutes...nobody said a word. Teachers were masked, but parents were fine to come and go

I don't blame our Superintendent, he is a bright guy. This is all pressure rolling downhill...
 

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Beshear is putting superintendents in a terrible position by not mandating masks. Most rational people realize we are in a pandemic and roll with it, but meanwhile there are parents with kids with real health issues who are further protected by a small nuisance. The argument of anti-maskers really amount to a feeling where masks help prevent spread. So, stop being a ***** and mandate the masks.
 

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Beshear is putting superintendents in a terrible position by not mandating masks. Most rational people realize we are in a pandemic and roll with it, but meanwhile there are parents with kids with real health issues who are further protected by a small nuisance. The argument of anti-maskers really amount to a feeling where masks help prevent spread. So, stop being a ***** and mandate the masks.
Cases do not equate hospitalizations or deaths. Covid effects children mildy if at all in the overwhelming majority of cases. There has been 1 school age child die from pneumonia with covid in this state and that child suffered from Leukemia and Downs. Parents can still have their children mask at school or attend virtual school if they are really worried about their health. Local districts should have control. They know their clientele better than anyone. Students do not wear them correctly, constantly touch their faces, wear dirty masks. Making masks mandatory at all times at school goes like this. “Students, please keep your masks on. Okay, now students remove your masks so you can eat lunch or snack.” It’s comical.
 

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Cases do not equate hospitalizations or deaths. Covid effects children mildy if at all in the overwhelming majority of cases. There has been 1 school age child die from pneumonia with covid in this state and that child suffered from Leukemia and Downs. Parents can still have their children mask at school or attend virtual school if they are really worried about their health. Local districts should have control. They know their clientele better than anyone. Students do not wear them correctly, constantly touch their faces, wear dirty masks. Making masks mandatory at all times at school goes like this. “Students, please keep your masks on. Okay, now students remove your masks so you can eat lunch or snack.” It’s comical.
Is a pandemic really comical? Teach your kids a valuable lesson. Nature doesn’t give a **** about them or their parents political bitching. Amazing the vast majority of doctors do believe masks prevent spread and know vaccine prevents spread. But here we are. Ickabod in Rabbit Hash spoke to a nurse at Guntown Mountain who says they aren’t needed. Cool.
 

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August 06, 2021
Surging COVID-19 rates throughout the country and in many parts of the world make our efforts to protect ourselves and others more important than ever. Currently, the Delta variant is driving much of the increase in the US. Vaccinated people are well-protected against severe disease, hospitalizations, and death. But a a large outbreak in July 2021 shows that everyone — even vaccinated people — may spread infection with this variant if they get it.
Vaccination remains a top priority. Most people who have been hospitalized or died from COVID-19 in recent months were not vaccinated. In places where vaccination rates are low or the number of COVID cases is rising, experts estimate we can save thousands of lives and considerably boost the chances of controlling the pandemic if we all commit to following mask guidelines and other standard preventive measures.

Why do we believe masks work?​

Early in the pandemic, experts expressed skepticism that masks would be helpful for the general public, particularly in places with little to no community spread of the virus. In addition, to avoid worsening shortages of medical-grade masks for health workers who needed this protection, masks were not widely recommended.
But a rapidly expanding body of evidence supports the benefits of nonmedical masks and cloth face coverings. Some of the strongest evidence includes these reviews (here and here) and observational studies (here, here, here, and here), which found that mask-wearing leads to lower rates of infection. And this impressive graphic display from the New York Times shows how masks help trap larger respiratory droplets and some of the smaller particles known as aerosols.
 

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Is a pandemic really comical? Teach your kids a valuable lesson. Nature doesn’t give a **** about them or their parents political bitching.
No the hypocrisy is comical. Seeing people like you virtue signal is comical. Seeing people like you who say follow science or nature but then suggest the opposite when it comes to kids is comical. Quit acting like it’s about the kids. This isn’t detrimental to them and you have no data to prove it is.
 

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No the hypocrisy is comical. Seeing people like you virtue signal is comical. Seeing people like you who say follow science or nature but then suggest the opposite when it comes to kids is comical. Quit acting like it’s about the kids. This isn’t detrimental to them and you have no data to prove it is.
There is no hypocrisy. You don’t like the truth so you want to ignore it. Just like any other conspiracy that gives you warm and fuzzies when reality is ugly. Please point out where the Harvard doctor is wrong while you are some how enlightened. Get real.
 

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Mask mandates can't be shown to be effective at all, for adults.

If not even adults can benefit from their use, then children certainly won't either. You are doing way more harm then good, which is what Evidence Based Medicine is actually all about. Above all else, do no harm.

Poor kids, you add insult to injury. Not only are they stuck with moron parents and a PO$ governor, but you have to ruin their childhood further still by muzzling them unnecessarily just to placate your fears and neuroticism.

There is NO "safe." The virus is going to virus; whatever benefit you do by muzzling them vis a vis virus transmission rates is clearly outweighed by the developmental harm.

Case growth was not significantly different between mandate and non-mandate states at low or high transmission rates, and surges were equivocal.

 

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And do you want to cite the enumerable evidence that covid is spreading through the child population at an increasing rate?
 

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Say it doesn’t matter to my friends kid with 40% lung capacity that masks, which again have been proven to work, should not be used in schools when covid is increasing in children. All because you don’t want kids to wear cloth over their mouths through most of school. Selfish and weak.
 

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There is no hypocrisy. You don’t like the truth so you want to ignore it. Just like any other conspiracy that gives you warm and fuzzies when reality is ugly.
No conspiracy theory here. I’d like to think you’re just being obtuse but that gives you too much credit. Data in context is truth. Not cherry picked data. I have many colleagues who like myself caught covid. All of us wore our masks in full accordance to the guidelines. In fact 85% of people in one report who contracted Covid did as well. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...symptomatic-people-often-or-always-wore-masks

The CDC itself stated in FOIA requests that there have been zero randomized control trials that show cloth masks are effective. There is plenty of evidence to show they aren’t effective, everyone just gives a “well it can’t hurt” . https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2006372

I’ll keep going with my “conspiracy theory”.
 

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August 06, 2021
Surging COVID-19 rates throughout the country and in many parts of the world make our efforts to protect ourselves and others more important than ever. Currently, the Delta variant is driving much of the increase in the US. Vaccinated people are well-protected against severe disease, hospitalizations, and death. But a a large outbreak in July 2021 shows that everyone — even vaccinated people — may spread infection with this variant if they get it.
Vaccination remains a top priority. Most people who have been hospitalized or died from COVID-19 in recent months were not vaccinated. In places where vaccination rates are low or the number of COVID cases is rising, experts estimate we can save thousands of lives and considerably boost the chances of controlling the pandemic if we all commit to following mask guidelines and other standard preventive measures.

Why do we believe masks work?​

Early in the pandemic, experts expressed skepticism that masks would be helpful for the general public, particularly in places with little to no community spread of the virus. In addition, to avoid worsening shortages of medical-grade masks for health workers who needed this protection, masks were not widely recommended.
But a rapidly expanding body of evidence supports the benefits of nonmedical masks and cloth face coverings. Some of the strongest evidence includes these reviews (here and here) and observational studies (here, here, here, and here), which found that mask-wearing leads to lower rates of infection. And this impressive graphic display from the New York Times shows how masks help trap larger respiratory droplets and some of the smaller particles known as aerosols.

There is little benefit from wearing a mask.
 

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Beshear is putting superintendents in a terrible position by not mandating masks. Most rational people realize we are in a pandemic and roll with it, but meanwhile there are parents with kids with real health issues who are further protected by a small nuisance. The argument of anti-maskers really amount to a feeling where masks help prevent spread. So, stop being a ***** and mandate the masks.
Masks don't work stop waiting for a governor. If you're so desperate to wear a mask, wear one. It won't do anything, but wear one.
 

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Andy needs to add some other charts to that. Cases don’t equal deaths. Below are the actual statistics for Kentucky. They are masking our kids (and when FDA approved , will mandate the Covid shot for school entry) for 1 death in people 0-19 years of age..out of 78,656 cases in 0-19 years of age. Are the children being masked and soon mandated to take the shot to attend school to protect adults who have chosen not to get the vaccine. Are you ok with that?

 

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Andy needs to add some other charts to that. Cases don’t equal deaths. Below are the actual statistics for Kentucky. They are masking our kids (and when FDA approved , will mandate the Covid shot for school entry) for 1 death in people 0-19 years of age..out of 78,656 cases in 0-19 years of age. Are the children being masked and soon mandated to take the shot to attend school to protect adults who have chosen not to get the vaccine. Are you ok with that?

He doesn’t give a ****. Lee and all of his communist leftists are all about their political dogma. They will justify anything done. Doesn’t matter what it is. They are a cult.
 
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I’ve decided you should delete your account.
I’ve decided you won’t make decisions for me, so you will get to see more of me 🕺🏻 Or you can decide to hit that ignore button..but maybe you won’t untill king Andy tells you to. Thanks for the bump on the thread though. Hope you keep playing!
 

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Andy needs to add some other charts to that. Cases don’t equal deaths. Below are the actual statistics for Kentucky. They are masking our kids (and when FDA approved , will mandate the Covid shot for school entry) for 1 death in people 0-19 years of age..out of 78,656 cases in 0-19 years of age. Are the children being masked and soon mandated to take the shot to attend school to protect adults who have chosen not to get the vaccine. Are you ok with that?

And the 1 death was a child was was severely sick already. The child suffered from Downs and Leukemia. Ended up with pneumonia and passed. Terrible situation but it wasn’t an average school aged child.
 
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Use it to decide what’s best for you and your family (should be able to but we can’t). Use it to decide how you feel about decisions being made for you. Can’t believe everything you here in media. Best to look at actual data.

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