Beshear about to issue mask Mandate in schools?

LowerLevelSeatA

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He has never planned on being a two term governor. And that’s fine. He’s getting us through this nightmare. Be interesting who the republicans decide on.
No he’s not getting us thru it, supposedly we are right back in it, according to him and his people. I’m not a fan of his, but at this point I would be more than happy to publish a 100 page paper praising him like crazy if he can get us out of this nightmare and we can all agree to go on with our normal lives. Why hasn’t he got us out of it yet? And he still never has fixed unemployment after spending millions on consultants.
While I want a different governor now, I can agree with you on one thing, Bevin didn’t help himself with his presentation.
 
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bigsmoothie

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Your phone ain't the problem
Remember this next year

king Andy acts like he is being nice not considering it, but he’s not considering it because there are court orders against his powers at the moment. If there was not a court ruling, I bet he would impose his will on us.

You don’t know what he would do.
 

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Again I can't wait until King Andy is out of office. He has done nothing but destroy this state. His masking charade is only going to move people in the opposite direction. I got the stupid vaccine so I could quit wearing the mask so why in the hell do I need to put it back on?
 

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You don’t know what he would do.
Ed

Guess your phone is acting up again 😉. Have you been hiding in the basement the past year? There was a reason these court filings were done…and it wasn’t because the king was letting us live free, making our own personal choices. You and I both know exactly what he would do.
 
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Ed

Guess your phone is acting up again 😉. Have you been hiding in the basement the past year? There was a reason these court filings were done…and it wasn’t because the king was letting us live free, making our own personal choices. You and I both know exactly what he would do.
You don’t like democrats maybe republicans should run some decent candidates 😂😂
 

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You don’t like democrats maybe republicans should run some decent candidates 😂😂
No worries. I think more people are seeing the direction the county is going and I think things will take care of themselves in time. If and when they do I guess you will be free to impose your own restrictions on yourself…the way it should be..you decide what’s best for you and your family. Choice/freedom that’s all I desire no matter what party is in power. I think there are a ton of crooked politicians on both sides of the aisle.
 
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This is simple.

Kids are not at risk.

All of their parents and grandparents who are can get a shot that is almost CERTAIN to keep them from getting sick enough to go to the hospital.

All of the teachers can also get the shot.

There is little evidence that the masks work.

No reason to mask.

If Beshear had balls he'd mandate that all teachers get vaccinated.
 

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No worries. I think more people are seeing the direction the county is going and I think things will take care of themselves in time. If and when they do I guess you will be free to impose your own restrictions on yourself…the way it should be..you decide what’s best for you and your family. Choice/freedom that’s all I desire no matter what party is in power. I think there are a ton of crooked politicians on both sides of the aisle.
You are going to be in for a tough next several years
 

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Masking, social distancing, etc. lost any semblance of legitimacy last summer when we watched roving gangs of thugs burn, loot and terrorize several major American cities. Few if any wore masks and social distancing? Nonexistent.
Politicians, the media and even a few so-called medical "professionals" gleefully excused the lack of masks and distancing on the part of the terrorists.

This same storyline is being replayed this summer only with illegal immigrants this time. Hundreds of thousands of illegals are flooding across the southern border. Many are carrying a variant of Covid with them. They are not being tested, they are not forced to wear masks or socially distance. Yet, we have governors, mayors, unelected "czars" and a dementia-riddled President on TV every night talking up a return to mandatory masking?

The takeaway from all of this is a.) Masks are not terribly important. b.) Politicians and the media suspend rules where their agenda is concerned. c.) there are two distinctly different America's now. Those who blindly acquiesce to anything the government says and those who remain cautiously skeptical of a overtly politicized pandemic.
 
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Online classes is my breaking point. I'm not in favor of masks at school necessarily, but I also don't really care about them either. Just not a big deal to me. However, after seeing virtual school for the better part of last year with my son, I never want him to go back to that again. It just doesn't work IMO.
I agree to the point that there is a massive outbreak at a school or county effecting enough adult teachers, staff, admins, bus drivers and/or cafeteria workers that the school can no longer function properly. At that point, it may require a temporary remote learning pause till it dies down.
 
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I agree to the point that there is a massive outbreak at a school or county effecting enough adult teachers, staff, admins, bus drivers and/or cafeteria workers that the school can no longer function properly. At that point, it may require a temporary remote learning pause till it dies down.

Exactly. Treat it like the flu. If you've got a big enough outbreak, do remote learning for two weeks. Let everybody get better and come back.

If this delta variant is as contagious as we think, there will be a LOT of kids who get it and never have a symptom. If the teachers are vaccinated you can probably plow through it.

Gottlieb thinks we may have 10 more actual cases right now every day than positive tests. Put that in a school and you probably see huge amounts of infections with no symptoms. That's what we are seeing in society right now. If that's true then for the last two weeks in america we have averaged around 700,000 cases per day. Multiply that by 30 and boom... that's like another 20,000,000 vaccinations that we didn't already have.

We'll be at herd immunity. That's what has probably happened in England in their surge.
 
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Herd immunity is the only way this is contained. CDC just issued a statement saying that vaccines may be less effective than initially thought and possibly totally ineffective against future variants. A dog chasing its tail comes to mind.

Address the population at greatest risk...elderly and those with comorbidity issues but, work toward herd immunity for the rest of the population.
 

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First of all it is as strong. Second of all you must not watch the news. Medical experts have said recently those who were infected months ago have no immunity to the current strand.
This is interesting and not what I have heard. Can you provide a link? Emory just published a study that suggests antibody resistance is greater than originally thought, so you news story is one I would like to see. Thanks.
 
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Because the Union which represents the teachers publicly stated this.

There wasn't any pushback within the teacher ranks to say "Hey, you're not speaking for me."

If I see a conservative teacher on television, it will be my first.

What other conclusion is someone to make other than conservative teachers must be in such a minority that their opinion/votes are negligible.

Creed, I get it. My wife teaches in very conservative district. But, when the pension talk was at the forefront, the message from the board office on down was that Bevin was going to eliminate their pension. No grandfathering. No graduated scale down to new hires. She had been convinced that she would have zero dollars for retirement. She heard this from people that she respected. Those peoples opinions now have an asterisk beside them because of the last 18 months so there's that.
Oh but there was. A bunch of teachers left KEA just because of this, in my wife’s district alone. Most joined KAPE, who offers liability coverage and is non politically affiliated. You just didn’t hear about it because the news doesn’t want to cover it and because conservative teachers are less likely to run to social media and throw fits unlike their liberal counterparts. KEA isn’t a “Union” anyways, it’s a group of lobbyist who offer liability insurance. Teachers in KY have no bargaining rights except for teachers in Jefferson County who are part of the JCTA, the only actual Union in KY.
 
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No you can’t. If you have a classroom of 30 students unmasked and one comes down with Covid the ENTIRE class would be quarantined. School can’t stay open without masks the way quarantined work.
That’s not how it works at all. Only students who have been within 3 feet for more than 15 minutes have to quarantine. Thats why seating charts exist. I have family in TN who went to school all year last year. Never masked at their seats or lunch table. School stayed open all year. No large outbreaks. Class sizes were 20-35 depending on grade level cap.
 
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Not true. It varied school to school , county to county. Some do contact tracing so the only kids who quarantine are those that were within 6 feet for more than 15 min of infected kid. Other schools quarantined entire class. In Fayette County it was Wild West, each school did their own thing.
It actually changed to 3 feet at the end of the school year.
 
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Wife teaches kindergarten. It took her 1 day to get her kids to wear masks. Her room had its own bathroom so hand washing was easy. She had zero problems. You people underestimate kids.
And those poor kids trying to learn phonemic awareness and blend pronunciation without being able to see your wife’s face & mouth. I feel bad for them.
 

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And those poor kids trying to learn phonemic awareness and blend pronunciation without being able to see your wife’s face & mouth. I feel bad for them.
Even harder for autistic children or those with learning deficiencies. It's all so needless. Children survive this virus at a far greater rate than even healthy adults with no issues. Children are being used as pawns by politicians, teachers unions and the media to continue a cycle of paranoia and fear. It's shameful.
 

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It’s the rules. I’m not sure if masks are effective and you have no idea if they aren’t. I don’t like them. I’ll do it to keep people safe in case they do work.
No woman that has sucked my penis has come down with covid. Now Im not saying that sucking my penis is effective in preventing covid but you should suck it in case it does work.
 

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It’s the rules. I’m not sure if masks are effective and you have no idea if they aren’t. I don’t like them. I’ll do it to keep people safe in case they do work.
They’re not rules they’re “recommendations” from the CDC. The CDC is not a governing body. The CDC recommends wearing a condom during a BJ, the CDC recommends not sharing drinks with others.
 

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That’s not how it works at all. Only students who have been within 3 feet for more than 15 minutes have to quarantine. Thats why seating charts exist. I have family in TN who went to school all year last year. Never masked at their seats or lunch table. School stayed open all year. No large outbreaks. Class sizes were 20-35 depending on grade level cap.
This isn't accurate. CDC's guidance was three feet WITH masking in schools and if someone was within those three feet and masked near someone with COVID they'd have to quarantine. So the school you reference that wasn't using masks wasn't following CDC guidance.
 
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This isn't accurate. CDC's guidance was three feet WITH masking in schools and if someone was within those three feet and masked near someone with COVID they'd have to quarantine. So the school you reference that wasn't using masks wasn't following CDC guidance.
“For schools that use less than 6 feet between students in classrooms, the definition of close contacts should not change. Students sitting less than 6 feet next to another student or person diagnosed with COVID-19 for a total of 15 minutes or more should quarantine at home and be referred for testing”

From https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/operation-strategy.html