Best chance ever to beat Miami?

RUich

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0-11 is not a great stat. But, the respective teams that played against each other then had, I believe, a significant disparity in quality. Miami was a national power most of the time while we were still scrambling to be in the middle of the BE.
 

megadrone

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0-11 is not a great stat. But, the respective teams that played against each other then had, I believe, a significant disparity in quality. Miami was a national power most of the time while we were still scrambling to be in the middle of the BE.
Middle of the pack until 1996. Then just struggling to be better than Temple from what I recall.
 
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MGSA99

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0-11 is not a great stat. But, the respective teams that played against each other then had, I believe, a significant disparity in quality. Miami was a national power most of the time while we were still scrambling to be in the middle of the BE.
0-11 with only one of those games still being in doubt in the 4th quarter. Most were over at the half.
 
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LeapinLou

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You spelled out the history. As for the near term future, their recruiting class is ranked 4th by Rivals so they could be a top 10 program soon.

Without question, this is our best chance to beat them.
 

Kbee3

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I vaguely recall a game vs. Miami quite a few years ago in Piscataway, where RU had the Miami quarterback (I think it was Ken Dorsey) rattled and had a nice lead early in the 2nd half.
Poof....just like that MIami came alive and buried Rutgers in the 4th quarter. I think they even ended up covering the spread.
One of many torturous moments for Rutgers fans everywhere.
 

RUTGERS95

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We really shouldn’t. Most experts predict a pretty close game
well we know about the 'experts' lol

but my view is simply that we should be able to run on them effectively and they should not be able to run on us. If we don't beat them by 14, it's an issue with the top. Gav really shouldn't hurt us in this game. I watched most of Miami's games the past few days, I feel pretty good

Miami has lost a lot of depth plus starting qb. the depleted secondary is huge for us
 
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RU-Kidding

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I vaguely recall a game vs. Miami quite a few years ago in Piscataway, where RU had the Miami quarterback (I think it was Ken Dorsey) rattled and had a nice lead early in the 2nd half.
Poof....just like that MIami came alive and buried Rutgers in the 4th quarter. I think they even ended up covering the spread.
One of many torturous moments for Rutgers fans everywhere.
Kbee you are right on... Per the APP in 2002- "a one-win Rutgers team was leading the defending national champions and top-ranked team in the nation, 17-14, with 14 minutes remaining in what could have been the unlikeliest college football upset of all-time." "Of the 22 offensive and defensive starters for Miami in that game, 19 played in the NFL and 17 became NFL Draft picks, including 10 first-rounders."

At the end of the 1st half, a 100 yard pick 6 by Rutgers Nate Jones off Ken Dorsey was nullified by a phantom pass interference call. Miami scored on the next play...
 

LotusAggressor_rivals

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I vaguely recall a game vs. Miami quite a few years ago in Piscataway, where RU had the Miami quarterback (I think it was Ken Dorsey) rattled and had a nice lead early in the 2nd half.
Poof....just like that MIami came alive and buried Rutgers in the 4th quarter. I think they even ended up covering the spread.
One of many torturous moments for Rutgers fans everywhere.
I remember that one.
 

MADHAT1

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It’s a very winnable game.
Only if we RU Fans focus on winning
If we don't , an ill wind will blow us away

This message is being posted in honor of Tony Soprano whose name has been mentioned recently .
A legend when one thinks of posters receiving this
 
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RUTGERS95

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Kbee you are right on... Per the APP in 2002- "a one-win Rutgers team was leading the defending national champions and top-ranked team in the nation, 17-14, with 14 minutes remaining in what could have been the unlikeliest college football upset of all-time." "Of the 22 offensive and defensive starters for Miami in that game, 19 played in the NFL and 17 became NFL Draft picks, including 10 first-rounders."

At the end of the 1st half, a 100 yard pick 6 by Rutgers Nate Jones off Ken Dorsey was nullified by a phantom pass interference call. Miami scored on the next play...
phantom is right!!!!!! he never even touched him
 

Kbee3

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I remember that one.
I was at that game.
Heartbreaking. Unfortunately all too common for long-time Rutgers fans.
It was a phantom call on Jones pick six. I was with some friends who weren't Rutgers fans, but they all agreed that it was a bogus penalty call. And we had end zone seats that gave us a great view of the play...right in front of us.
 
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RUTGERS95

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me too we yelled so many things at the ref he told us to cool or the bench gets a warning lol
I was at that game.
Heartbreaking. Unfortunately all too common for long-time Rutgers fans.
It was a phantom call on Jones pick six. I was with some friends who weren't Rutgers fans, but they all agreed that it was a bogus penalty call. And we had end zone seats that gave us a great view of the play...right in front of us.
 

RUforlife

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No excuses, a loss equals yet another losing season and 5 out of his last 6 for Schiano going back to Schiano 1.0.
 

Zimm80

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I'll play....how is he the big reason we rushed for 2k this season.
Because we run an outdated ground & pound offense & can’t throw the ball , it’s highly probable GS plays Knute Rockne speeches before coming out of the tunnel .
 

Rhuarc

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I just watched parts of this game. There's not even a good camera angle of any part of the play so it's impossible to see what happened. From the actual interception and everybody's positioning I don't see how a holding call could have been made unless it was very early in the play.
 

Mikemarc

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well we know about the 'experts' lol

but my view is simply that we should be able to run on them effectively and they should not be able to run on us. If we don't beat them by 14, it's an issue with the top. Gav really shouldn't hurt us in this game. I watched most of Miami's games the past few days, I feel pretty good

Miami has lost a lot of depth plus starting qb. the depleted secondary is huge for us

love the optimism…I guess I’ve been pretty vocal that I do believe there’s an issue at the top..and me expecting us to be beat anyone by 14 isn’t happening…lol

their fans probably watch our film and feel pretty good too..it’s two mediocre teams going against each other. I do think Miami has a slight edge though.

Greg IS a successful bowl coach, so that could also give us an advantage. I just don’t think a 6-6 team with 4 wins coming over two interim coaches, a fired coach, a division 3 team…Should be expected to beat any P5 team by 14. I hope you’re right lol
 
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MADHAT1

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love the optimism…I guess I’ve been pretty vocal that I do believe there’s an issue at the top..and me expecting us to be beat anyone by 14 isn’t happening…lol

their fans probably watch our film and feel pretty good too..it’s two mediocre teams going against each other. I do think Miami has a slight edge though.

Greg IS a successful bowl coach, so that could also give us an advantage. I just don’t think a 6-6 team with 4 wins coming over two interim coaches, a fired coach, a division 3 team…Should be expected to beat any P5 team by 14. I hope you’re right lol
Did you think Schiano was good enough of a HC to coach RU into a bowl game this year.
One of those interim coaches won the B1G COY and was made permanent.
Seems like you think he's not good enough, but agree the way he coaches winning by 14 shouldn't be expected.
Winning is what's needed and Greg seems to excel in having RU win the bowl games they play.

Two years ago RU lost when playing in the Gator bowl, lets hope Rutgers beats Miami in the Pinstripe to make a 1-1 Bowl game record for the 4 years of the G2 era.
RU did have 6 losses in 2023, all the winners are going bowling.
3 of the loses were to teams in the top 10 a 4th loss was to the #17 in Coach's poll.

Rutgers did beat two P-5 programs ( one fired their HC, the other is going to the Military Bowl) by over 14 points beating the bowl game participant 35-16 and the other ( no bowl) win was over the team that fired their HC by a 31-14.score.
So can't say RU isn't capable of winning by 2 TDs, just say 14 point win shouldn't be expected.
 

RUforlife

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Did you think Schiano was good enough of a HC to coach RU into a bowl game this year.
One of those interim coaches won the B1G COY and was made permanent.
Seems like you think he's not good enough, but agree the way he coaches winning by 14 shouldn't be expected.
Winning is what's needed and Greg seems to excel in having RU win the bowl games they play.

Two years ago RU lost when playing in the Gator bowl, lets hope Rutgers beats Miami in the Pinstripe to make a 1-1 Bowl game record for the 4 years of the G2 era.
RU did have 6 losses in 2023, all the winners are going bowling.
3 of the loses were to teams in the top 10 a 4th loss was to the #17 in Coach's poll.

Rutgers did beat two P-5 programs ( one fired their HC, the other is going to the Military Bowl) by over 14 points beating the bowl game participant 35-16 and the other ( no bowl) win was over the team that fired their HC by a 31-14.score.
So can't say RU isn't capable of winning by 2 TDs, just say 14 point win shouldn't be expected.
Those Temple and Wagner games were classics. A job well done.
 

RUTGERS95

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love the optimism…I guess I’ve been pretty vocal that I do believe there’s an issue at the top..and me expecting us to be beat anyone by 14 isn’t happening…lol

their fans probably watch our film and feel pretty good too..it’s two mediocre teams going against each other. I do think Miami has a slight edge though.

Greg IS a successful bowl coach, so that could also give us an advantage. I just don’t think a 6-6 team with 4 wins coming over two interim coaches, a fired coach, a division 3 team…Should be expected to beat any P5 team by 14. I hope you’re right lol
look, my disdain for Greg and Gav is not unknown lol I think we win for the reasons I cited, I really do. If we lose this game, it's going to be because we needed Gav to throw well and Greg didn't make the change. Greg never wants to lose a bowl game, it's personal with him so I believe he'll do what is ncessary to win.
 

Shelby65

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We really shouldn’t. Most experts predict a pretty close game
Our dynamic Schiano offense can’t score more than 17 against .500 or better teams. Doubt he can do it against a depleted bowl team, so it will be a close game. Plus, Miami returns punts.

24-17 Canes.
 
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Mikemarc

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Did you think Schiano was good enough of a HC to coach RU into a bowl game this year.
One of those interim coaches won the B1G COY and was made permanent.
Seems like you think he's not good enough, but agree the way he coaches winning by 14 shouldn't be expected.
Winning is what's needed and Greg seems to excel in having RU win the bowl games they play.

Two years ago RU lost when playing in the Gator bowl, lets hope Rutgers beats Miami in the Pinstripe to make a 1-1 Bowl game record for the 4 years of the G2 era.
RU did have 6 losses in 2023, all the winners are going bowling.
3 of the loses were to teams in the top 10 a 4th loss was to the #17 in Coach's poll.

Rutgers did beat two P-5 programs ( one fired their HC, the other is going to the Military Bowl) by over 14 points beating the bowl game participant 35-16 and the other ( no bowl) win was over the team that fired their HC by a 31-14.score.
So can't say RU isn't capable of winning by 2 TDs, just say 14 point win shouldn't be expected.

He obviously was good enough to coach us into a bowl game. So to answer your first question, yes, of course.

Totally agree. Gregs strength is game planning..and you give him 3 weeks to game plan that’s a great thing.

He’s certainly capable of winning by 14..but I don’t think what I’ve seen this season that should be “expected”..

I’ve never said RU isn’t capable of winning by 14..I just don’t think that should be expected. If we do win by 2 TDs or more I’ll be ecstatic
 

Mikemarc

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Our dynamic Schiano offense can’t score more than 17 against .500 or better teams. Doubt he can do it against a depleted team, so it will be a close game. Plus, Miami returns punts.

24-17 Canes.

As I’ve said above..I think Greg’s biggest strength is game planning..and giving him 3 weeks to game plan for Miami is huge. I do hope we come out strong.

I think Greg’s weakness is adjusting when the other team adjusts from the norm…so we’ll see how it plays out.

RU and Greg are plenty capable of winning easily..especially with lots of hurricanes opting out
 

Mikemarc

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look, my disdain for Greg and Gav is not unknown lol I think we win for the reasons I cited, I really do. If we lose this game, it's going to be because we needed Gav to throw well and Greg didn't make the change. Greg never wants to lose a bowl game, it's personal with him so I believe he'll do what is ncessary to win.

Again, certainly hope you’re right.
 
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