What house did Brands build?
Beth
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I would imagine his confidence comes from his potential stable of assistants and that he would be a CEO type but even his ability to be in the room consistently is iffy due to him being immunocompromised for life.
Iowa will maybe win one match against PSU. Ditto for ISU.. I guess a big deal to lose to ISU but it certainly is not because ISU has gotten better... The Iowa program has come back to ISU's level. That is disturbing.
Both Desanto and Eierman came in and beat their Penn St counterparts then after working with Brands long enough....they no longer could. Although not transfers same could be said about Kem and Big Tony. My point is...it's getting easy to coach other elites vs Iowa guys. Why is that? Genuinely asking? Is the Iowa style under Brands easy to match plan against?
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That’s a strawman. They were proven to have better results at Iowa than their prior schools.
I think TnT's wheelhouse is maximizing the potential of wrestlers similar to them: relentless grinders, with toughness off the charts. Guys like Cory Clark and Derek St John. Those guys are the exception
I think the biggest issue is recruiting. I don’t think they are great at evaluating talent. How many recruits(not transfers) have they brought in and won national championships in the last 10 yrs.
I agree with that. So knowing that...why dont they bring in other coaches who are strong in what they are not?
Does anyone think scrambling is good the last few years under the current staff structure?
You personally know her and have talked with her on this issue?
It took Smith a LONNNNNGGGGG time to realize it was time to go and he had basically run OSU into the ground.
Since our last title we've been in a slow decline...so slow that many don't realize it's happening. But it is happening and we're going to wake up one day and wonder WTF happened and why we're competing for 5-8th place in March instead of top 3.
Aren’t they placing a cap on NIL amounts? I thought the season of the sugar daddy was winding down.
Careful. Corby said we’ll rue the day TnT retire because they’re fixing to move third base further from home plate.
What have either done to deserve an offer they can't refuse. Neither have the name cache or coaching background that DT had.
Hiring the guy behind the Askren Academy would have some benefits. But the guy has always hated Iowa.
Honesty, I don't know who the heck would be a good candidate. But I know we don't have a guy in the pipeline on our staff and probably not in the HWC. It's gonna have to be an outside candidate, and the best one in years is at one of our rivals.
The top 5 p4p recruits typically are not of the Brands mold and thus aren't interested in Iowa. Perry might be the last wrestler that figured out a nemesis under Brands. That kind of stat is telling to recruits. If I were an opposing coach that's one I'd hammer home.
Yes they do. JB is a bigger star than DT and Dake is just as big. Both have been college assistants too which DT never was before getting a HC job.
JB is a star and had more international success but I'd argue that Magic Man is a bigger star in the wrestling world than either JB or Dake. DT ran one of the best Academies in the country, just like Askren. IMO that's just as good, or better than being an assistant coach.
And not all superstars are great coaches. I'll stand on my statement that neither JB nor Dake are 'give them an offer they can't refuse' guys.
I’ve been under the impression that TnT don’t really go after top talent that doesn’t seem to exhibit their idea of desired characteristics on and off the mat.
Are we even a top five program this year?!? Penn State, Ohio State, Nebraska, Oklahoma State, Iowa State. Do we even have chance in these duals?!? I know we beat OK St in Oklahoma but I wouldn’t bet against them at home in Stillwater at the end of the season.
But if NIL Go is putting a cap on deals why would a big donor matter as much anymore?
Maybe tom should say that to the team then ask them what their excuse is for stalling so much
100. this has been the issue since 2010. They are way behind PSU and now OSU in recruiting. Its been below standard for 15 years outside of the Spencer Lee 2 year window. which resulted in a title. its not complicated. They are not good at recruiting. I dont even understand how its debatable at this point. Look at recruiting news.
I disagree. Both are very well known, they've won at every level, they've helped develop young talent, and most importantly both are very intelligent and great communicators. Does that automatically mean either will be a great head coach? Not necessarily but it sure checks a lot of boxes. I've been a fan for over 30 years now and Tom was absolutely the right hire at the time. He's had a really good run and been great for the program. But it's time for some new blood.
What have either done to deserve an offer they can't refuse. Neither have the name cache or coaching background that DT had.
We could still finish anywhere between 2nd to 8th, imho. Still pretty early and i dont think there is a ton of separation between the teams you mentioned after psu. Which teams improve the most, stay healthy, peak at the right time and which teams peak in january/february, get banged up, have tough draws, etc.
Does DT, without huge $$$ from Richison, get the recruits at Iowa that he got at OSU?? And I say that with great respect on what Bob does for the program, but Richison is a billionaire.
All of them? Not sure. Most of them? Yeah, I do think so. Having the big donor obviously helps a ton, but DT also has the name and the popularity. Now he’s got to capitalize on that and win something in the next few years, but I really think he gets it done. At the very least, I feel like he’ll be way more competitive with PSU than Iowa will be over the next 2–4 years.
Also, I said it earlier, but if Bob stops donating to the program once Tom is gone, he's not a fan of Iowa wrestling. He's a fan of Tom Brands.
Both brought elite scrambling, riding and turning with them. Because you dont acquire that x factor once on campus. If it was taught then Ramos, Desanto, Gilman and Ayala would all have 2 titles each. Yet in every elite head to head PSU seems way more savvy and comfortable in the uncomfortable. That's not an accident.
What resources does Iowa football have compared to top 20 football programs? Now do the same with Iowa wrestling. Your reasoning is not even close.
Two things. 1) I think if you are not achieving your goals (like Iowa wrestling) and you don’t make a coaching change because you might do worse with the next coach, you are accepting mediocrity. We need to swing for the fence.
2). Although nice guys, Tom’s assistant coaches are not top tier D1 assistant coaches. That is on Tom and no one else. Frankly, I think Tom is too loyal. This is a big business and you can’t run it like a mom and pop store.
2). Although nice guys, Tom’s assistant coaches are not top tier D1 assistant coaches. That is on Tom and no one else. Frankly, I think Tom is too loyal. This is a big business and you can’t run it like a mom and pop store.
If you get rid of Ferentz, fans will be begging for his 'mediocrity' in 3 years. If you get rid of Brands', I think that's the same.
Hawks got beat today, for the first time in 20 years by their rival. Get off the ledge, it's going to be OK.
Some of you need to breathe......
Hawks got beat today, for the first time in 20 years by their rival. Get off the ledge, it's going to be OK.
Some of you need to breathe......
There's two he wouldn't have gotten because the Raney's were going to Iowa until a big late offer.
DeLuca, Ludington and both their fathers are 100% all in with Tom and Terry; they were a huge reason they went there (especially DeLuca). They just hauled in 5 very good recruits for the 27 class, and have a great headstart on the 28 class with two more.
26 was a big disappointment losing Bo and thereby Melvin along with the Raney's but they were in on all those kids to the point that they had all four.