Alabama is good. real good. We broke down in the middle of the game because of some stupid stuff. Then it was all guts to come back. Dolinski is a keeper and Petrovic needs to keep learning. Williams is also a potential key piece. If Coleman was able to go, we could have stepped up to their size, but it still would have been tough. We are better than I thought.
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Saw a lot to build on as well.
Dolinski and Williams gave a lot of hope inside. Both played tough and were impressive. Parker and Fisher were tough as nails.
Need to see less of Jones.
Dolinski and Williams gave a lot of hope inside. Both played tough and were impressive. Parker and Fisher were tough as nails.
Need to see less of Jones.
I’m not sure if Dolinski has any back to the basket game but he sure can finish around the hoop and seems to be in the right position on offense. He looked like a starter tonite.
Who had us making the same amount of 3’s as Bama?
In the disaster season of 24-25, some forget that we actually beat VCU in the OOC. A VCU team that went on to win lots of games, the A-10 and advance to the NCAA tourney. I remember that game Tubek scored something like 9-12 points off like 3-3 or 4-4 three point shooting. Watching Dolinski tonight, I wondered if this is going to be one of those games or will it have a lasting effect during the rest of the season TBD.
Positive is we fought back when it looked like it might go sideways and if you bet on us, as I did first half and game, we covered both.
Tough to figure out what this team is right now. I’m still not sure. Us not getting our doors blown off gives me hope, and then I saw that Fordham beat LIU by 20 something tonight, so there’s that.
A few more? They would have had to make all 38 to win by 15!
And if we made 3 more 3s, we win. If they didnt shoot twice as many fts, we win. But none of that happened.
Exactly. I keep thinking it natural that if a SH fan comes up with some could have beens they pick things that would help SHU. Wrong again.
Last night was encouraging for both the start and the comeback. I was nervous that we were going to be run off of the court. The team showed grit and determination especially with many members under the weather. Hopefully, Copeland will be back and we can carry this effort against Wisconsin down the road
This was a very good performance.
We.were roughly 16 point underdogs
Without our Center
With no production from our guards other than Parker
On the road to a top 20 SEC team
A ton to take out of this performance.
We turned them over a ton.
We outrebounded them in 2nd half.
We got a really bad whistle
Early season sub patterns as Sha is trying to figure out combos led to two decisive runs.
Jones cannot continue to play this poorly.
Parker played strong
Parker and Petro play well together
We have options at the bigs which we were all worried about after the first two games
Many players including our leading scorer were apparently illamnd gutted it out.
Petro is very good in pick and roll
WIlliams and Dolinski look good in those sets as well. That can be a real weapon this season.
A lot to take away from this game.
We.were roughly 16 point underdogs
Without our Center
With no production from our guards other than Parker
On the road to a top 20 SEC team
A ton to take out of this performance.
We turned them over a ton.
We outrebounded them in 2nd half.
We got a really bad whistle
Early season sub patterns as Sha is trying to figure out combos led to two decisive runs.
Jones cannot continue to play this poorly.
Parker played strong
Parker and Petro play well together
We have options at the bigs which we were all worried about after the first two games
Many players including our leading scorer were apparently illamnd gutted it out.
Petro is very good in pick and roll
WIlliams and Dolinski look good in those sets as well. That can be a real weapon this season.
A lot to take away from this game.
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i just don't understand what sha is thinking. first petrovic now dolinski. it's clear these guys should play so why did he have them benched to start the season?
November is a crazy time in college basketball with the era we're living in. Teams are figuring things out. It's a small sample size even for KenPom to be our guide.
But Dolinski just went in there against the 6th biggest team in the country and hand a day. Alabama is crazy athletic and with depth and run you ragged with their style. Very impressive.
Why the guy only played 7 minutes total in the first 2 games (albeit with 6 points scored even in that), IDK. This is the first I've seen him have extended play and he definitely can give us something up front as a rotational piece. Pretty smooth and crafty around the rim.
But Dolinski just went in there against the 6th biggest team in the country and hand a day. Alabama is crazy athletic and with depth and run you ragged with their style. Very impressive.
Why the guy only played 7 minutes total in the first 2 games (albeit with 6 points scored even in that), IDK. This is the first I've seen him have extended play and he definitely can give us something up front as a rotational piece. Pretty smooth and crafty around the rim.
Sha stacks his teams with redundancy for depth. We basically have a bunch of average players; no alphas. Wilcher is not yet, unfortunately. That can take some time to sort out. The rotations are still a mess, IMO.
Time to start Dolinski at the 4. Move Fischer to the 3 where he belongs and put 2.0 on the bench.
it is absolutely not time to start dolinski lol. come on
Agree on all. The game is 77-74 with :57 to play and should've been our ball on a turnover too. This was a game to be encouraged by because you saw some potential and against a legit high level opponent to gauge.
The tenacious pressure defense bothered Alabama, an offensive machine. They are bigger and more athletic than us and it showed in the foul discrepancy. That decisive 16-0 run to end the half was because we couldn't play one of the bigs, per Sha.
If someone had said we would not have Copeland and the combination of Wilcher and Anderson - your two experienced veteran power conference tested guards - would go 3/15 and 0/8 from 3 (!!!) yet we'd be down 3 with a minute to play on the road against Alabama, you'd be impressed. I think we saw hope.
We have a "flu game" every year it seems.
It can’t be much worse than what we’re doing.. it’s more to put Fischer in a better spot and to put Wilcher on the bench. Cant have starters giving you nothing.
Why cant dev start at the 4 and move fish to the 3 so we arent sooo small
Del has shown nothing. Not 1 thing. Move trey up on the depth chart. He played well first half and was taken out. Del played way too much 2nd half. Im sure sha is trying to give him confidence.
Maybe he knows what he has in them and wanted to see what he could get out of other players
It IS the start of the season.
Also, Sha tells the truth if you listen
Petrovic was hurt. He did not participate in the September practice. Sha told the press that was the situation.
Dolinski got to campus late.
Sha said he and Theo were tired amd having trouble adjusting to the time change and his practices. Sha told the press thst as well.
Sha does not do coach speak for better or worse.
NOW, I was at September event and posted Dolinski would not appear to be a contributor. Glad I was wrong.
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I think Wilcher will have a very long runway with Sha. Whether that is deserved will be seen, but I think it is a fact. Sha believes in Wilcher like he believed in Dawes it seems. And as long as Wilcher plays defense he wil get 25 mpg.
He had a few go in and out in the second half, and Sha was running game some 1-4 sets to try to get him going.
He did have a great find to Parker for a big 3 off the secondary fast break which was encouraging.
He's the one that could play the 4, but Sha is concerned about the depth at center because Kabba is a bust right now.
If Dolinski can emerge, that's an option that frees up Williams.
As he should, IMO. He has the most talent and big time experience of all the guards and wings. It shows. But he's not assertive offensively and acts like a role player. He needs to be setup better. He's also an excellent defender.
I agree. But it shouldn’t happen. It’s clear Wilcher has zero offensive game. Can’t even reliably hit jumpers. You just can’t have starters like that. I dare say 1.0 was better than him. Oof
And that was after we had already revealed ourselves in losing to Fordham + Hofstra, LOL.
Agreed there's always the "fluke factor" for sure and you don't know until you know, but I do think in watching Dolinski play against a power roster like that you saw some repeatable elements. We'll see. Not having Copeland there opened PT, maybe we learned something.
The David Tubek Game as Gary Cohen coined it was really the 3/3 3PT shooting in a close game as he didn't do much else. Dolinski was 6/7 from the floor, LOL, but how he was setup and moved was encouraging. Plus he had 5 rebounds in 16 minutes and was active all over.
And if Wilcher and Anderson don't go 0-for from 3, maybe we win.
It was a touch whistle a lot but I didn’t think it was crazy. But the below was by far the worse and egregious.
I know there are no moral victories but as usual Seton Hall left everything on the floor.After the 16 0 run I toyed with the idea of going to bed .Undermanned,sick,missing the center against a high volume scoring machine in a hostile environment.However ,the annual patched up team did honor to their fans by crawling back to three with time to go. Somehow Sha was able to coach them with their hustle and grit to almost pull off a miracle.I am duly encouraged by last night's performance.
I'm down on Del too, but he did grab the D Rebound and made the assist to Trey to cut the lead to 3 with under a min left.
This is a no brainer. Dolinski and Willaims need to be on the floor together!!!!!!! Why did that not happen against Alalbama? Going forward I want Dolinski to start at forward!!!!!
Actually we have a very good point guard. The problem is when guys get the pass from him they can't make a basket! Same problem as last year! We missed a lot of layups and short shots!
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