Big10 bent Nebraska over and spanked them....

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Ok, in summary (& absence of any insult), mofo will handicap the expansion of b12.

In the "Hell Freezing Over" Metrics;
(-----Not the Miami, VA Tech,
Pittsburgh, to ACC -- contrived Metrics).
Let's try this.



1) Nebraska leaves b10 and joining b12 -
Hell Freeze Over - give Nebraska a 3
out of 10 - meaning no way.

3 grade - gives some wackos hope.



2) Southern California entertaining leaves Pac12 and joining b12.
Hell Freezing Over- give Southern Calif a minus

--44 grade out of 10, to join b12.
Like-" No Fuking Way" USC leaves Pac12

"No Fuking way" - USC leaves Pac12.



3) b12 expansion- in next 5 years.
Hell Freezing Over category-
Give that a "1", out of 10,
not probable.


? How do you give, a 1 grade when
Nebraska gets a 3? - in the wackos category,
it gives Stange hope.


Since "wacko" is a generic term,
insuts were not exchanged .
 
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The B10 doesnt even play football anymore.
Overreact much? You haven't even figured out yet that lefties will shame the other Power 5 conferences into canceling some or all of their seasons, sooner or later. The Dominoes are still falling, and no conference will be spared in the "Cancel Culture" that pervades today.
 

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Overreact much? You haven't even figured out yet that lefties will shame the other Power 5 conferences into canceling some or all of their seasons, sooner or later. The Dominoes are still falling, and no conference will be spared in the "Cancel Culture" that pervades today.

All it will take is 1 person. Indeed 1 person due to a football game to get Covid out of all the teams deciding to play. Liberals will then shut that **** down.
 

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Overreact much? You haven't even figured out yet that lefties will shame the other Power 5 conferences into canceling some or all of their seasons, sooner or later. The Dominoes are still falling, and no conference will be spared in the "Cancel Culture" that pervades today.

I agree.

I think blue state governors were pressuring universities to cancel.

We will see what happens. B12/Sec are mostly red.
 

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I have some questions:

Is the PAC 12 really that bad off financially? I have heard this for the past few years and the fact that COVID now comes into play, could this be the potential end for them?

Also, Nebraska has been just horrid since joining Big10. I just don’t see the allure of bringing them back to Big 12. Is it really that big of a pop in the TV markets for them to join?
 

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I have some questions:

Is the PAC 12 really that bad off financially? I have heard this for the past few years and the fact that COVID now comes into play, could this be the potential end for them?

Also, Nebraska has been just horrid since joining Big10. I just don’t see the allure of bringing them back to Big 12. Is it really that big of a pop in the TV markets for them to join?

Don't think you or anyone .
needs to worry about any of that.
 

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I have some questions:

Is the PAC 12 really that bad off financially? I have heard this for the past few years and the fact that COVID now comes into play, could this be the potential end for them?

Also, Nebraska has been just horrid since joining Big10. I just don’t see the allure of bringing them back to Big 12. Is it really that big of a pop in the TV markets for them to join?

I do not know about the PAC 12 financially except the left coast does not watch college football ..... unless USC is dominant.

As for Nebraska and how they’re playing, well you take them out of a TX based conference where they recruited well for years and now they’re on their 3rd coach in 6 years and it kind of explains it. Bo Pelini was a guy with a rugged loud abrasive attitude but the guy could win and did much better than Riley or Frost have. I think Nebraska fits in the B1G about as well as Colorado does in the PAC or WVU in the Big XII. I wouldn’t close the book on them staying in the B1G.

And Nebraska is not a major tv draw. They do have a fan base that can pretty much take over a lot away venues——see @ Notre Dame in 2000. Cornhuskers have a following. Plus it’s a good school which is why I’d bet they could join 2 other P5 conferences right now by simply asking.
 
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I have some questions:

Is the PAC 12 really that bad off financially? I have heard this for the past few years and the fact that COVID now comes into play, could this be the potential end for them?

Also, Nebraska has been just horrid since joining Big10. I just don’t see the allure of bringing them back to Big 12. Is it really that big of a pop in the TV markets for them to join?

Some truth here

USC it is more about who makes the decision.
USC is a different university now than it was 15-20 years ago in regards to student population.

But the older USC Family still remains and are the ones who support the football program.

They are the ones very vocal about something happening
 
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USC wants a super conference...
They will take the baby steps if they have to.

They are one of the schools who are arrogant enough because of where they are to think they can draw all the top players in the country.
Pete Carroll already had them almost there.

But things have changed.


To them football isn't a religion

This goes back to Nebraska.

Scott Frost was the savior. If they won a NC you would see people name their children Scott Frost Whatever

I like Nebraska. I have respect for them.
They will do anything to win in football. Even if it is throwing millions of dollars at their program .

Both them and Tennessee are very similar. They both have Top 5 facilities.


Nebraska is another school who is interested in possibly having a Super Conference...

Unlike USC I don't think Nebraska has to take baby steps
Because for the most part the B1G is providing for their needs except on the field.

Nebraska IMO has already been destroyed...
But their fanbase loves the sport enough to think they will one day be that school again
 

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USC wants a super conference...
They will take the baby steps if they have to.

They are one of the schools who are arrogant enough because of where they are to think they can draw all the top players in the country.
Pete Carroll already had them almost there.

But things have changed.


To them football isn't a religion

This goes back to Nebraska.

Scott Frost was the savior. If they won a NC you would see people name their children Scott Frost Whatever

I like Nebraska. I have respect for them.
They will do anything to win in football. Even if it is throwing millions of dollars at their program .

Both them and Tennessee are very similar. They both have Top 5 facilities.


Nebraska is another school who is interested in possibly having a Super Conference...

Unlike USC I don't think Nebraska has to take baby steps
Because for the most part the B1G is providing for their needs except on the field.

Nebraska IMO has already been destroyed...
But their fanbase loves the sport enough to think they will one day be that school again


Could be, but Nebraska's problems
do not effect b12,
due to b10 contract obligations.


B12 has zero reasons to expand.

B12 is not in the business of
"reclamation programs", and b12 didn't cause Nebraska's stupidity.

USC is more of a joke, "pie in the sky" discussion. USC impractical to Midwest b12.


Give us ,
b12 an legit reasoning (a real reason) to allow Nebraska return -- like guarantees over 10 years,
per member schools increased revenue --
not emotional ranting from
West Virginia msg boards.
 
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Could be, but Nebraska's problems
do not effect b12,
due to b10 contract obligations.


B12 has zero reasons to expand.

B12 is not in the business of
"reclamation programs", and b12 didn't cause Nebraska's stupidity.

USC is more of a joke, "pie in the sky" discussion. USC impractical to Midwest b12.

Geography no longer applies.

Anyone who thinks Geography is anywhere on the table is mistaken.

Big 12 isn't even a Midwest Conference. They have 3 schools who could be considered Midwest states by most.

Your geography isn't what people in the Western part of the country have.
Maybe to someone from the East Coast everything is the Midwest.

If you add USC and another school like Arizona State you have 12 schools for the moment
With 8 of them in the Southwest.


USC is going independent or joining another conference.

They aren't staying in the PAC 12. Doesn't work for them anymore.
 
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WV with Neal Brown has the proper mindset.

To use a term...WVU wants to be the Hardest Pit in the Litter

That is why he says Trust the Climb. He is talking about championships.
Because of this anything that helps WVU out is a plus.


Need $$$$
Better access to players
More big time matchups

If any school should provide this it would be USC.
USC should be #1.

Like I said their availability is well known

Their own AD said it. Said he is going to do whatever it takes to bring in the revenue that USC deserves


USC already has negotiated to get a similar deal like Texas has for their third tier rights.
 
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Geography no longer applies.

Anyone who thinks Geography is anywhere on the table is mistaken.

Big 12 isn't even a Midwest Conference. They have 3 schools who could be considered Midwest states by most.

Your geography isn't what people in the Western part of the country have.
Maybe to someone from the East Coast everything is the Midwest.

If you add USC and another school like Arizona State you have 12 schools for the moment
With 8 of them in the Southwest.


USC is going independent or joining another conference.

They aren't staying in the PAC 12. Doesn't work for them anymore.


Have you
flown to Los Angeles, lately -
LAX?

I went the Rose Bowl, a few years ago


Flying to Texas is one thing, regular 5 hour flights are not manageable, especially is a PANDEMIC.

Sorry
 
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Have you
flown to Los Angeles, lately -
LAX?

I went the Rose Bowl, a few years ago


Flying to Texas is one thing, regular 5 hour flights are not manageable, especially is a PANDEMIC.

Sorry

They dont fly commercial. They charter....LA to Austin might he under 3 hours.
 

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They dont fly commercial. They charter....LA to Austin might he under 3 hours.

Geez
Pipe dream...

Impractical business...

Bus Ride to Pittsburgh or Clarksburg and back....waiting another 1 each way.


Bad business dealing
with California unless WVU leaves b12...
Oh that's right,
no other conference offered WVU....

Doubtful Texas or Oklahoma cares
about a West Virginia msg board opinions.
 

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in the "Hell Freezing Over"
Metrics there is NO Fuking Way
Southern California to b12.


Believe what you wish
 

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Geez
Pipe dream...

Impractical business...

Bus Ride to Pittsburgh or Clarksburg and back....waiting another 1 each way.


Bad business dealing
with California unless WVU leaves b12...
Oh that's right,
no other conference offered WVU....

Doubtful Texas or Oklahoma cares
about a West Virginia msg board opinions.

I was commenting on your 5 hour flight assertion. There is a big difference between charter and commercial....

Not that I believe USC is ever going to B12.

They need to drive to clarksburg/pgh no matter who they play, so what difference does that make?

PGH to Austin is 3.5.
 
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" Liberals" will shut the whole thing down.

You mean people who understand science and fact rather than wacko conspiracies who live via opressing others.

Wonder how many players would need to contract covid, or even die before radical righties decide to shut it down?


If radical righties hadnt usurped the fact based addressing of the disease from the get go, and instead followed the intelligent practices that the thinking world and " liberals" followed, then football would be able to be played safely now.

Have to wonder from the comments of some radicals if the goal is to play football, or play politics? Why should players, or their families or friends, have their lives risked for your radical right wing politics?

They should not.
 

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" Liberals" will shut the whole thing down.

You mean people who understand science and fact rather than wacko conspiracies who live via opressing others.

Wonder how many players would need to contract covid, or even die before radical righties decide to shut it down?


If radical righties hadnt usurped the fact based addressing of the disease from the get go, and instead followed the intelligent practices that the thinking world and " liberals" followed, then football would be able to be played safely now.

Have to wonder from the comments of some radicals if the goal is to play football, or play politics? Why should players, or their families or friends, have their lives risked for your radical right wing politics?

They should not.

Careful JV/TVZ you'll give yourself away.

These players are not being forced to play. They have the option to opt out at anytime. There is no set number as yet for a crowd size. There has yet to be a game played.

Have to wonder if you have a Biden brain. You know, the kind that doesn't work properly.
 

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" Liberals" will shut the whole thing down.

You mean people who understand science and fact rather than wacko conspiracies who live via opressing others.

Wonder how many players would need to contract covid, or even die before radical righties decide to shut it down?


If radical righties hadnt usurped the fact based addressing of the disease from the get go, and instead followed the intelligent practices that the thinking world and " liberals" followed, then football would be able to be played safely now.

Have to wonder from the comments of some radicals if the goal is to play football, or play politics? Why should players, or their families or friends, have their lives risked for your radical right wing politics?

They should not.


But players and their families actually want to play...so obviously you aren't speaking on their behalf.

Besides, this was only about flattening the curve to prevent the hospitals from being overwhelmed. It was never suppose to be eradication of a virus...

Your political agenda is obvious.
 
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I was commenting on your 5 hour flight assertion. There is a big difference between charter and commercial....

Not that I believe USC is ever going to B12.

They need to drive to clarksburg/pgh no matter who they play, so what difference does that make?

PGH to Austin is 3.5.


Well,
Something to keep in mind,
WVU Went from $ 8 million in big east,
to like ~•$$ 50 million in b12, overall in football.


Fast fwd to today;
Any additional members to b12, would initially cause all b12 members to drop in revenue.

Expansion is
Not worth losing ~• $$10 million, per year per school because
this WVU msg board is having insecurity issues, Again.


Doubt Oklahoma or Texas
thinks much about WVU, opinions on this
 

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Don't know what (if) any conf changes coming. I would like to see Neb v Okla... Tx v Tx A&M... WVU v Pitt (and Md, PSU, VPI)...

... but I do know - I am happier now than in Big East - when their expansion idea was adding Villanova for football in a 12k seat soccer stadium.
 
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Have you
flown to Los Angeles, lately -
LAX?

I went the Rose Bowl, a few years ago


Flying to Texas is one thing, regular 5 hour flights are not manageable, especially is a PANDEMIC.

Sorry

LA has a multiple airports
Don't have to fly to LAX


When Texas played USC they had private plans from Southwest for a bunch of the fans.
Southwest always provides flights to Texas fans out of Austin


Check this out

 
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Well,
Something to keep in mind,
WVU Went from $ 8 million in big east,
to like ~•$$ 50 million in b12, overall in football.


Fast fwd to today;
Any additional members to b12, would initially cause all b12 members to drop in revenue.

Expansion is
Not worth losing ~• $$10 million, per year per school because
this WVU msg board is having insecurity issues, Again.


Doubt Oklahoma or Texas
thinks much about WVU, opinions on this


Zero truth here...

Matters who is added.

This is why there are only a few options on the table.

If you add schools who add more to the pot than they take.
USC doesn't bring in the same amount as let's say Memphis.

In 3-5 years we are going to see some changes. Could be much more than we saw last go around.


Going back to the title of this thread...

Nebraska fans really thought they were going to get the B1G to take Kansas.

Their wet dream was take Kansas and OU. But the people in the B1G DGAF about Nebraska. Definitely aren't going to allow KU to sit in one of their final seats.
 

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?You want truths,
you-all wish facts?


You all do not have enough Imagination. With a CAPs Iiiiii

B12 to expand to Hawai'i ....Waikiki

If we are going to piss money away,
better do it correctly..



.Hawaii only has games in Honolulu, Of course.
 
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If you want some good info

Pay attention to Scott Schrader.
His family has been around USC for about 50 years. His dad was good friends with John McKay and worked at the Long Beach Press Telegram
Schrader is connected to everyone around the program.
 

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I have some questions:

Is the PAC 12 really that bad off financially? I have heard this for the past few years and the fact that COVID now comes into play, could this be the potential end for them?

Also, Nebraska has been just horrid since joining Big10. I just don’t see the allure of bringing them back to Big 12. Is it really that big of a pop in the TV markets for them to join?

One small correction, Nebraska has been horrid since Bo Pelini was let go.

Was he an elite coach ? Of course not. But, he did win 8-9 games consistently with one division championship. I think Husker fans need to be more realistic as to what their program is and is not.

This isn't 1971 or even 1995 anymore. Johnny Rodgers isn't walking through that door.
 
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If he did it would be a totally different situation

He was arrested for armed robbery. Nebraska made it seem like it was a joke that he robbed a gas station

Back in the early 1970's things aren't like what they are now.
That would be a national story in 10 minutes.
 

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I disagree.

Texas/USC will end up in the same conference in the near future.
The relationship between the two universities has grown stronger the last 5 years.
What the conference ends up being is yet to be determined.

The PAC 12 has been very quiet but there is a major issues there.
Especially financially. The boosters who are becoming vocal about going to the Big 12 has increased.

One link, any link to support your theory. Newspaper? Blog? Podcast? School op ed? anything?
 
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One link, any link to support your theory. Newspaper? Blog? Podcast? School op ed? anything?

Conduct your research on it.
I am not here to tell people how to think.
I am not going to tell you what articles to read and ones not.

The USC AD came out and said all options are on the table.
With this you had multiple reports about the Big 12 with numerous schools in the PAC 12.

I can tell you first-hand knowledge that the only for sure school Texas is interested in would be USC.
 
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Think third tier rights in the second highest media market

This is where their reasoning is. But like I said the super conference idea is something that is their Ultimate goal.


You can start here

Ryan Abraham from their 247 site released this right around the time Mike Bohn their AD spoke.on the issue
https://www.google.com/amp/s/247spo...AC-12-television-contract-2024-144592787/Amp/




Since then you are seeing more people opened to the idea.
 

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" Liberals" will shut the whole thing down.

You mean people who understand science and fact rather than wacko conspiracies who live via opressing others.

Wonder how many players would need to contract covid, or even die before radical righties decide to shut it down?


If radical righties hadnt usurped the fact based addressing of the disease from the get go, and instead followed the intelligent practices that the thinking world and " liberals" followed, then football would be able to be played safely now.

Have to wonder from the comments of some radicals if the goal is to play football, or play politics? Why should players, or their families or friends, have their lives risked for your radical right wing politics?

They should not.

Wacko conspiracies? Like The Russia Hoax? Who's conspiracy was that? Shutting down travel from China was racist and misogynistic per Biden? Same with shutting down travel from Europe then Britton? Who was sending Senior COVID patients back to nursing homes?
Oh, please tell me more about radical right wing policies.
 

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Russia "hoax"--the only "hoax" there is your dear leader letting off all the traitorous crooks convicted for their part in covering up his own traitorous behavior. You don't have multiple convicted people from a "hoax" like, say the H. Clinton hoax where right wingers wasted tens of millions of tax payer money, investigating the same lies over and over and over just to finally come out after working with a foreign enemy to overthrow the American government to say once again they found nothing (and yet still some right wing nutjobs are still trying to spout that nonsense).

Crimes were committed and the radical right knows it well--that's why they had "grim reaper" corrupt McConnell BLOCK ALL EVIDENCE in the impeachment trial.

Shutting travel from China was a racist act. If you wanted to stop Covid, shutting down travel from a country that was getting the disease under control but allowing travel from Italy, where it was then raging (so much so they had to shut the country down completely). But did you nutjobs do that? NO, because allowing "European" people to travel to the USA was A-ok! Covid or no covid. Listening to doctors and scientists, getting people to lockdown at the beginning of the crisis, wear masks, social distance, wash frequently and contact tracing those that have the disease and who they exposed, plus getting companies to produce the technology needed by hospitals to treat the sick and keep healthworkers safe was what was actually needed. Not a racist act to lock down only 1 of the MANY countries that were facing the epidemic at the time.

Instead, rethuglicans across America have been blocking safety measures, lying about the disease and stopping any and all attempts to get the disease (which is not politics) under control. Clearly trying to infect and kill as many as possible. Forcing people to work while pushing against any and everything that would keep them safe there, forcing people to school while lying about kids being "immune" even as nearly 100,000 kids have been infected recently and some have died.

Its all rethuglican nonsense--pretend Trump didn't work with Russia to get elected--even his own people hired by him just said its happening AGAIN RIGHT NOW, pretend that covid is a "liberal hoax" when in actuality its a disease killing hundreds of thousands and infecting millions that would be all but over in the U.S. had there been leadership--but with rethuglicans there is no governance, just taking away from everyone to give to the wealthy and doing anything from selling out the country to creating civil war to prop themselves up.

Now, you are pretending you want football, when what you REALLY want is for everyone to pretend there is no disease so that your dear leader can pretend he and his party haven't failed massively and created the worst disaster in American history that will take years to recover from and has now altered America probably forever.
 

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Russia "hoax"--the only "hoax" there is your dear leader letting off all the traitorous crooks convicted for their part in covering up his own traitorous behavior. You don't have multiple convicted people from a "hoax" like, say the H. Clinton hoax where right wingers wasted tens of millions of tax payer money, investigating the same lies over and over and over just to finally come out after working with a foreign enemy to overthrow the American government to say once again they found nothing (and yet still some right wing nutjobs are still trying to spout that nonsense).

Crimes were committed and the radical right knows it well--that's why they had "grim reaper" corrupt McConnell BLOCK ALL EVIDENCE in the impeachment trial.

Shutting travel from China was a racist act. If you wanted to stop Covid, shutting down travel from a country that was getting the disease under control but allowing travel from Italy, where it was then raging (so much so they had to shut the country down completely). But did you nutjobs do that? NO, because allowing "European" people to travel to the USA was A-ok! Covid or no covid. Listening to doctors and scientists, getting people to lockdown at the beginning of the crisis, wear masks, social distance, wash frequently and contact tracing those that have the disease and who they exposed, plus getting companies to produce the technology needed by hospitals to treat the sick and keep healthworkers safe was what was actually needed. Not a racist act to lock down only 1 of the MANY countries that were facing the epidemic at the time.

Instead, rethuglicans across America have been blocking safety measures, lying about the disease and stopping any and all attempts to get the disease (which is not politics) under control. Clearly trying to infect and kill as many as possible. Forcing people to work while pushing against any and everything that would keep them safe there, forcing people to school while lying about kids being "immune" even as nearly 100,000 kids have been infected recently and some have died.

Its all rethuglican nonsense--pretend Trump didn't work with Russia to get elected--even his own people hired by him just said its happening AGAIN RIGHT NOW, pretend that covid is a "liberal hoax" when in actuality its a disease killing hundreds of thousands and infecting millions that would be all but over in the U.S. had there been leadership--but with rethuglicans there is no governance, just taking away from everyone to give to the wealthy and doing anything from selling out the country to creating civil war to prop themselves up.

Now, you are pretending you want football, when what you REALLY want is for everyone to pretend there is no disease so that your dear leader can pretend he and his party haven't failed massively and created the worst disaster in American history that will take years to recover from and has now altered America probably forever.

Perhaps the dumbest thing I have ever read.
 

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Russia "hoax"--the only "hoax" there is your dear leader letting off all the traitorous crooks convicted for their part in covering up his own traitorous behavior. You don't have multiple convicted people from a "hoax" like, say the H. Clinton hoax where right wingers wasted tens of millions of tax payer money, investigating the same lies over and over and over just to finally come out after working with a foreign enemy to overthrow the American government to say once again they found nothing (and yet still some right wing nutjobs are still trying to spout that nonsense).

Crimes were committed and the radical right knows it well--that's why they had "grim reaper" corrupt McConnell BLOCK ALL EVIDENCE in the impeachment trial.

Shutting travel from China was a racist act. If you wanted to stop Covid, shutting down travel from a country that was getting the disease under control but allowing travel from Italy, where it was then raging (so much so they had to shut the country down completely). But did you nutjobs do that? NO, because allowing "European" people to travel to the USA was A-ok! Covid or no covid. Listening to doctors and scientists, getting people to lockdown at the beginning of the crisis, wear masks, social distance, wash frequently and contact tracing those that have the disease and who they exposed, plus getting companies to produce the technology needed by hospitals to treat the sick and keep healthworkers safe was what was actually needed. Not a racist act to lock down only 1 of the MANY countries that were facing the epidemic at the time.

Instead, rethuglicans across America have been blocking safety measures, lying about the disease and stopping any and all attempts to get the disease (which is not politics) under control. Clearly trying to infect and kill as many as possible. Forcing people to work while pushing against any and everything that would keep them safe there, forcing people to school while lying about kids being "immune" even as nearly 100,000 kids have been infected recently and some have died.

Its all rethuglican nonsense--pretend Trump didn't work with Russia to get elected--even his own people hired by him just said its happening AGAIN RIGHT NOW, pretend that covid is a "liberal hoax" when in actuality its a disease killing hundreds of thousands and infecting millions that would be all but over in the U.S. had there been leadership--but with rethuglicans there is no governance, just taking away from everyone to give to the wealthy and doing anything from selling out the country to creating civil war to prop themselves up.

Now, you are pretending you want football, when what you REALLY want is for everyone to pretend there is no disease so that your dear leader can pretend he and his party haven't failed massively and created the worst disaster in American history that will take years to recover from and has now altered America probably forever.

WOW !!!!! So much stupid with this I'm not even going to reply. Next time think before you type.
 

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They are going to play a season because testing and treatment will be better for the team's than it would be if these kids were home. The conferences that are playing understand the risk is the same if you play or not. I have gone to work every day during this virus and I am at risk but does that mean going to Wal-Mart is more dangerous?

These conferences who shut it down thought they would be praised and instead were kinda laughed at. Now they realize that and probably want to reverse the decision but will not because it would make them appear weak.

This is a serious issue and this virus can really be bad news for some if not treated properly. It's fine to take precautions and everyone should.

The people losing their minds over it are the same one's shaming people on Facebook, wearing their mask in Wal-Mart, touching the same stuff dozens of other people have touched. Rolling up in a minivan with the family of 6 going to the grocery store is not smart even if everyone has a mask, it defeats the purpose.