BIGGEST FBS MARKETS: 25 Largest Metro Areas (50 miles) in FBS

Oct 19, 2010
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Long Island? 50 miles is rather arbitrary. Make it 120, or under a 2 hour drive, and things would change.

50 miles is totally arbitrary. The maps could have been as easily made with average travel times to campus/stadium rather than distance.
 

Joey Bags

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The NYC area is watching Penn State, Michigan, Ohio State, and Notre Dame. It’s not an RU market unless we’re 9-0.
 
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PSAL_Hoops

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The NYC area is watching Penn State, Michigan, Ohio State, and Notre Dame. It’s not an RU market unless we’re 9-0.
ND yes. Nobody without ties to NY is rooting randomly for OSU or PSU. Rutgers is truly a regional tri-state. In fairness, Army meets this criteria too.
 
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brgRC90

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It's not really at all applicable. Teams like Ohio State and Alabama dominate their entire states. OSU is hardly playing for just the Columbus metro area. Similarly, Rutgers can't lay claim to Long Island, Westchester or NYC. Rutgers market is New Jersey. Army is national, not regional. New York probably has the same rate of Army fans as Kansas or Maine.
 
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It's not really at all applicable. Teams like Ohio State and Alabama dominate their entire states. OSU is hardly playing for just the Columbus metro area. Similarly, Rutgers can't lay claim to Long Island, Westchester or NYC. Rutgers market is New Jersey. Army is national, not regional. New York probably has the same rate of Army fans as Kansas or Maine.
I don't think it had anything to do with fans. It's about the population within a specific footprint, which is crazy considering Army is further from NYC than Rutgers.
 
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brgRC90

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I don't think it had anything to do with fans. It's about the population within a specific footprint, which is crazy considering Army is further from NYC than Rutgers.
But that's pointless and Army is a perfect example. What does it matter that the USMA is close to the largest population cluster in the US? Their fans are sprinkled across the map. And if you went by radius Rutgers' area would include parts of Pennsylvania, which is in no way relevant. There are 3 RU fans west of the Delaware and they post on this board.
 

mdk02

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I don't think it had anything to do with fans. It's about the population within a specific footprint, which is crazy considering Army is further from NYC than Rutgers.

Not from Manhattan. Staten Island maybe.
 
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Not from Manhattan. Staten Island maybe.
West Point, NY to the Bronx: 37 miles in a straight line. The driving distance is 50 miles.
West Point, NY to Manhattan: 47 miles in a straight line. The driving distance is 58 miles.

New Brunswick to Staten Island: 17 miles in a straight line. The driving distance is 20 miles.
New Brunswick to Manhattan: 28 miles in a straight line. The driving distance is 36 miles.

But that's pointless and Army is a perfect example. What does it matter that the USMA is close to the largest population cluster in the US? Their fans are sprinkled across the map. And if you went by radius Rutgers' area would include parts of Pennsylvania, which is in no way relevant. There are 3 RU fans west of the Delaware and they post on this board.
The post never addresses fans. It's all centered around the population of said metro area. Direct quote from Twitter:

"BIGGEST FBS MARKETS: 25 Largest Metro Areas (50 miles) in FBS

There are infinite ways to measure "markets," but metro area population is one interesting and good one."
 

oldtimer67

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Am I missing something or are there no SEC teams on that list? Probably a good comment on the worth of that demo. Also, if considering B1G expansion from the PAC12, that list might be informative.
 

mikeinsec127

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It's complete crap. Rutgers is less than 50 miles from the Philly border. So it should get credit for both MDAs. That being said, I agree that there is a difference from having a presence and dominating a market.
 

RUforlife

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Hey, if we are really being honest Philly is Penn State territory, Temple is not even a close second.
 

RU848789

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My guess is more of the five boroughs resides within a 50 mile radius of West Point than New Brunswick.
Why guess? A simple look at a map shows NB is closer to most of NYC than WP is. NB and WP are equidistant to about a mile or so north of the GWB/95 as it crosses the southern Bronx, meaning WP is only closer to the Bronx, with NB being closer to every other borough (and ~11 miles closer to the center of Central Park, which is the heart of Manhattan/NYC).
 
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brgRC90

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Am I missing something or are there no SEC teams on that list? Probably a good comment on the worth of that demo. Also, if considering B1G expansion from the PAC12, that list might be informative.
Because it's stupidly done. Georgia no doubt only includes a radius around Athens. Raise your hand if you think the entire stare of Georgia isn't Bulldogs territory.
 
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My guess is more of the five boroughs resides within a 50 mile radius of West Point than New Brunswick.
West Point, NY to the Bronx: 37 miles in a straight line distance. The driving distance is 50 miles.
West Point, NY to Manhattan: 47 miles in a straight line distance. The driving distance is 58 miles.

New Brunswick to Staten Island: 17 miles in a straight line distance. The driving distance is 20 miles.
New Brunswick to Manhattan: 28 miles in a straight line distance. The driving distance is 36 miles.
 

RAM69

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Hey, if we are really being honest Philly is Penn State territory, Temple is not even a close second.
Not according to the TV ratings. Temple vs. Notre Dame is by far the most viewed regular season game in Philadelphia history (and there were three Primetime Penn State vs. Notre Dame games on since 1986). So the X factor was Temple not ND or PSU. Also note below that the Temple-ND game of 2015 clobbered the Penn State vs. Ohio State game just a year prior in the same Philadelphia market.