Biggest Problem I saw last night.

[MOhusker12]

We let a run oriented team stay in the game because of two plays in the first half. For the most part we dominated in the first half (over 300 yards of offense against a great defense). The pick six was off a deflection and we gave up one long run for a touchdown, take away those two plays and get a few obvious pass interference calls (how those were not called is beyond me) and we may be up 14+ at the half.

Our early defensive success became our downfall in the fourth quarter because we failed to adjust our front by staying in the 3-4. Even when we blitzed Wisconsin was able to pick up the blitz because a power scheme is designed to pick up linebackers looking for runthroughs. If you watch the film you can see that by blitzing the running backs for Wisconsin immediately reached 2nd and 3rd levels. We never forced them into passing situations and they controlled the clock and won the game.

I am not saying Riley needs to be fired or that he needs to stay, but I do believe we are alot closer to winning the west than some people realize. There is no doubt that Wisconsin right now is the team to beat in the west and the last three years we have played them much tougher than we did in the years under Pelini. We return most of our starters next year, so regardless of who is coaching this team has a opportunity to be pretty good.

 

[TwinsRRUs_rivals79748]

We may not be that far out of the West but I bet a lot of people think that Ohio state will beat us by 40 points next week. And they probably will.

We have got to get up to that next level of play if we actually want to win the West instead of just being close to winning it and more.

 

[supersport24]

We let a run oriented team stay in the game because of two plays in the first half. For the most part we dominated in the first half (over 300 yards of offense against a great defense). The pick six was off a deflection and we gave up one long run for a touchdown, take away those two plays and get a few obvious pass interference calls (how those were not called is beyond me) and we may be up 14+ at the half.

Our early defensive success became our downfall in the fourth quarter because we failed to adjust our front by staying in the 3-4. Even when we blitzed Wisconsin was able to pick up the blitz because a power scheme is designed to pick up linebackers looking for runthroughs. If you watch the film you can see that by blitzing the running backs for Wisconsin immediately reached 2nd and 3rd levels. We never forced them into passing situations and they controlled the clock and won the game.

I am not saying Riley needs to be fired or that he needs to stay, but I do believe we are alot closer to winning the west than some people realize. There is no doubt that Wisconsin right now is the team to beat in the west and the last three years we have played them much tougher than we did in the years under Pelini. We return most of our starters next year, so regardless of who is coaching this team has a opportunity to be pretty good.

We won't beat them next year with Riley as head coach either.

 

[MOhusker12]

We may not be that far out of the West but I bet a lot of people think that Ohio state will beat us by 40 points next week. And they probably will.

We have got to get up to that next level of play if we actually want to win the West instead of just being close to winning it and more.

I agree with what you said, right now I think it is just as much mental as it is physical, we just seem to have a hard time coming back from the bad things that happen sometimes.

 

[LBremser_rivals78367]

"we are a lot closer to winning the west than some people realize."

The list of problems with this team is long and ugly. We will finish at or near the bottom of the West and, without a miracle cure, same thing for next season. I appreciate the optimism, but there is no point in trying to sugar-coat the situation that this team is in.

 

[MOhusker12]

"we are a lot closer to winning the west than some people realize."

The list of problems with this team is long and ugly. We will finish at or near the bottom of the West and, without a miracle cure, same thing for next season. I appreciate the optimism, but there is no point in trying to sugar-coat the situation that this team is in.

Not trying to sugar coat anything just pointing out that the last three years we have played the best team in the west fairly close (and I understand that close is not where anyone wants to be). This team just seems like it can't get over the hump. The mental side of the game is beating us more than the physical side in my opinion. But this team has talent and returns alot of the talent next year.

 

[SoFL Husker]

We let a run oriented team stay in the game because of two plays in the first half. For the most part we dominated in the first half (over 300 yards of offense against a great defense). The pick six was off a deflection and we gave up one long run for a touchdown, take away those two plays and get a few obvious pass interference calls (how those were not called is beyond me) and we may be up 14+ at the half.

Our early defensive success became our downfall in the fourth quarter because we failed to adjust our front by staying in the 3-4. Even when we blitzed Wisconsin was able to pick up the blitz because a power scheme is designed to pick up linebackers looking for runthroughs. If you watch the film you can see that by blitzing the running backs for Wisconsin immediately reached 2nd and 3rd levels. We never forced them into passing situations and they controlled the clock and won the game.

I am not saying Riley needs to be fired or that he needs to stay, but I do believe we are alot closer to winning the west than some people realize. There is no doubt that Wisconsin right now is the team to beat in the west and the last three years we have played them much tougher than we did in the years under Pelini. We return most of our starters next year, so regardless of who is coaching this team has a opportunity to be pretty good.

We needed to get out to the 10-0 lead, not the other way around.

Pick 6's, missed FG, mistakes. Lack of passion, poor tackling, pro-style scheme can't put points on the board.

 

[MOhusker12]

We needed to get out to the 10-0 lead, not the other way around.

Pick 6's, missed FG, mistakes. Lack of passion, poor tackling, pro-style scheme can't put points on the board.

I don't believe the scheme is the problem, it is the execution of the scheme that is the problem. If the first half we executed the scheme for over 300 yards. If we did that for two halfs and accumulated 650+ yards against Wisconsin people would be happy as hell. The problem is that we did not execute the scheme in the second half.

 

[Mr.Scary13]

We needed to get out to the 10-0 lead, not the other way around.

Pick 6's, missed FG, mistakes. Lack of passion, poor tackling, pro-style scheme can't put points on the board.

Did the scheme drop two passes in the end zone?

 

[SoFL Husker]

Did the scheme drop two passes in the end zone?

It's a product of the scheme. Dropped passes. Too many things can go wrong unless you have Bama talent and we will never have Bama talent.

https://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/teams/nnd/news/

 

[barney44]

We are weak! We're soft, and that fancy offense doesn't work here because we'll never get the players needed for it to be effective. They nailed our coffin shut last night doing what we once did best, their style battered our defense and we eventually gave in. We weren't going to match that with this crap *** offensive system we run these days.

 

[barney44]

Did the scheme drop two passes in the end zone?

No, the scheme threw it on 3rd and 2 (I'm sorry, was it 3rd and 4 Danny?) in the red zone and spotted them a free TD.

 

[dinglefritz]

The biggest problem we had without question is that we could not consistently stop Wisonsin's run game. Wisconsin "Nebraska-ed" us that 4th quarter. They beat on us and beat on us until we succumbed. Our linebackers in particular over ran plays, they got caught in bad run fits and both our linebackers and DBs had trouble tackling Taylor. Our offense minus Morgan's giveaway probably played well enough to win IF we had been able to get some stops in that second half. Certainly Lee played well enough for us to win.

 

[barney44]

It's a product of the scheme. Dropped passes. Too many things can go wrong unless you have Bama talent and we will never have Bama talent.

https://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/teams/nnd/news/

This is the problem, we're never going to get or compete against the south and west for the players needed for this garbage style offensive system.

 

[bshirt73]

Fluff-ball simply doesn't work at NU. Being in the smash-mouth Big10 doesn't help either.

Clownahan & MR.....will we ever learn?

 

[Mr.Scary13]

It's a product of the scheme. Dropped passes. Too many things can go wrong unless you have Bama talent and we will never have Bama talent.

https://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/teams/nnd/news/

So you're solution is to run the ball with inferior talent. Lol.....

 

[dinglefritz]

No, the scheme threw it on 3rd and 2 (I'm sorry, was it 3rd and 4 Danny?) in the red zone and spotted them a free TD.

IF he gets his head around and makes the catch it was a first down. Do you think we get a first down running it on that play? I don't but I understand your point.

 

[SoFL Husker]

No, the scheme threw it on 3rd and 2 (I'm sorry, was it 3rd and 4 Danny?) in the red zone and spotted them a free TD.

By the way, guess who has the #1 ranked offensive team in CFB (points scored)???

#sfnevergoodenough #pro-stylegonnapro-style

http://www.oddsshark.com/ncaaf/offensive-stats

 

[SoFL Husker]

So you're solution is to run the ball with inferior talent. Lol.....

My solution is to give up on the entire process. Riley needs to go

 

[Mr.Scary13]

Fluff-ball simply doesn't work at NU. Being in the smash-mouth Big10 doesn't help either.

Clownahan & MR.....will we ever learn?

Don't forget the green midget or 408. There's a ton to ne learned at Nebraska

 

[barney44]

So you're solution is to run the ball with inferior talent. Lol.....

Talent, talent, talent....

Riley wouldn't win the west with Ohio States talent..

 

[MOhusker12]

It's a product of the scheme. Dropped passes. Too many things can go wrong unless you have Bama talent and we will never have Bama talent.

https://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/teams/nnd/news/

So by your assessment the invention of the forward pass is the reason for why we dropped passes last night. If the dropped passes were a product of the scheme. Then Navy, Air Force, Army and Ga Tech should be the four teams fighting for the four playoff spots, since they pass very little thus their scheme is better than anyone else. Even Urban Meyer realized after being shut out against Clemson last year that they needed to get better at throwing the football.

Regardless of what you think about Mike Riley the actual scheme is not the problem, teams are successful running the ball, throwing the ball or doing both at all levels. Interior line play is what makes the difference and Wisconsin is the best team in the west right now. Bama is great for the same reason.

 

[bshirt73]

So you're solution is to run the ball with inferior talent. Lol.....

Anything is better than to keep losing endlessly with fluff-ball. Maybe you want Clownahan to return?

 

[dinglefritz]

Anything is better than to keep losing endlessly with fluff-ball. Maybe you want Clownahan to return?

Did Pelini run "fluff ball"? At least we were in the game with Wisconsin the last 2 years. IF our D could have stopped their run game, we would have won that game. Couldn't do it.

 

[chicolby]

FYI UCF passed for 374 yards and ran for 141.

Not saying he doesn't value the run but don't fool yourself into thinking he doesn't have a passing game.

Related, I wonder if someone could do quick research when Nebraska faces 3 and 4 or less to see how often Langsdorf passes on those downs.

It's gotta be way over 50%. In essence, he's turning these 3 and shorts into 3 and 7 because nearly every route is 7+ yards.

 

[MOhusker12]

By the way, guess who has the #1 ranked offensive team in CFB (points scored)???

#sfnevergoodenough #pro-stylegonnapro-style

http://www.oddsshark.com/ncaaf/offensive-stats

That can't be right it says that UCF throws for 311 yards per game. People need to not worry about the scheme, they need to worry about the execution of the scheme. Any offense works when it is executed right.

 

[Mr.Scary13]

IF he gets his head around and makes the catch it was a first down. Do you think we get a first down running it on that play? I don't but I understand your point.

Of course. If Nebraska would just figure all they have to do is run it every single time they'd never lose again.

 

[bshirt73]

Did Pelini run "fluff ball"? At least we were in the game with Wisconsin the last 2 years. IF our D could have stopped their run game, we would have won that game. Couldn't do it.

No, Bo was neither fluff-ball or smash mouth. A "tweener" I suppose.

IF, if, if......but always "Couldn't do it". Something has to change my friend.

 

[MOhusker12]

Of course. If Nebraska would just figure all they have to do is run it every single time they'd never lose again.

Yep, most coaches love having 11 guys in the box, they can just block 10 of them and option the 11th guy and score every time.

 

[RedSea_rivals91325]

Top teams have the resources to overcome the bad bounce.

 

[bshirt73]

Of course. If Nebraska would just figure all they have to do is run it every single time they'd never lose again.

Well, as always, we were throwing the ball all over the place. Maybe we'll never win again.

 

[little a]

We are weak! We're soft, and that fancy offense doesn't work here because we'll never get the players needed for it to be effective. They nailed our coffin shut last night doing what we once did best, their style battered our defense and we eventually gave in. We weren't going to match that with this crap *** offensive system we run these days.

Cmon, everyone has to admit after watching Wisconsin's offense DO WORK the inner voice said "that's how we SHOULD play offense".

 

[MOhusker12]

Well, as always, we were throwing the ball all over the place. Maybe we'll never win again.

I remember the interview after the national championship game last year when Saban was pissed because Clemson threw the forward pass on the last play of the game, he said that Clemson should have run the ball because Bama would have stopped the run thus winning the national title.

 

[dinglefritz]

Cmon, everyone has to admit after watching Wisconsin's offense DO WORK the inner voice said "that's how we SHOULD play offense".

Absolutely. Do we have the O line yet that they do? I don't think so and we're at least a year away from maybe being able to move people around like that. Our linebackers aren't there yet in being able to stop that kind of attack either. Someday? I think so. People should realize that Wisconsin runs basically a VERY similar offense to what we run. The biggest difference is their offensive line.

 

[MOhusker12]

Cmon, everyone has to admit after watching Wisconsin's offense DO WORK the inner voice said "that's how we SHOULD play offense".

The biggest difference between us and Wisconsin is that they have an identity that they have used since Alvarez, even with the coaching changes they have basically kept the same offense because of Alvarez. My guess why Anderson left is because he felt that having a great running game gets you only so far. If you remember in the conference championship game his last year against OSU, they could not run the ball at all. If it works it is great, but if you can't pass you will eventually get beat by teams that can stop the run.

Even last night we kept them in check minus the one long run, until we got wore out in the 4th quarter. Depth on the o-line and d-line was a major concern when Riley got hired, we are just now getting a little depth, but not enough to play four quarters of football with Wisky.

 

[Redscarlet]

Absolutely. Do we have the O line yet that they do? I don't think so and we're at least a year away from maybe being able to move people around like that. Our linebackers aren't there yet in being able to stop that kind of attack either. Someday? I think so. People should realize that Wisconsin runs basically a VERY similar offense to what we run. The biggest difference is their offensive line.

And a offensive coordinator doesn't look at his play sheet to make sure he's running as many pass plays as running plays.

 

[SoFL Husker]

That can't be right it says that UCF throws for 311 yards per game. People need to not worry about the scheme, they need to worry about the execution of the scheme. Any offense works when it is executed right.

Exactly, and Scott relies on getting the ball to his athletes in space or creating match-up problems in the passing game, with spread concepts and a mobile QB.

We drop back with a statue and need everything possible to go right in order to be effective.

It won't work. Frost has a more progressive, competent offensive philosophy for CFB success.

If you want to be Wisconsin, need much more OL development and even better RB, great TE, and capable receivers. Personally, I don't like the pro-style scheme, but it works for Wisconsin, because they have this identity. We have no identity.

 

[MOhusker12]

Absolutely. Do we have the O line yet that they do? I don't think so and we're at least a year away from maybe being able to move people around like that. Our linebackers aren't there yet in being able to stop that kind of attack either. Someday? I think so. People should realize that Wisconsin runs basically a VERY similar offense to what we run. The biggest difference is their offensive line.

Bingo, Riley and Chryst worked together for many years, we have better talent at the wide receiver position thus we throw it more and their qb is a game manager. If someone stops their run game for four quarters, they will not be able to throw to win in my opinion.

 

[CDMXHusker]

Not trying to sugar coat anything just pointing out that the last three years we have played the best team in the west fairly close (and I understand that close is not where anyone wants to be). This team just seems like it can't get over the hump. The mental side of the game is beating us more than the physical side in my opinion. But this team has talent and returns alot of the talent next year.

How so? Wisconsin completely manhandled NU in the 2nd half. Riley doesn't know how to put a physical team on the field.

 

[dinglefritz]

And a offensive coordinator doesn't look at his play sheet to make sure he's running as many pass plays as running plays.

When you're averaging 10 ypc and getting 2nd and 2s or first downs on every play, play calling gets pretty damned easy. I watched Wisconsin run the same damned run play twice in a row for over 8 yards both times . I suspect they ran that same play more than those 2 times. IF we continue to develop our young O linemen maybe play calling will get that easy for us.