Bo Bounds: 5 wins or bust
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Pretty obvious a few of you douches probably work in the AD, which doesn’t mean shlt. What should be done, and what will be done, are two totally different things.
I disagree. I think that we'd be fine. Why do you think a portion of the fans still call for Mullen.
Right and no more assistants in football for a bit. Hire a g5 that's winning, bring his best players and let him hit the portal for the rest
But now you have a much lower floor that you can build on and get a 'better' job.
Realistically, some but not many. Especially the up and comers that are performing at a high level.
Coaching turnover is so high, a hot G5 HC will have a few P4 offers in any given year.
The difference is Clark Lea finally realized what I’ve been saying about thinking outside the box and gorilla warefare ect, and went and hired Tim Beck to be his offensive coordinator and gave him full reign.
Do you think Clark Lea is going to turn Vanderbilt into a consistent winner? That was probably his Croom-2007 season.
Short of going winless or a scandal, there's no consideration. We couldn't even get interest in our job this last hiring cycle and we aren't suddenly going to pay $10MM to hire a legitimate coach. I can't see some G5 coach or another assistant coach coming in and being any better really. Welcome to the realty of being a State fan. It's considered one of the most difficult jobs in P4. Cohen and Keenum screwed us over so bad when we refused to hire Sark....
I do not believe the offense will be the problem. If that is the case, Lebby will not be on the hot seat this year or even next year but:
This year is Hutzler’s and his defensive staff that have their jobs on the line. State hired a couple guys that could step in at any point this off season that are on staff, so it could happen midseason.
Lebby’s next hire for DC would be where he lands on the hot seat if Hutzler & Co get canned. State will find the money for him to hire an elite DC OR THATS OUR FAULT!
That is what I expect to happen.
This year is Hutzler’s and his defensive staff that have their jobs on the line. State hired a couple guys that could step in at any point this off season that are on staff, so it could happen midseason.
Lebby’s next hire for DC would be where he lands on the hot seat if Hutzler & Co get canned. State will find the money for him to hire an elite DC OR THATS OUR FAULT!
That is what I expect to happen.
You're so familiar with being a moron, I take that as a compliment. I know more of the same won't work. You need a proven P4 guy period.
Sad, but true. College football has always been about the rich, even more so now. You can forget about teams like Mississippi State breaking the ceiling.
Lebby’s offensive output is fools gold as pointed out last year. All its stats were during garbage time being down two or more scores. Not to mention a huge problem schematically speaking is that he wants to go fast. All that does is give the other team more possessions. Dumb. Dumb strategy here at Mississippi State.
Exactly.
I like our QB & RB. Very concerned about OL. And WR should be ok at best. Definitely a downgrade from last year.
It ain’t happening until the schedule turns over, whatever that will look like. Just ride or die with Lenny for the next couple of years at least.
I believe you are wrong for many reasons but I admit the OL scares me with so many additions in the spring portal. Proof will be I the results but if that offense is productive then Lebby would be safe as he should be.
Hutzler, on the other hand, is not safe as that defense sucked last year and his recruiting sucks especially on DL but we got enough in the portal to give him a chance to prove himself. HUTZ is firmly on the hot seat.
Remember the only QB ON THE roster last year with any experience got hurt very early.
If I was Lebby I would have canned Turner last year and brought in a DL coach that can recruit. Our biggest problem is the DL. You can Not win in the SEC without good line play. And bragging about a guy you got from Northern Illinois just ain't cutting it. No way he is gonna cause havoc in the big leagues. Probly not the guy from CC either. I hope I'm wrong but that a big step up
Well Peterson and the smart boosters we have brought back Turner to complete that fabulous “all Mississippi coaching staff” in 23 . Worked out real well*. Firing Mason Miller after our O line graded out #2 in the sec after 2022 was real 17ing smart too.
The only reason Lebby will have a long leash is because we made the decision to care about baseball more.
If the Lebby buyout is 14.3 million he will be here for a while.
Bo gives more commentary on his weekend eating and drinking, and incessantly plugging sponsors than sports talk, I quit listening to him.
In our current situation yes there is. 1. We had no talent when he took over 2. We have many new coaches lacking street cred, so recruiting is going to slowly get better. They need to win more games this year to build credibility. If he does go 3-9, 2-10, you have to think about firing him. He could be in over his head, we should have a good idea in November if this staff will make it here.
I agree—when head coaches are earning the kind of money they do today, the timeline for success has to be much shorter. You wouldn’t hire a new CEO and continue losing money unless there’s a clear path to profitability. Unless he can demonstrate a clear path back to respectability, I’d imagine / hope this is likely his last chance.
I have like 40 years of data that says that's untrue. Since I've been a fan (starting in the 80s) we've hired zero G5 coaches, 1 out-of-work power coach (Sherrill), an NFL assistant (Croom), a college assistant (Felker), three offensive coordinators (Mullen, Moorhead, Lebby) and a unicorn (Leach).
Well he doesn't talk about sports 15 hours a week. Its closer to 15 minutes. I listened to him again a couple of weeks ago because 106.3 was too staticky that day. They didn't mention sports a single time for the 35 minutes it takes me to get to work, unless you count how much his sidekick scores with women as a sport, because that was the subject the ENTIRE 35 minutes except for commercials. I actually stayed on the channel to see if they mentioned sports during my entire drive in to work.
And he's done nothing to improve the roster in 2 years now. When the total roster talent rankings come out, we'll still be 15th in the SEC, and much closer to 16 than to 14. We may have even fewer 4* players on the roster this fall than we did last fall.
The sheep's talking points regarding Heavy Lebby are eerily similar to the Croominator ones.
Thank you for listening. Can't go 0-16 in league play and keep your job, obviously. It's not even a debate. Of course, MSU could hire a good coach.
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Having cohesion just for the sake of having cohesion doesn't make any sense if the coaches are awful. You're just delaying the inevitable. If he goes winless in the SEC again this year and we don't fire him we are not serious at all.
Brilliant analysis, Bo. Good luck hiring a good coach after firing 3 out of your last 4 coaches after two years or less. We may have to do that regardless, but don't be shocked if it's slim pickings.
I'm not too worried about what happened decades ago before the modern landscape of college football, but I'm very confident that we could have poached >90% of G5 head coaches instead of hiring Moorhead, Leach, Arnett, or Lebby if we had wanted to go that route.
It's going to be the same type pickings it was the last 2 times we were told it would be slim pickings if we fired a coach too early. An up and coming P4 coordinator, a P4 head coach that has some sort of baggage, or a G5 head coach. This idea that firing a coach for going winless in the SEC for 2 straight years is going to set back the program is asinine. I think he's going to win 5 or 6 games this year and this will be moot, but if he goes winless in the SEC again he should not be here next year. That is unacceptable. I'm also not the one who has to pay for him to leave if he goes winless and if people don't want to pay for that then I won't judge them for it, but he 100 % would be deserving of getting fired.