He's getting a 3rd year barring some sort of controversy or a complete melt down like 2-10.
We're near the top of the SEC in buyouts being paid and we've got the smallest budget and mediocre NIL. We had no P4 interest last time and really, there aren't any P4 guys with baggage we would be willing to pay a high price for. We need a situation like with baseball where the timing was perfect. We may have to wait for that..
If we don't give him at least three years the next hire will make Rick Ray look like John Wooden. You have to give a coach a legitimate chance at a program like MSU football. We used up a lot of credit of that kind by firing Arnett after one year. We absolutely can't do the quick trigger thing again.
That's just absolutely not true. You only have to look at previous coaching searches we have done. We have repeatedly been turned down by those type of people.
I don't believe there was a single example of us offering to triple (or more) a G5 head coach's salary and give him an SEC job, only to have him turn us down at any point in the last decade.
I actually did research on this… Counting four stars is irrelevant but thought it was interesting…
If Lebby's buyout is $14.3 million than someone needs their *** kicked.
We don't have a mediocre NIL (well that depends on what your definition of that really means but it's not bad and our expectations more than match what we can pay for NIL wise). We never have P4 interest without someone that has baggage (IE Jackie or Leach) which was my point, but if there is someone like that out there they would be on our radar. We need to move on as fast as we figure out the person in charge isn't a good coach, whenever that is. That is what is best for the program. If you don't know that a guy can't coach after 2 straight winless seasons in the SEC, then you don't need to be in charge of the AD (speaking on Selmon). Hopefully we don't have to find out, and I don't think we are going to be as bad as some do.
That's honestly not a bad idea for a school like us. No one cares about morality any more anyway so you might as well try to win and if they go crazy then just fire them for cause like you said. It won't be worse than this crap we are in now.
For what its worth, I think we should have hired Rich Rodriguez when Leach died.
The Arnett thing was a special situation and everyone in the industry knows that. Now if you fire Lebby after 2 years after semi-recently firing Moorhead after 2 years then your job gets a stigma
The only stigma our program has is that we've mostly sucked since Mullen left.
As you pointed out....out of our last three coaches one died. The other two were fired after 1 and 2 years. We can't do that again.
Croom, Moorhead, Lemonis - for all 3, people said it would be a bad look to fire them and it would be hard to find a replacement, but then we were able to make a much better hire.
If he goes 0-8, it won’t look nearly as bad to fire him as it would to bring him back.
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There’s 2 or 3 we might have a chance to win. But right now, I think we’re 10+ point underdogs in every SEC game.
MSU fans have always been way too concerned with how they look in the eyes of others.
We don’t play Auburn… your takes are the worse
It’s ridiculous how paranoid so many of our fans are. As if anyone gives a sh*t about what we do (they don’t). Auburn didn’t care how it would look when they fired Chizek 2 years after he won a national championship. They one’s he wasn’t getting the job done those 2 years so they did what needed to be done. It’s a ruthless business if you want to win.
We gave Croom FIVE years. That's comparing apples to oranges.
Vegas over/under is 3.5 wins. I think I’m taking the over. Barely. And that will probably be enough to keep Lebby another year.
We didn’t approach Fritz at all. We had conversations with reps from Chadwell early on but some items came up that we passed on. Sumrall wanted a zero buyout clause if UK came open.
Fair enough. That’s not exactly the “crawling on broken glass” narrative we always hear when talking about moving on from a coach.
